Vaccine

Brav520 said:
Bottom line there is a portion of society that will never ever ever take the vaccine for whatever reason.
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That's me. Also, I respect those who take the jabs and the boosters for whatever their reasons. I'm sorry if I said some meme jokes here and there. I also took on some tough and heart wrenching topics on here over the years. I won;t hash out da past because da past is da past. I look to greener pasture out in the new frontiers of life.
 
WOW! Decided to catch up on this thread and feel like with the last two pages I have stumbled upon a crime scene - a group of you have completely murdered @dad4

I have always respected him for his intelligence, just not his wisdom. Incredibly, you guys have driven him to performing circle-jerks and reach-a-rounds with the forums village idiots. And then, your collective onslaught left him broken and speechless, as he scurried to the door calling it a day with his dick in his hand and his thumb in his mouth.

There is nothing to add to the brilliance of what you all said except - Bravo, Well Done!
 
watfly said:
That's one of the cool parts about youth soccer for me, hanging with parents from a variety of backgrounds, ethnicities, beliefs etc.
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Definitely. I brought this up before but I'll repeat it. Unfortunately, my daughter's first soccer team was much more socio-economically diverse than it has been in the last few years of our experience. It's still racially diverse but we don't represent our area's neighborhoods as well as it did early on. That's unfortunate.
 
dad4 said:
I spent a while trying to politely explain that 700,000 people dead from covid was both bad and unnecessary. That doesn’t work.
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Opioid epidemic and crisis rages on & kills more 700k in 2020 yet that's barely discussed.

Tragedy yes the # of covid fatalities but likely peaked in the USA why opioids will do more damage this year.

How about some ideas or attention to other heath issues like cancer, heart disease, diabetes that are causing more people problems.

COVID-19 is just one of many things like the flu that risks could be minimized with medicines. Vaccines are one approach or a combination of them or with antivirals.
www.wsj.com

Merck Asks FDA to Authorize Promising Covid-19 Pill

The filing comes shortly after data from a late-stage study showed that the antiviral drug, molnupiravir, cut the risk of hospitalization or death by about 50% in high-risk people with mild to moderate Covid-19.
www.wsj.com www.wsj.com

Need to get on with life, manage covid but lets not go overboard with it and concentrate on the other things that are longer term problems like mentioned.
 
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...wish it were as easy as accepting or declining...but the toxic influence of political money, big tech, and media make it a bit more calculated and exploitative by Pols.

...we're probably singing from the same general hymnal, just different tunes.
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Yes, I don't mean to imply that accepting or declining was the solution, just that without it we guarantee division. There's no hope of anything else.

The topic of power in the hands of a few has been discussed. My desire to avoid this is why I don't support vaccine mandates even though I am vaccinated and advocate for the vaccine. I believe forcing individuals into actions they don't want to perform should be reserved for more extreme situations than where we are now with Covid. There is a price to pay in terms of trust and "buy-in" when forcing actions on individuals.
 
Desert Hound said:
This kind of says a lot about your mindset. As in thinking that somehow that number would have been a lot less somehow.

We were never going to be your preferred Australia or NZ solution.

We were never going to shut down biz and schools for over a year.

And yet you keep pretending those deaths would somehow be avoidable.
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140,000 deaths prevented from covid vaccines was the claim I read today but I think that's old numbers.

Vaccines prevented up to 140,000 COVID-19 deaths in U.S.

A study estimated that COVID-19 vaccinations prevented nearly 140,000 deaths in the U.S. by May 2021.
www.nih.gov www.nih.gov

Even so to me heath care is personal choice just like diets or what we consume.

We have some of the worse diets and obesity problems the world has seen yet there very little govt mandates for junk food content, amts of sugar, salt, sodium or for healthy eating, natural food, regular exercise for adults, etc.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Definitely. I brought this up before but I'll repeat it. Unfortunately, my daughter's first soccer team was much more socio-economically diverse than it has been in the last few years of our experience. It's still racially diverse but we don't represent our area's neighborhoods as well as it did early on. That's unfortunate.
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That's interesting. We were the opposite. A bunch of Francis Parker kids on my son's first team. Now I would guess 1/3 of our kids are scholarshipped. Ramona, El Cajon, Carlsbad, Chula Vista, Spring Valley, La Jolla, Escondido to name a few, our kids are from all over the County.
 
watfly said:
That's interesting. We were the opposite. A bunch of Francis Parker kids on my son's first team. Now I would guess 1/3 of our kids are scholarshipped. Ramona, El Cajon, Carlsbad, Chula Vista, Spring Valley, La Jolla, Escondido to name a few, our kids are from all over the County.
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My impression is that in our area of Santa Clara County, there are many more Hispanic boys from the various neighborhoods playing high-level soccer than Hispanic girls from those same neighborhoods. I don't have actual numbers to back it up, but that's my impression.
 
met61 said:
Actually, I believe you are the one who has it upside down. Understandable, as you've probably been raised and lived in the bubble of a controlled environment amongst a specific control group. But, having spent most of my adult life in the military surrounded by individuals from every corner of the country, from every race, gender, nationality, economic status, religion, and political party. I can assure you, the psychological humanity and core division you speak of is minimally measurable, if it exists at all. You see, when you look up and down military ranks, you will see noticeable and vast differences...but, you will also find the two main principles they all have in common: 1) The US Flag on their shoulder; 2) The belief the soldier on their right and left will fight and die for them.

A great country needs common principles to bond and rally around. Politicians know the quickest road to power is division within the electorate, using identity politics and pitting individuals differences against each other.

I have never seen my biracial children at their classmates throats because of their white side or brown side...hell, no one in their peer groups even notices it or brings it up. Rather, I have clearly seen politicians and their acolytes in education with grotesque political motives jamming it down their throats.

All politicians use division and fear to generate power, but it is leftist who are leading the way in destroying our national unifying principles and identities.

It only takes a superficial amount of Wisdom and real personal experience to understand this.
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Amen Brother!

The only thing I'd add is most foreigners from my tours around the world love and respect America way more than the lefties and most Dems in this country. Sad but true.
 
lafalafa said:
140,000 deaths prevented from covid vaccines was the claim I read today but I think that's old numbers.

Vaccines prevented up to 140,000 COVID-19 deaths in U.S.

A study estimated that COVID-19 vaccinations prevented nearly 140,000 deaths in the U.S. by May 2021.
www.nih.gov www.nih.gov

Even so to me heath care is personal choice just like diets or what we consume.

We have some of the worse diets and obesity problems the world has seen yet there very little govt mandates for junk food content, amts of sugar, salt, sodium or for healthy eating, natural food, regular exercise for adults, etc.
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We do have some bad diet habits as a nation.

That said I don't want gov mandating diets etc.

The more we have gov intrude, the more they will
 
what-happened said:
This is just weird isn't it? Who are these people you are trying to convince? The people on here who are obviously vaccinated, abiding by whatever mandates are being dished out by their local governments? People on here who've maybe had covid? Don't you find it funny or ironic that everyone on here who happens to post an anti-mask meme is likley wearing a mask when it's required? You live in CA, you know the draconian nature of your elected government and you seem to be a rule follower.

My business partner is in CA as we speak, attending a weekend medical conference. Appears that everyone is following the rules, especially patients. Or maybe you are just upset at the terrible ending to last night's baseball game. The Giants were robbed, at least for that call. I dont' take pride winning like that but do feel the game still would have ended favorably for the dodgers. Just would have taken an extra pitch two. But you never know.

Maybe you should take a roadtrip to the part(s) of the country that aren't living up to your standards and let them know.
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Dad should seriously consider moving to Gallup New Mexico.
 
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Hüsker Dü said:
Trolls a plenty, new trolls, same trolls. Trolls think being louder and more persistent makes them right. Funny how that works.
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You know the debate is lost when the losers of the debate accuse the winners for being trolls. You and dad and the trolls on your side lost. Now go away and be a good sport :)

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So "Team Virus" is:

Pro-Vaccine
Pro-Natural Immunity
Mask Compliant
Pro-Children
Pro-Small Business

And somehow because we question the mandates we're the bad guys, We deserve to be called "dumbfucks", we deserve to be shamed into compliance. Don't think, just silently comply. Seems like a troubling path to me.
 
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