Vaccine

In your zeal to score debate points, you are admitting that you are willing to put people at increased risk of serious sickness or death.

Again, in your usual idiotic fashion, you lack total comprehension: 1) I don't know who is right....Gottlieb or the UK approach...I did post both sides of this debate and I think the Gottlieb position could be right....I just don't know, 2) the UK approach only works if you at least use vaccine mandates for the first dose, 3) the UK position assumes that the risk is always going to be there and you are just delaying the inevitable.

p.s. I never bought the entire EOTL/Husker= espola things. EOTL and Husker are much more clever at trolling than you are. I am open to the idea that Nova.dad is your sock puppet and he is just living out the fantasy that you articulated you wanted to do a few weeks ago. Funny how the 2 of you are around like Clark Kent and Superman.
 

I note this couple followed the pre-vaccine dad4 advice: wear masks, don't go out often....they still got COVID. Particularly if you aren't 100% sure you've had it before, and particularly if you are an adult, absolutely get the vaccine.
 
Again, in your usual idiotic fashion, you lack total comprehension: 1) I don't know who is right....Gottlieb or the UK approach...I did post both sides of this debate and I think the Gottlieb position could be right....I just don't know, 2) the UK approach only works if you at least use vaccine mandates for the first dose, 3) the UK position assumes that the risk is always going to be there and you are just delaying the inevitable.

p.s. I never bought the entire EOTL/Husker= espola things. EOTL and Husker are much more clever at trolling than you are. I am open to the idea that Nova.dad is your sock puppet and he is just living out the fantasy that you articulated you wanted to do a few weeks ago. Funny how the 2 of you are around like Clark Kent and Superman.

I criticized your statement. You responded with a full house of ad hominems.
 
I note this couple followed the pre-vaccine dad4 advice: wear masks, don't go out often....they still got COVID. Particularly if you aren't 100% sure you've had it before, and particularly if you are an adult, absolutely get the vaccine.

I care,
So I wear
A mask,
No need to ask.

Now where did I see that?
 
I care,
So I wear
A mask,
No need to ask.

Now where did I see that?

Again, we go with fool. Like I said, he is not an anti-NPI nut. The fact that HE of all people is laying this out is frankly shocking, even to me. And it would absolutely destroy dad4's world if it's true (which again, I'm not taking a position on whether it is or isn't)
 
Again, we go with fool. Like I said, he is not an anti-NPI nut. The fact that HE of all people is laying this out is frankly shocking, even to me. And it would absolutely destroy dad4's world if it's true (which again, I'm not taking a position on whether it is or isn't)

I watched the video. He doesn't say what you said he did. You have done that more than once when linking his videos. It ends up being your opinion of his opinions of articles. Did you ever play the party game Gossip or Telephone?
 
I watched the video. He doesn't say what you said he did. You have done that more than once when linking his videos. It ends up being your opinion of his opinions of articles. Did you ever play the party game Gossip or Telephone?

Then you didn't understand it, or the implications. Coming from you, not really surprising.

p.s. watch out for the barn!!!

p.p.s. he isn't really taking a position either....but he's summarizing some pretty shocking data and is opining it is optimistic.
 
Then you didn't understand it, or the implications.

I think the implications are related to the efficacy of immunity from natural infection and repeated exposure… via vaccine or otherwise.

What it is not, is a policy recommendation to willfully expose individuals or not use NPI’s, or not promote booster shots.

Espola’s ‘fact check’ gets an passing grade from me… assuming he admits that he fact checked a presumption as to your opinion.
 
Espola’s ‘fact check’ gets an passing grade from me… assuming he admits that he fact checked a presumption as to your opinion.

Ok.. this ‘summary’ does have a fair share of opinion in the interpretation.

So, it is possible that for the non-elderly, non-immunocompromised, which will need boosters perhaps multiple boosters, is that while vaccine immunity is at its highest, the best thing we can do to end this is TO ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE EXPOSED AND/OR INFECTED with the virus. That has enormous implications including: 1) children should not be vaxxed...if the vax doesn't stop disease or even massively reduce hospitalizations, since they don't suffer from the severe form, it's probably better for them, particularly the under 12, to just get repeated exposures to the virus, 2) people while at a high level of immunity from the vaccine would need to risk natural exposure, 3) NPIS such as masks and dining/crowd restrictions are actually counter productive to ending the pandemic and is just prolonging the misery.


While the conclusions in the summary above… are not from the source linked, it is basis for the ‘contra’ argument that was being presented.

Again, I'm not sure who is right at this particular point and am open minded either way
 
Nuremberg Code #7

Proper preparations should be made and adequate facilities provided to protect the experimental subject against even remote possibilities of injury, disability, or death.
 

@ Dad of 4 kids, watch this short video. I bet Father of Lies Espola will watch to fact check if this is a true video. This is from a real doctor. You can;t trust anyone if all they do is lie for political gain. All the kids are pawns and those who have a few questions are being controlled, locked out and kicked out of all that life has to offer and it's pure evil. Science Magicians. No need for a mask at all according to so any, if Dr. F said their is no need for a mask. Bruddah IZ, we need your fact sheets. Keep bringing them bro. Me & Grace and anyone with an honest brain and a heart full of gold can see the truth. Liars only lie. They just talk lie. Lying is it's own language btw. Thank you for showing us the truth IZ. The Father of Lies has been lying and making pawns out of kids. Sickos and Espola is here 24/7 with no kids. Imagine an old man on here with no kids in the game. Why? These men are full of darkness. Their hearts are so hard and their eyes are blind and their ears are clogged with bullshit from the BS in their brain. True losers in every sense. Their time is up. Nowhere to hide. The Light is never going away but the darkness and those who live in darkness will be no more. Can I get a hallelujah and a Amen? They make fun of all that has happen in the war for the last 20 years and just chalk it up as an, "oh well." They mock our soldiers who lost legs. They mock those WHO think for themselves. Their scared little men who face judgement like at no other time. Judgement is coming and it will be swift. The game is over and now you must answer to the One.
 

Two can play this game.


Rev. Jesse Jackson and his wife have been hospitalized after testing positive for Covid-19

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Jackson received his first Covid-19 vaccine dose in January at an event to promote African American confidence in vaccinations, according to a statement at the time from RPC.
Breakthrough infections for those who are vaccinated have been reported.
 
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