Sigh this is the same thing you guys said last summer then winter hit
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Whose spreading the misinformation? It's mostly coming from the "ists" with their mixed messaging. The Misinformation in Chief is Fauci. The media is also guilty because they either are trying to fit a narrative (like politicians) or they simply don't understand what they are reporting.
There seems to be this sentiment that the problem is Johnny Q Redneck is spreading misinformation on social media. Johnny Q Redneck is not the problem, he has no credibility. The biggest problem is the "experts" and the media that have implied credibility.
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Yep. Consent of the governed is indeed a path down which many current events lead.
It's complete BS what I have endured as a Golden Child. I'm sick of this, truly I am. I wake up to blond hair every morning still and I'm 54. I never followed this Q thing until after the election was ripped off. The experts are liars and that is not a good thing, especially of the masses are asking for truth and Justice for all. All I ever wanted was to live with people who care for others and follow the truth. The things these little monsters say about me is really getting on my nerves.
Watch this Evil. It's sad to think both men probably be alive if the lie was not allowed. It makes a point about what has really been going on behind the scenes of the most evil people on earth. This all goes together with their evil plan. Get off the evil train dude before it's too late. Unless of course you like to play with evil.
The biggest thing you got wrong is your continued insistence that masks do not limit spread from an infected person to others.
And you still get it wrong.
Check your Florida numbers, too. They seem to have had an increase, after all.
Soccerfan2
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Politics certainly are a heavy filter. It takes intention to see through it.
Against prime I said help a little. Against delta I said only surgical plus and n95s make an impact. If you want to play “check the numbers”: check the uk the day mask mandates went away, or Iceland or Israel now, or to go to favorite hits Los Angeles in the winter.
EvilGoalie 21
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Sorry, don't click on stuff like that. the other night I decided it was timely to go back and look at this great book the Kite Runner. About a person who lived through true evil and sought to find peace. Here is a quote.
"I wondered if that was how forgiveness budded; not with the fanfare of epiphany, but with pain gathering its things, packing up, and slipping away unannounced in the middle of the night."
Don't forget the many times you have compared the size of the virus to the pitch of the mask fabric.
Dad is losing it big time. You have been so in the middle you piss me off sometimes Grace. I said it before and I will say it again, I think you would have made a good judge or mediator. I know a mediator who makes $8,000 for a days work and some paper work. All satire aside, dad does seem emotional today and using four letter words like EOTL did. It was about two years ago that I allowed the "F: word to come out of my mouth from the pit of my stomach. I held the "F" word in for 31 years. I never cuzzed, ask my kids and my wife. She would never have married me if I swore, I swear to the Lord. I dont swear at people either or if I did by accident it was wrong. It was needed to make my point crystal clear to some evil farts and it worked for what I used it for. I now realize that the "F" word is for all of us to use, just use it carefully and not too much and only to help people see their foolish ways. My Evangelical Religious pals think I'm in sin. We agree to disagree and I will let the Lord sort all the judging and the rewards. That's his job, not mine. I'm only hear to poke people with the truth. Bottom line Grace, Dads numbers look like shit again and his brain is all fucked up
Looking for straws to grasp when there are no more straws to grasp, makes one look like a complete moron!
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Why is The Kite Runner a banned book?
The Kite Runner has been on the American Library Association's top ten lists for most challenged books in 2008 (for offensive language, sexually explicit material, and being unsuited to age group), in 2012 (for depictions of homosexuality, offensive language, religious viewpoints, sexually explicit), in 2014
Is The Kite Runner a true story?
No, The Kite Runner is not a true story.
I get you Evil, I really do. To know Evil is to do Evil, right? I played on both sides when I was younger ((experimenting with dark shit)) and saw the "good vs evil" choice early on. We both get each other.
What about when your elected official makes one set of rules for the population yet lives free of those rules in his/her life?
Feelings in that one?
If you’re going to try to understand epidemiology at that level, take a class in biological dynamical systems.
You keep making the same error misunderstanding the effect of a change to R.
You falsely believe that “a reduction to transmissibility means cases will drop”. Then, when the world fails to match your misunderstanding, you assume that transmissibility must not have been impacted.
You’re way out of your depth here, and you are giving advice which will harm people, if they believe it.
Here’s another little prediction: I think both team panic and team reason are at the edge of their patience with each other. The slow moving collapse of the Biden admin isn’t helping things…while there was the appearance of leadership it’s enough to keep things in check. Barring another unifier like 9/11 or something or a reset such as Biden resigning for health reasons, that check on things is gone now. Things get more ugly here particularly as we head into winter and there are more (particularly school) disruptions (even if just schools disrupted due to exposures). I’m not 100% on board with a bad winter wave but if the info showing the vaccine weakens 8 months out is true (and there does appear to be at least some solid evidence this is the case), we could be in for a bad one…my variable right now is whether the delta burns out and/or is replaced by another variant. The summer southern delta wave from here moves north but don’t know yet how long it will last.Dad is losing it big time. You have been so in the middle you piss me off sometimes Grace. I said it before and I will say it again, I think you would have made a good judge or mediator. I know a mediator who makes $8,000 for a days work and some paper work. All satire aside, dad does seem emotional today and using four letter words like EOTL did. It was about two years ago that I allowed the "F: word to come out of my mouth from the pit of my stomach. I helf the "F" word in for 31 years. I never cuzzed, as my kids and my wife. She would never have married me if I swore. I dont swear at people. It was needed to make my point crystal clear and it worked for what I used it for. I now realize that the "F" word is for all us to use, just use it carefully and not too much and only to help people see their foolish hearts. My Evangelical Religious pals think I'm in sin. We agree to disagree and I will let the Lord sort all the judging and the rewards. That's his job, not mine. I'm only hear to poke people with the truth. Bottom line Grace, Dads numbers look like shit again and his brain is all fucked up
Not really. Politicians who think they are above the rules are dime a dozen in both parties.
I am much more angry at the deliberate incompetence which results in deaths. Cuomo and Levine for restocking the nursing homses with fresh covid patients. DeSantis and Abbott for blocking mask rules in the middle of an outbreak.
Damn right Kicker. That Dad of 4 is getting on my nerves today. "Rules for thee but not for me" is a trigger tagline for me. I knew a minister way back who was not what he said he was. He tried to take me to Blacks Beach when I was young in the faith, I kid you not. I surfed it one time back when i was 13 when I was serious about being a pro surfer with Parsons, Curren and Booth. What I didnt know was it was where some of the fellas would go to get naked and sun bath. Minister asked me if I wanted to meet down at Blacks for a Quiet Time and I said sure. Shall we bring our boards and he said no, just a beautiful place to pray. Anyway, I get down there and all the guys are naked but me. I was so pissed off and even told on the minister. He said he didnt know either ((ya right, dude grew up down there)). It was a hot mess. His girlfriend dumped him. It later came out that indeed he was gay but didnt want to be or something like that. He got really honest with me and I forgave him and told him to be just yourself. I dont know where he is today ((it was 33 years ago to the day I believe)) but wish him nothing but the best.
This is an example of you being lost so thick in the weeds that you can’t realize that what you said makes no sense. If a reduction in transmissibility doesn’t lead to a reduction in cases what’s the point????? I know that’s not what you meant: the problem we are talking about is what is the hypothetical prevention of cases that otherwise would have occurred, for which you have absolutely no data (due to the lack of crt) and so are basically guessing based upon a bunch of other assumptions. It is very clear, though, that the masks dont have a substantial impact or you’d see a substantial change in the directions of the curves when mandates are implemented but when you compare neighboring counties or countries side by side you don’t see this real world impact (which you’ve tried to explain away that it’s because people cross the borders routinely)
you and I agreed that indoor masking helped reduce transmissibility of the prime. We disagreed on magnitude.My number was in the range of a 5-15% reduction in probability of a transmission on a micro basis. You felt it was in the neighborhood of 40% But didn’t articulate the 40% of what (we all assumedit was macro which just belies the real world numbers). Where I agree with Oster and you seem to be anti science is the notion that against the delta cloth masks are useless.
what’s more funny is that you fall back on the same line just subject to criticism: trust the experts
Roadrunner
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I don't think doctors or nurses having actual demonstrated success with how to best try to treat or help people with covid were ignored. The best practices have changed over the pandemic. There were some ideas suggested for possible treatments that didn't pan out.
Universities are not controlled environments any more than large businesses or other institutions. There are productivity expectations, labor issues, budget problems, people problems, just like anywhere. And they are not the ones setting government policies nor school policies. Not being able to control all variables is very different from identifying the involved variables, thinking about how they influence outcomes, and trying to find approaches for both analysis and possible solutions to problems.
I was on a jury where the other juro
How do you pick and choose which "expert" you trust? Do you ask your mechanic for advice on cancer treatment? Look for advice on investments from your wedding planner? Btw, it's news to me that experts in any field are part of a closed society, and everyone who is an expert in their field is similar. Some gross generalization and assumptions here.
Yes. A reduction in R can co-exist with an increase on cases. And an increase to R can co-exist with a drop in cases. Differential equations are like that. I’d explain it, but it requires about two years of graduate level math which you never took.
Either take the classes, or listen to the people who took the classes. Until then, you’re an unqualified person who insists on bad mouthing the people who are qualified.