Bad News Thread

[watfly]

It's an unfortunate aspect of contemporary media that feeds into the mis/disinformation. There is good science reporting, but more and more it is not the stuff that's just going to show up in the feed of your standard media outlet.

Unfortunately most mainstream reporters know very little about the topic they're reporting. They've been trained in journalism (which is debatable) and not the science, medical, financial, legal fields that they're reporting.

In a previous life I was involved in the investigation of financial frauds, some of which were high profile. Never did I see a report or article in regards to a case that didn't have major factual flaws.

 

[crush]

I'm putting together my last stand. Let me know what you guys think of my first paragraph

Too whom it may concern or Dear ___________________ ((fill in the blank for your situation and the assholes your dealing with)),

What is being proposed to me as an American citizen here in California as to mandating the jabs is exactly what our Military Court tried and convicted and hung German Doctors, soldiers, nurses and administrators for in 1945. These mandates, threats of losing job, not being able to buy or sell and orders as they sit today are ILLIGAL. These are exceptionally narrow circumstance and rigorous steps must be undertaken before the President or anyone who thinks they alone can waive anyone's Informed Consent rights. Otherwise, this behavior is characterized as a WAR CRIME, which was first recognized as an International crime because of Nuremberg trials: which became the Nuremberg Code ((law)) and was fully adopted by the USA and DoD in 1957. Informed Consent is a basic Human Right Jackos and is guaranteed by the Constitution and the International Convention signed by most of the countries on this planet, per the attached ((article 7)).

 

[Bruddah IZ]

read the study. that’s not what it’s about.

The study is evaluating whether there is any point in vaccinating someone who has some natural immunity. result was a clear yes.

In addition to the booster shot, mask, and lockdowns. Like I said you people crack me up.

 

[crush]

In addition to the booster shot, mask, and lockdowns. Like I said you people crack me up.

Shots Bruddah, not shot. I hear this is a never ending war on humanity type of war. The last rumor I heard was that their are a few Red Haired Giants in the Kandahar Mountains. My old sales rep Ahmad told me about this Giant of a Legend and he say's it's true 100%. I laughed back then but not now. These giants are like 15-20 feet tall and are protecting all the precious stones, gold and precious metals in Kandahar. The Giants dont give a shit about the heroine. Their hooked on the Gold and have been for some time and were hooked on opium.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

I knew about it from contemporary standard click journalism about Dec last year (Reuters, BBC I think). For the actual report I can't find anything other than the pdf in Swedish (http://www.sou.gov.se/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/SOU_2020_80_Äldreomsorgen-under-pandemin_webb.pdf) which prob not much help. Here is a no paywall retrospective that touches on what I understand to be the main issues that were identified, related to protection for elderly in nursing homes, which bore the brunt of Sweden's first COVID wave (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0020731421994848).

Pretty thin. And of course they had to spend quite a bit of time on the many fallacies that prop up the argument for inequality. I've read better on their nursing/homecare challenges.

 

[EvilGoalie 21]

Pretty thin. And of course they had to spend quite a bit of time on the many fallacies that prop up the argument for inequality. I've read better on their nursing/homecare challenges.

You can have your opinion. I can have my opinion. Whatever. Bottom line. Sweden had a big up front mortality hit, particularly relative to other Scandanavian countries. The government thought the comps were bad and it wasn't such a good look. If there's a segment of the twitterati out there that wants to jump up and down about Sweden being such a great success story....yada, yada, yada, freedom, that's got to be put on the scales as well. And like I said there's is a valid argument for paying the penalty up front. But that doesn't mean there's not a penalty. And just because it happened more than two weeks ago doesn't mean it's not true.

 

[Hüsker Dü]

So what you’re saying is the only thing you’ve been able to find is one very small case study in Kentucky?

This ain’t a job nor a hobby. So are we saying 2.34 times more chance doesn’t mean 2.34 times more as more than double? What am I missing there?

 

[Bruddah IZ]

You can have your opinion. I can have my opinion. Whatever. Bottom line. Sweden had a big up front mortality hit, particularly relative to other Scandinavian countries. The government thought the comps were bad and it wasn't such a good look. If there's a segment of the twitterati out there that wants to jump up and down about Sweden being such a great success story....yada, yada, yada, freedom, that's got to be put on the scales as well. And like I said there's is a valid argument for paying the penalty up front. But that doesn't mean there's not a penalty. And just because it happened more than two weeks ago doesn't mean it's not true.

Morbid facts are hardly a jump up and down event. But YOUR counterfactual thinking is based on what previous event that mandated lockdowns and other denial of due process rights?

 

[N00B]

This ain’t a job nor a hobby. So are we saying 2.34 times more chance doesn’t mean 2.34 times more as more than double? What am I missing there?

Not specific to you… but what is missing is any discussion of time intervals between original/most recent antibody response and date of re-infection.

There is a reason booster shots are advised… vaccination of a prior natural immune response would act very similar to a booster shot in a fully vaccinated individual.

Vaccine + Booster = better than vaccination alone in the next time interval

Natural infection + Vaccine = better than either alone in the next time interval

Natural infection + reinfected = better than just one infection in the next time interval

Now, can both sides stop ignoring the other when it comes to policy?

 

[crush]

Not specific to you… but what is missing is any discussion of time intervals between original/most recent antibody response and date of re-infection.

There is a reason booster shots are advised… vaccination of a prior natural immune response would act very similar to a booster shot in a fully vaccinated individual.

Vaccine + Booster = better than vaccination alone in the next time interval

Natural infection + Vaccine = better than either alone in the next time interval

Natural infection + reinfected = better than just one infection in the next time interval

Now, can both sides stop ignoring the other when it comes to policy?

 

[crush]

REPORT: Biden “Not Sleeping Well,” Says He Wants to Go Home to Delaware to Sleep

 

[espola]

Hong Kong Flu, 1969 --

 

[N00B]

Hong Kong Flu, 1969 --

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[espola]

Nice picture. More interesting story;

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Paywall.

 

[N00B]

Paywall.

Quick fix for the interwebs… copy and paste link to ‘private’ or ‘incognito’.

“50% of the time it works all the time”

 

[crush]

Hong Kong Flu, 1969 --

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No this is not. This is because asshole men walked around farting in the office. Nice try dude......

 

[crush]

Mask for the kids but not for the adults who like to party in tents with no mask and hand out weed......lol. This is so about politics & control. How sad students still must wear masks as OC Board of Education loses court bid vs. Newsom. My dd will wear her mask like a good student.

 

[Desert Hound]

Now are seeing another security theater idea (plastic barriers) don't help.

It Turns Out Those Plastic Barriers Put Up To Stop COVID-19 May Actually Make It Easier To Spread

Plastic barriers that shot up at counters and order windows across America during the COVID-19 pandemic may actually be facilitating the spread of the virus.

dailycaller.com

 

[crush]

Fear Bait is going strong on FOX and Friend CNN. This is insane.

Latest COVID wave surging as hospitals struggle to find beds for all patients

Getting ready to help patient with Covid.

 

[Grace T.]

Our local public high school had to scratch its first game because one kid tested positive for covid. The unvaxxed kids must now quarantine 10 days (no zoom classes available). The vaxxed kids can go back once they had a neg covid test and if no symptoms. All the kids were masked at the time of exposure. This is how the fall semester is likely going to go.

 

[crush]

Our local public high school had to scratch its first game because one kid tested positive for covid. The unvaxxed kids must now quarantine 10 days (no zoom classes available). The vaxxed kids can go back once they had a neg covid test and if no symptoms. All the kids were masked at the time of exposure. This is how the fall semester is likely going to go.

They can;t force a kid to get tested. It's "highly encouraged" to get tested. The wording in everything is so loose it will never hold up. This will go down as the biggest scam ever. The assholes use kids as pawns. Think how desperate one has to be to use kids as a shield? That is called loser and evil all in one.