Bad News Thread

Note the fear they are spreading.

"Delta has now shattered that optimism. This variant, first identified in India in December, spreads faster than any previous strain of SARS-CoV-2, as the COVID-19 virus is officially named. It is driving up infection rates in every state of the U.S., prompting the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to once again recommend universal mask-wearing.

The Delta outbreak is going to get much worse, warns Michael Osterholm, an epidemiologist who leads the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. "

If one looks at the data and the countries that have just experienced and finished their spike in Delta one would see not the doom, but the good news. Cases rose dramatically. Deaths and hospitalizations DID NOT.

That should be GOOD news.

And yet they pretend that didn't happen and tell us to buckle up and be scared.
Michael “Chicken Little” Osterholm is still making predictions? Either he nor the publication quoting him have any shame. What a joke.
 
ex-Confederate was more accurate than “southeast.“, because you need to include Missouri but not Maryland.

Good question. And one to which you partially know the answer: non-asian minorities and Republicans.

However, if you’re planning to play the race card, adjust for SES before playing it. We already have far too many people yelling racism when none exists. The answer may be more about poverty and media consumption than ethnicity.

My point is that deaths are lower in those places with high rates of vaccination and which actually comply with mask rules. The skin color of the unvaccinated non-masked person is pretty much irrelevant. He’d be at less risk with a mask and a shot.
Your point that deaths are lower in those places with high rates of vaccination and which actually comply with mask use rules are again ignoring how the pro-vaxx Pharma shills are hitchin' a ride on pre-infected naturally immunized folks to make inflated efficacy claims.
 
Meanwhile, Australia, if it could be imagined, is becoming more authoritarian.....

Lots of authoritarian countries have/had rules like this. Cuba comes to mind.

From the article.

"Now, according to the government’s explanatory statement tabled in Parliament, a person will have to demonstrate to the Australian Border Force Commissioner a “compelling reason for needing to leave Australian territory”."

That should scare anyone. This is precisely why one needs to fight these seemingly "common sense" rules in the US now. Gov only goes in one direction related to power.
 
Deeper into the article.

This is disturbing.

"Australia is alone in banning its citizens, temporary visa holders, permanent residents and dual citizens from leaving the country under the international travel ban brought in March 2020."
 
Deeper into the article.

This is disturbing.

"Australia is alone in banning its citizens, temporary visa holders, permanent residents and dual citizens from leaving the country under the international travel ban brought in March 2020."

I thought you lived in Arizona.
 
Nate Silver's breakdown of vaccination/NPI positions in the US. It still roughly breaks down to 1/3 terrified wants restrictions, 1/3 in the middle depending how bad things get, 1/3 thinks it's over and done with. Hasn't moved much since the beginning. Interestingly the 1/3 that's terrified has a small but not insignificant block that doesn't want or can't take the vaccine and so wants the limitations in place to protect them. The 1/3 that's over with it is mostly unvaxxed but has a small but not insignificant block that is. There's absolutely nothing about this which is science driven at this point. It's irrational fear v. reckless abandonment.

IDK, it seems to me the vast majority of Americans are pro-vax, mask ambivalent to mask skeptical (but compliant), anti-mask for children, want fully open schools and just want to live with the "risk" and move on without restriction.

I'm about to get on my 10th flight in the last week and every flight has been 100% full except for one short connection. I would think that if the general population was that worried about Covid, travel wouldn't be so swamped. Airport restaurants are also slammed with no masks while seated.

It seems there are two worlds in the US...the one portrayed by CNN and reality.
 
Be nice to Zonies. They hosted a lot of SoCal soccer during the Newsom lock down. Plus most of them spend part of the year in SoCal.
They sure do. Spent a couple of weekends with them on their boat BBQ'ing and watching Big Bay Boom! Zonies have a 7 day avg. of 2,029 new cases and 15 new deaths for an IFR of .00739. California does marginally better at .00431 after being locked down and not hosting any soccer.
 
Nate Silver's breakdown of vaccination/NPI positions in the US. It still roughly breaks down to 1/3 terrified wants restrictions, 1/3 in the middle depending how bad things get, 1/3 thinks it's over and done with. Hasn't moved much since the beginning. Interestingly the 1/3 that's terrified has a small but not insignificant block that doesn't want or can't take the vaccine and so wants the limitations in place to protect them. The 1/3 that's over with it is mostly unvaxxed but has a small but not insignificant block that is. There's absolutely nothing about this which is science driven at this point. It's irrational fear v. reckless abandonment.


Interesting. Silver says 5 groups, so you read that as 3.

That level of innumeracy pervades covid discussion.
 
IDK, it seems to me the vast majority of Americans are pro-vax, mask ambivalent to mask skeptical (but compliant), anti-mask for children, want fully open schools and just want to live with the "risk" and move on without restriction.

I'm about to get on my 10th flight in the last week and every flight has been 100% full except for one short connection. I would think that if the general population was that worried about Covid, travel wouldn't be so swamped. Airport restaurants are also slammed with no masks while seated.

It seems there are two worlds in the US...the one portrayed by CNN and reality.

What world is CNN portraying?
 
Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.
"Our vaccines are working exceptionally well," Walensky told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "They continue to work well for Delta, with regard to severe illness and death -- they prevent it. But what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission." ((Not good folks. The only people I know who are sick, have blood clots and feel pissed off and scared all at once atr those with two or more jabs))

'Next variant is just around the corner' ((Oh boy, this is never going to end. This is hell))

Getting more people vaccinated won't just help crush this surge, experts say. It will help prevent other -- potentially even more aggressive -- variants from arising in the future.
"The next variant is just around the corner, if we do not all get vaccinated," Adm. Brett Giroir, the former coronavirus testing czar under President Donald Trump, told CNN's Chris Cuomo.
 
CNN fired three workers for showing up to work unvaccinated. No jab, no job. Dam, that place must be hell to work at. I told my wife to be prepared to live in our place under lockdown. I already bought enough food for a year. After that, I know a cave we can live in. I know how to spear fish and survive without the jabs. I heard the most divisive political ever ad ever on the radio. My wife and I laughed but then thought how sick people are.

In the past week, we have been made aware of three employees who were coming to the office unvaccinated. All three have been terminated,” Zucker wrote. “Let me be clear — we have a zero-tolerance policy on this.”
 
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Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.
"Our vaccines are working exceptionally well," Walensky told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "They continue to work well for Delta, with regard to severe illness and death -- they prevent it. But what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission." ((Not good folks. The only people I know who are sick, have blood clots and feel pissed off and scared all at once atr those with two or more jabs))

'Next variant is just around the corner' ((Oh boy, this is never going to end. This is hell))

Getting more people vaccinated won't just help crush this surge, experts say. It will help prevent other -- potentially even more aggressive -- variants from arising in the future.
"The next variant is just around the corner, if we do not all get vaccinated," Adm. Brett Giroir, the former coronavirus testing czar under President Donald Trump, told CNN's Chris Cuomo.
Funny thing is that variants have been right around the corner since before mankind.
 
Funny thing is that variants have been right around the corner since before mankind.
It's starting to concern me now Bruddah. I have friend whose wife works for big pharma. She makes $250,000. Her husband will not get the vax. She told him jab or divorce. She is freaking out because this will be her third divorce and he always used to obey her. Not this time. He listen to crush's advice. My advice, to be very clear, is to question everything and do your own research. After the research, decide for yourself what is best for you and you only. She is actually blaming me for forcing him not to take it. She's a nut job and all about her blood thinner bonus. They both had some money and sign prenup so all is not lost. My pal told me this all happen on Monday and was embarrassed to share with me until today.
 
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