kickingandscreaming
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Yes, I heard/read this recently - forget where.
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kickingandscreaming
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The 40% of health care workers is pretty crazy if true. Below from NYTimes supports this.
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The federal program used a formula that turned out to significantly overestimate how many shots would be needed for long-term care facilities like nursing homes, whose residents are particularly vulnerable to the coronavirus. And another problem arose: A considerable number of residents and, especially, workers at the facilities are turning down the chance to be vaccinated.
A study released Monday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that in the first month of the program, 77.8 percent of residents and 37.5 percent of workers received the vaccine at the average long-term care facility. The study says the true rate for workers may be higher because some may have been vaccinated in other settings. But, even so, federal officials are particularly concerned about how many workers are refusing inoculation, and have been stepping up efforts to change their minds.
kickingandscreaming
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Here's the other thing I am thinking. By sometime in May, we may be getting the point of running out of willing and qualified (no children) people to get their first shot (first shot, not both). I'm guessing somewhere around 15% of the population is too young for the current vaccines (under 18 or 16). I'll round it to 13% to make the remaining population eligible for the vaccine to be 87%. Two-thirds of that is 58% of the US population. Based on surveys and what you note above, this may be optimistic unless many people change their minds. It will take a considerable acceleration in the pace of first shots to get there by May, but two things are working toward that end. We have some good news about the supply ramping up considerably as well as improvements in the distribution and delivery of shots (see Bloomberg below). The other possibility is that the 2nd dose is delayed - up to 12 weeks instead of 4. That would speed the "first shots" considerably. I wouldn't be surprised if my April (maybe earlier), assuming the vaccine pipeline and ability to give shots grows as expected, we spend the month only giving "first shots". By Aprile, we will have more data to determine if a delay is a good idea and allow us to determine if we feel confident the supply will be able to be delivered in time for the delayed 2nd shots.
We are at about 0.5% shots per day. Raising that 50% (as projected) and solely allocating to "first-shots" would take care of 22% in April alone. With some growth in March, we could be near 50% first shots by the end of April.
First Shot
Current: 13%
End of Feb: (15%) (about 1/3% per day)
End of March: (27%) - 12% in the month with growth from 1/3% per day (10%) to 1/2% per day (15%)
End of April: (49%) using 3/4% per day results in 22% in the month
A U.S. Vaccine Surge Is Coming, With Millions of Doses Promised
New supplies should help the pace of vaccinations double in coming weeks
www.bloomberg.com
Is It Safe to Delay a Second COVID Vaccine Dose?
Some evidence indicates that short waits are safe, but there is a chance that partial immunization could help risky new coronavirus variants to develop
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Ok, 3 weeks down: 3 to 11 weeks out now. If he thought it was a nice, blue sky 3 weeks ago, he hasn't seen anything yet.
“The fact is that the surge that is likely to occur with this new variant from England is going to happen in the next six to 14 weeks. And, if we see that happen, which my 45 years in the trenches tell me we will, we are going to see something like we have not seen yet in this country,” Osterholm said.
“You and I are sitting on this beach, where it’s 70 degrees, perfectly blue skies, gentle breeze, but I see that hurricane — Category 5 or higher — 450 miles off shore,” Osterholm told host Chuck Todd. “Telling people to evacuate on the nice, blue sky day is going to be hard. But I can also tell you that the hurricane is coming.”
To some extent I think osterholm is just a hysteric. There’s some evidence to float around for a potential 3rd wave but it shouldn’t nearly be as bad particularly as the elderly and higher risk should be vaccinated with at least the first dose before it begins to take off. For the younger people I agree they should be spacing out the first shots and where’s the j&j shot?? Fall has me worried though given the time for s Africa and other variants to mutate
Also the estimate is in Los Angeles at least 1/3 of us have had it.
Megan McCain turned was one of the pro-lockdowners at the beginning of all this, bordering on hysterical at first (she was pregnant when this all started to go down). Very critical of the Trump admin's handling of this at the beginning and a defender of Fauci. If Fauci's lost Megan McCain it's quite an accomplishment.
thehill.com
Meghan McCain calls for Biden to remove Fauci
Meghan McCain on Monday called for Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious diseases expert, to be fired, blaming him for “inconsistent messaging” regarding the distribution of coronavirus v…
thehill.com
Megan McCain turned was one of the pro-lockdowners at the beginning of all this, bordering on hysterical at first (she was pregnant when this all started to go down). Very critical of the Trump admin's handling of this at the beginning and a defender of Fauci. If Fauci's lost Megan McCain it's quite an accomplishment.
Meghan McCain calls for Biden to remove Fauci
Meghan McCain on Monday called for Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious diseases expert, to be fired, blaming him for “inconsistent messaging” regarding the distribution of coronavirus v…
"remove him and put someone else in place that maybe does understand science"? Maybe you can help her find someone.
Megan McCain turned was one of the pro-lockdowners at the beginning of all this, bordering on hysterical at first (she was pregnant when this all started to go down). Very critical of the Trump admin's handling of this at the beginning and a defender of Fauci. If Fauci's lost Megan McCain it's quite an accomplishment.
Meghan McCain calls for Biden to remove Fauci
Meghan McCain on Monday called for Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious diseases expert, to be fired, blaming him for “inconsistent messaging” regarding the distribution of coronavirus v…
MMcC last April, supporting Rand Paul's anti-lockdown stance, quoted in Fox News --
"I think there has to be more than just we're locking down the country for the foreseeable future."
Well, I think even you could have done a better job.
Yeah, she said the country can't stay lockdown for ever, which you know, she was right. I also believe that was May, but could be wrong about that. She was also one of the first to flee the set of the view and in March was furiously scolding Arizonians and Floridians for not social distancing while the hospital system was melting down in New York. She also at one point of Rand Paul said "I hate him" back a few years back.
That's right, May. Thank you for correcting me.
More from Doc F
Senior White House CoVID advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci threw more cold-water on Americans looking to return to normal life this week; saying even those vaccinated twice should avoid restaurants and movie theaters.
“There are things, even if you’re vaccinated, that you’re not going to be able to do in society,” Fauci said on Monday during a White House COVID-19 press briefing. “For example, indoor dining, theaters, places where people congregate. That’s because of the safety of society.”
“We hope that when the data comes in, it’s going to show that the virus level is quite low and you’re not transmitting it,” Fauci said, adding: “We don’t know that now. And for that reason, we want to make sure that people continue to wear masks despite the fact that they’re vaccinated.”
Senior White House CoVID advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci threw more cold-water on Americans looking to return to normal life this week; saying even those vaccinated twice should avoid restaurants and movie theaters.
“There are things, even if you’re vaccinated, that you’re not going to be able to do in society,” Fauci said on Monday during a White House COVID-19 press briefing. “For example, indoor dining, theaters, places where people congregate. That’s because of the safety of society.”
“We hope that when the data comes in, it’s going to show that the virus level is quite low and you’re not transmitting it,” Fauci said, adding: “We don’t know that now. And for that reason, we want to make sure that people continue to wear masks despite the fact that they’re vaccinated.”
Desert Hound
DA
Schools Are Opening — Except On The Left Coast And In The Swamp
Outside of the educational hellholes of the West Coast and the DC metro area, the rest of the country is opening schools.
issuesinsights.com
Desert Hound
DA
Absolutely crazy. They want to give you the vaccine and then have everyone pretend they are still at risk and as such can't do this or that.
There will be enough states/places that will go through with variations of this.
States that still don't have schools open now? Bank on them playing the dog and pony show next year with all kinds of "safety" protocols in place in and around schools and youth sports.
You know at some point people have to say enough is enough to this gov overreach.
We need a new version of the Gadsden Flag to let them know we just want to live our lives without nonsensical rules.
Telling the truth is not good enough hound. You need to show them the truth. Truth hurts too and when its slapped in someone's face like a Doc, they still deny the truth and keep lying. You know why?
Well, the only bright side on this is the push back has been very severe and has been across the political spectrum and not just the hard core antilockdowners. Like I said before, if the Biden admin has lost their dear friend Megan McCain, they aren't reading the room very well.
Apparently, Fauci is giving us soon "firm recommendations" on what vaccinated people can and can't do. Anyone want to bet which list is longer?
Supposedly vaccinated people aren't supposed to do indoor dining or go to theatres yet. If it includes not hugging grandma after a year, I think they are going to have a full scale "just ignore them" reaction on their hands.
Fauci: Vaccinated people shouldn't dine indoors or go to the theater quite yet | Business Insider India
It may become safe to gather indoors again as more people get vaccinated and as coronavirus cases drop further, Dr. Anthony Fauci said.
Desert Hound
DA
If you get a vaccine but still cant do things, what is the point?Supposedly vaccinated people aren't supposed to do indoor dining or go to theatres yet. If it includes not hugging grandma after a year, I think they are going to have a full scale "just ignore them" reaction on their hands.
Fauci: Vaccinated people shouldn't dine indoors or go to the theater quite yet | Business Insider India
It may become safe to gather indoors again as more people get vaccinated and as coronavirus cases drop further, Dr. Anthony Fauci said.www.businessinsider.in
It is like we are stuck in the Twilight Zone with some of these idiots.