honestly this Cal South insurance or tournament insurance is challenging for me to understand. What is it for? We have always carried our own health insurance and have no reason to sue anyone unless there is severe negligence. I know there is a pandemic and I know I can educate my kid on how to stay safe. If I choose for them to play its on me. I am not going to sue anyone for COVID. what am I missing?
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El Clasico
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Are you sure that you are remembering the case correctly?
The medical insurance is almost useless as other posters have pointed out, but the liability insurance is priceless. The Cal South tournament sanctioning process in which tournament organizers prove (or at least promise) to play by the rules Cal South sets up makes that insurance affordable to Cal South. No rational insurer will get involved with an organization that can't follow its own rules or influence their affiliated organizations (clubs, teams, tournaments, etc) to do the smae.
The story based on court testimony is that McDonald's served the coffee at a temperature hot enough to cause scalding burns (180° - 190° F) because customers had complained about coffee getting cold before they could drink it.
Yes thats my understanding of what happened. Never heard the pressure theory alleged.
Obedience to a narrative.
sheep is in the eye of the beholder as their are Surf sheep present in the wild as well. I do admire their tenacity and respect that they are likely fighting for their financial survival.
We will see what happens. Maybe this turns into an AZ only Surf Cup, the beginning of a tradition. Time will tell if CA clubs have the ganas to travel to AZ under strict restrictions only to come back again in a month, but play on better fields.
The beholder and myself see the sheep clearly on here. Looking forward to a great tournament. Arizona has some terrific cities, hotels and restaurants which I'm sure could use a little economic boost during the china virus lock downs. They also have some great soccer venues. Looking forward to some great competitive matches.
It will be a great success if they pull it off. Nobody can trust what Gavin will do with youth sports now or in the future. No leadership results in people doing what’s best for their family or company. In fact, Gavin does absolutely nothing for kids ; he only rules against them in everything.
Oh you never know. He ignores the dining out rules he very well may have a kid in the tournament. We will keep an eye our for him... rules for thee.. not for me seems how Cali Politicos roll.
Soccerfan2
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This was one of my case studies in law school.
notintheface
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Do you remember the reports of the guy supposedly possessing a gun at Galway Downs? Do you think the tournament offered effective enough security to prevent that? Do you think that there are families who believed that the tournament didn't offer effective enough security? There's your answer. I'm not talking covid, I'm talking about run of the mill day to day tournament liability. This kind of random shit happens way way way more often than you think. Basically every time you hear an ambulance pull up, guess what's going to happen.
notintheface
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Looking at the map, there are six 11v11 fields and four 9v9 fields (presumably you cut one of those in half for two 7v7 fields).
That nets you what, a maximum of 140 teams or so. I'm going to guess there are going to be a few teams getting refunds next week, good luck with those credit card fees.
MSK357
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Thats hilarious that you would bring up the guy that brought a gun to a tournament. What cal south tournament for youth soccer have you been to that would have provided enough security to prevent that? I have yet to attend a tournament with metal detectors at a controlled entrance with armed guards lol.
What about the kids? Selfish people take care of their "own" needs first.
whatithink
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SSC has 10 (4 with lights) 11 v 11 fields. Those fields normally shut down at the end of the year until after the Phoenix (Golf) open. They are used as a parking lot and for various corporate activities.
I expect Surf are touring Mesa today looking at Red Mountain (6), Quail Run (4), Desert Sky (4) and Santos (4-5).
Another metro city (Tempe) closed their fields.
Of more importance to the metro cities is getting everything under control before baseball pre season which is huge and has a far larger financial impact to the cities. If I were in charge of those cities, and looking at this from a financial perspective, I'd be telling Surf to gtfoh.
whatithink
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To add, Stadium and Team Directory | Phoenix.org, 15 teams for a month of daily games vs Surf ...
For the olders, there are 10 fields, only 4 under lights.
I am just dying - this is hilarious!
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Good use of words and I appreciate your resistance to being a sheep. And yes, plenty of OK soccer venues throughout the valley. The reality is, none compare to Reach, except maybe Scottsdale Sports complex (within the phoenix metro area), which has less fields by far. There are others that have good field surfaces, there are many that aren't currently being maintained and have dead grass.
They will be challenged to get this in (I'm a realist). Quality of fields is a big deal (maybe). If they pull it off, I have a player who will play, the other will sit this one out. If they don't pull it off, that's fine also. I'll enjoy a new year's eve weekend not having to worry about a soccer tournament. Heaven knows I've been to many and have many more coming my way.
good luck.
I just hope surf doesn't pull the rainout surprise and tell everyone at at the last minute that due to field availability teams will getting two shortened games with 20min half's.
Nothing like spending the big bucks and the whole weekend for 80min worth of soccer.
Lighted fields seem like a must given the time of year and number of teams.