Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

Flipthrow said:
“Blues sends more girls to surgery than to Stanford.”

I appreciate this remark. Size and skill are tough to beat. Some of their teams we would call the black and blues because of all the bruises they would give out. Know plenty of their very good players that had to quit soccer as the injuries piled up because of the style they played.
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Similar to 95% of the D1 schools too. Have you gone out to see a college game up live and personal? Tad is getting his goats ready for college. Too much soccer games is the real issue. My dd played over 100 games when she was 9 at legends. She always was asked to guest play with their top teams and we always accepted. Even when Goats FC called, we were there within 60 minutes :) This is why the GDA tried so hard to make "development" the standard and not both.
 
Ellejustus said:
That sucks. Kicker says its already happening at Beach & Legends. I think the timing of all this is piss poor for all of us. USSF don;t care about us at all. I felt like sh*t two years ago when my dd got locked out of all the fun and now some you know how it feels. However, I want all the top clubs playing together and I want a fair way to compete. How about this for ECNL idea. Take all the other top teams left out this year and make an "ECNL Independent League" for 2020-2021. They can take top four to playoffs. Too many good teams and lets stop all the poaching. Then in 2021-2022 season the ECNL can learn what are the best teams based on playing in the games and make their top tier league and then a regional league. Then we have a local tier 1 or flight one league where good local teams can be formed and actually challenge some of the ECNL teams. I predict parents will not want all this division. It sucks to move teams you guys and the girls have been through so much already.
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Yup, the solution is so obvious and staring everyone in the face. ECNL just runs the DA league, basically intact, for the next year. The DA teams each play a crossover game against the ECNL teams. They use the DA showcase venues and increase the number of showcases. No one needs to go through the turmoil of figuring out which several thousand ECNL players should be displaced by several thousand DA players, and where the displaced players should all land, in a crazy situation where no one in the country can even train or tryout in person for the next couple months, at best. Then, based on results, they merge everyone into two tiers of 70 or so teams with promotion and relegation (and some crossover play in leagues and showcases) the following year.
 
Kicknit22 said:
@Ellejustus , you keep referring to your kid and other players as “goats”. Do you know what “goat” means? Or do I not know what it means, in the context in which you’re using the word? Because if I’m right, and I’m not saying I am, it can’t be plural. There’s one Goat and I doubt anyone on this forum can claim to have raised them.
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Ya, you don't know his definition of goat...ba, ba, ba, baaaaa
 
Emma said:
Pro/rel at all age groups is what keeps clubs honest and striving to be the best. If some clubs resort to lots of long balls to win, then it helps other teams in the league learn how to deal with long balls. The will to win is the most important thing in any sport. It's not fair to other clubs in the league, especially the ones that worked hard to develop strong players and teams, if the bottom 2-3 teams don't bring their best challenge to the games year in and year out. There must be something that holds clubs accountable in the ECNL. There are only a few clubs in the ECNL that consistently develop players and place them in colleges bc of their soccer abilities. Those Clubs will not be affected by pro/rel. The ones that will be affected are the ones not developing the players or the game and not contributing to the league competitively. Why continue to keep them in the same league if they are under performing and hurting the development of the real deal clubs? If ECNL hasn't learned how vulnerable it is by excluding clubs and not promoting/relegating based commitment to competition and development, then it will again suffer the same fate in a few years again.

Pro/rel should only be feared by those clubs/teams that are only in an elite league bc of their friendships. Your blues/slammers/surf teams will not have to worry about it but big clubs that are "chicken" would be afraid of it.
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I’m just telling you that you are hoping for a fantasy that is not financially sustainable and would not be effective either. You are hoping for the soccer equivalent of communism. What if everyone got to own a rainbow? Wouldn’t it be so great? Somebody should make that happen.
 
Copa9 said:
Or when two of their players take a player down and a third one comes in and kicks the player in the head while she is down. Ref rarely sees it because of all the bodies. Been there seen that.
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Had a civil lawsuit in San Jose water polo over that kind of stuff. Knee to the face under the water, where the ref can't see. The ref won't look at the video and the doctor's report, but a jury will.
 
EOTL said:
I’m just telling you that you are hoping for a fantasy that is not financially sustainable and would not be effective either. You are hoping for the soccer equivalent of communism. What if everyone got to own a rainbow? Wouldn’t it be so great? Somebody should make that happen.
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You are putting words in other people's mouths again. If you want to argue with yourself, why do you need a forum?
 
Hawkeye said:
Yup, the solution is so obvious and staring everyone in the face. ECNL just runs the DA league, basically intact, for the next year. The DA teams each play a crossover game against the ECNL teams. They use the DA showcase venues and increase the number of showcases. No one needs to go through the turmoil of figuring out which several thousand ECNL players should be displaced by several thousand DA players, and where the displaced players should all land, in a crazy situation where no one in the country can even train or tryout in person for the next couple months, at best. Then, based on results, they merge everyone into two tiers of 70 or so teams with promotion and relegation (and some crossover play in leagues and showcases) the following year.
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Brilliant. Man, you guys who know how to write without emotion say what I was really trying to say. I 100% want all this unified. Let's do it for the girls and worry about winning teams after the girls are settled. Some girls should be free to look around, but lets put a "no club coach contacting goats."
 
Kicknit22 said:
@Ellejustus , you keep referring to your kid and other players as “goats”. Do you know what “goat” means? Or do I not know what it means, in the context in which you’re using the word? Because if I’m right, and I’m not saying I am, it can’t be plural. There’s one Goat and I doubt anyone on this forum can claim to have raised them.
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Goat is in the eye of the beholder bro. My dd is my goat soccer player. With words like "Elite" "Premier" "World Class" "Top Tier" "Development" and so on, your going to give me a hard time with my dd is a goat? How about my dd is an "elite" soccer player playing in the Elite Club National league? Or my dd is world class playa because she played in the DA? My dd is a soccer player who played for the Goat FC team where I found out about the socal soccer forum. So what?
 
Kicknit22 said:
@Ellejustus , you keep referring to your kid and other players as “goats”. Do you know what “goat” means? Or do I not know what it means, in the context in which you’re using the word? Because if I’m right, and I’m not saying I am, it can’t be plural. There’s one Goat and I doubt anyone on this forum can claim to have raised them.
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You will never hear me say my dd is a Unicorn though. Maps taught me that word and I agree 100%. Goat soccer player=Top soccer player with 3.9 or less. Sheep soccer player fills the rest of the roster spots of 19-33. I get all the terms bro.
 
dad4 said:
Had a civil lawsuit in San Jose water polo over that kind of stuff. Knee to the face under the water, where the ref can't see. The ref won't look at the video and the doctor's report, but a jury will.
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Damn you’re on to something. Lot’s of deep pockets and assets in elite club soccer.
Mac & Dad LLP “penalty chasers”
 
Ellejustus said:
Goat is in the eye of the beholder bro. My dd is my goat soccer player. With words like "Elite" "Premier" "World Class" "Top Tier" "Development" and so on, your going to give me a hard time with my dd is a goat? How about my dd is an "elite" soccer player playing in the Elite Club National league? Or my dd is world class playa because she played in the DA? My dd is a soccer player who played for the Goat FC team where I found out about the socal soccer forum. So what?
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I wasn’t trying to give you a hard time, EJ. Just never heard someone use the term so often on this forum. I can’t claim to be hip to the 4-1-1, bro. Which is why I mentioned that “I could be wrong”. I can fully appreciate being a honk for your own kid. Most kids care more about that opinion more than any others (up to a certain age, I think) lol!
 
Kicknit22 said:
@Ellejustus , you keep referring to your kid and other players as “goats”. Do you know what “goat” means? Or do I not know what it means, in the context in which you’re using the word? Because if I’m right, and I’m not saying I am, it can’t be plural. There’s one Goat and I doubt anyone on this forum can claim to have raised them.
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Kicknit22 said:
What the hell is “GAL” League or “ECRL”? Are these new leagues?
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ECRL - Elite Clubs Regional League basically the second division of ECNL.
 
Ellejustus said:
You will never hear me say my dd is a Unicorn though. Maps taught me that word and I agree 100%. Goat soccer player=Top soccer player with 3.9 or less. Sheep soccer player fills the rest of the roster spots of 19-33. I get all the terms bro.
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So, Goat soccer player = Top player with 3.9 or less what?
 
EOTL said:
I’m just telling you that you are hoping for a fantasy that is not financially sustainable and would not be effective either. You are hoping for the soccer equivalent of communism. What if everyone got to own a rainbow? Wouldn’t it be so great? Somebody should make that happen.
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Pro/Rel is the epitomy of Capitalism. You don't produce a quality product, then you don't belong on the elite list and someone who steps up to produce a quality product will take your place. Communism is the existing ECNL commune. Everyone gets a share, regardless of the amount of effort or the quality of the effort and no one ever gets pushed out of the commune. How is it financially unsustainable? The bottom 2-3 leave and another 2-3 replace them. Someone on the bottom is always willing to foot the bill to get in the door.
 
Kicknit22 said:
What the hell is “GAL” League or “ECRL”? Are these new leagues?
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ECRL is ECNL 2nd teams (R is regional and the N is for National).

GAL is Girls Academy League, which is now the highest tier of DPL and apparently why where many ex-DA clubs that didn't get into ECNL/ECRL will put their top teams next year.
 
Soccer said:
The winner of ECRL league will qualify for National ECNL playoffs. So technically a Legends et all could still win it all.
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Are clubs that aren’t in ECNL allowed to play ECRL or is it the same group of clubs? And could a club have teams in ECNL at one age group and ECRL at others depending on history of success?
 
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