Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

sdklutz said:
I think the question that should be asked is not what your DPL team is doing but what are your former DA teams doing? Are they becoming part of DPL?
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Would be interesting to hear from DA families if the teams in general, and girls specifically, will stay with this DPL league. I imagine that Beach, ALbion and Legends are calling the other clubs that are not in the ECNL to try to get them to join. Liverpool.... which others?
 
ToonArmy said:
There's 2 tiers academy tier or like you said gal and dpl tier. Who knows if clubs are considering it?
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Not much of a choice it seems. Good luck to all those in the GAL league. I like that better than DPL. I hated those letters for obvious reasons. Not at all the people playing and supporting DPL, just how it was tricked on so many who were sold ECNL one day and then DPL the next. Don't expect ECNL to have the warm & fuzzy feelings for those clubs who sold ECNL and then tricked customers into the new DPL. I do notice they have the three Surf Teams in the GAL league so that's cool too.
 
pokergod said:
Would be interesting to hear from DA families if the teams in general, and girls specifically, will stay with this DPL league. I imagine that Beach, ALbion and Legends are calling the other clubs that are not in the ECNL to try to get them to join. Liverpool.... which others?
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Some might just do what the Pats are doing?
 
Ellejustus said:
Some might just do what the Pats are doing?
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They may, but that is a huge ego blow. Pats DA, as set forth in many previous posts, did not have quite the success as Legends and Beach. I can't see Legends and Beach accepting regional relegation, even with a path forward (I also think they know their best players and coaches will jump ship if they take that route). The business model for beach is based on da and development toward da. That way, they can keep tons of absolutely shitty flight iii teams with bad coaches, with the promise of a better tomorrow. Those excellent top teams keep the $$$$$ coming in to fund the "non profit". Without that promise of a better tomorrow, the wheels come off.
 
dad4 said:
ULittles play in pro/rel all over the place. all it does is give us mostly fair games within a short drive.

I have not had a problem with a coach asking dd to play hurt. He knows injury rate is #1 for us, and has been great. Just need a good relationship with the coach.

I think EOTL's main objection is that pro/rel would weaken the market power of the big clubs like Blues.
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U littles are playing for fun, not to go to Stanford. Pro/rel also makes sense with little kids because, unlike with older kids who know where they rank in the food chain and sort themselves out accordingly, but the little ones don’t, so someone else needs to do it.

I’m just telling you how it is and why. Any time you start a sentence with “I wish...”, “I want...” or “Wouldn’t it be great if...”, you may as well end it with “clouds were made out of candy and it rained gummy bears.” Promotion/relegation doesn’t work at the highest level of youth girls soccer. I know that because it doesn’t exist despite years of cheap ass whiny parents like yourself constantly clambering for it. Clubs giving away high quality training doesn’t work, and I know that for the same reason.

You claim that big clubs are chicken, when the reality is you’re chicken to have your kid try out at a real club because you know how that will go. Either she’ll get cut because she isn’t good enough, or she’ll get cut because you don’t pay. Your daughter’s star teammate can’t carry your kid forever and should not be expected to do so.
 
pokergod said:
They may, but that is a huge ego blow. Pats DA, as set forth in many previous posts, did not have quite the success as Legends and Beach. I can't see Legends and Beach accepting regional relegation, even with a path forward (I also think they know their best players and coaches will jump ship if they take that route). The business model for beach is based on da and development toward da. That way, they can keep tons of absolutely shitty flight iii teams with bad coaches, with the promise of a better tomorrow. Those excellent top teams keep the $$$$$ coming in to fund the "non profit". Without that promise of a better tomorrow, the wheels come off.
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Maybe top team goes ECRL and then their other teams do the GAL League? I like that too. Bottom line, who cares what league your team is in next season. Just find the right suit and all will be well.....lol....jk......having fun everyone and please don;t take me so serious. Please........... We should only have the top ECRL teams play ECNL teams. This is actually all so stupid. It;s time for everyone to use their Soccer Mulligan. Say sorry and lets get all the top teams in a league for 2020-2021. Lets call it ECNL. We will all start together at the start gate and play the games and then separate the teams based on the actually outcome of the games for playoffs 2021-2022 season. Regulate from the 2020-2021 results :)
 
EOTL said:
U littles are playing for fun, not to go to Stanford. Pro/rel also makes sense with little kids because, unlike with older kids who know where they rank in the food chain and sort themselves out accordingly, but the little ones don’t, so someone else needs to do it.

I’m just telling you how it is and why. Any time you start a sentence with “I wish...”, “I want...” or “Wouldn’t it be great if...”, you may as well end it with “clouds were made out of candy and it rained gummy bears.” Promotion/relegation doesn’t work at the highest level of youth girls soccer. I know that because it doesn’t exist despite years of cheap ass whiny parents like yourself constantly clambering for it. Clubs giving away high quality training doesn’t work, and I know that for the same reason.

You claim that big clubs are chicken, when the reality is you’re chicken to have your kid try out at a real club because you know how that will go. Either she’ll get cut because she isn’t good enough, or she’ll get cut because you don’t pay. Your daughter’s star teammate can’t carry your kid forever and should not be expected to do so.
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College path? Blues sends more girls to surgery than to Stanford. Bad bargain even if you are that good.

Soccer should be for fun at all levels, not just U Little. If it isn't fun, why are you there?
 
dad4 said:
The left column looks like the invite list to a very good tournament. I'd be happy for my dd team to play any of them.

Hope those 17 clubs are talking to each other. If ECNL are going to be pricks about it, the top DA clubs need to work together to set up events.
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EOTL said:
U littles are playing for fun, not to go to Stanford. Pro/rel also makes sense with little kids because, unlike with older kids who know where they rank in the food chain and sort themselves out accordingly, but the little ones don’t, so someone else needs to do it.

I’m just telling you how it is and why. Any time you start a sentence with “I wish...”, “I want...” or “Wouldn’t it be great if...”, you may as well end it with “clouds were made out of candy and it rained gummy bears.” Promotion/relegation doesn’t work at the highest level of youth girls soccer. I know that because it doesn’t exist despite years of cheap ass whiny parents like yourself constantly clambering for it. Clubs giving away high quality training doesn’t work, and I know that for the same reason.

You claim that big clubs are chicken, when the reality is you’re chicken to have your kid try out at a real club because you know how that will go. Either she’ll get cut because she isn’t good enough, or she’ll get cut because you don’t pay. Your daughter’s star teammate can’t carry your kid forever and should not be expected to do so.
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Pro/rel at all age groups is what keeps clubs honest and striving to be the best. If some clubs resort to lots of long balls to win, then it helps other teams in the league learn how to deal with long balls. The will to win is the most important thing in any sport. It's not fair to other clubs in the league, especially the ones that worked hard to develop strong players and teams, if the bottom 2-3 teams don't bring their best challenge to the games year in and year out. There must be something that holds clubs accountable in the ECNL. There are only a few clubs in the ECNL that consistently develop players and place them in colleges bc of their soccer abilities. Those Clubs will not be affected by pro/rel. The ones that will be affected are the ones not developing the players or the game and not contributing to the league competitively. Why continue to keep them in the same league if they are under performing and hurting the development of the real deal clubs? If ECNL hasn't learned how vulnerable it is by excluding clubs and not promoting/relegating based commitment to competition and development, then it will again suffer the same fate in a few years again.

Pro/rel should only be feared by those clubs/teams that are only in an elite league bc of their friendships. Your blues/slammers/surf teams will not have to worry about it but big clubs that are "chicken" would be afraid of it.
 
“Blues sends more girls to surgery than to Stanford.”

I appreciate this remark. Size and skill are tough to beat. Some of their teams we would call the black and blues because of all the bruises they would give out. Know plenty of their very good players that had to quit soccer as the injuries piled up because of the style they played.
 
Flipthrow said:
“Blues sends more girls to surgery than to Stanford.”

I appreciate this remark. Size and skill are tough to beat. Some of their teams we would call the black and blues because of all the bruises they would give out. Know plenty of their very good players that had to quit soccer as the injuries piled up because of the style they played.
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Or when two of their players take a player down and a third one comes in and kicks the player in the head while she is down. Ref rarely sees it because of all the bodies. Been there seen that.
 
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