ECNL vs. DA turf war has created a 'toxic environment'

End of the Line said:
So, how about those GDA newcomers? Looks like Beach paid to fly about 65 kiddos to Las Vegas to beat Albion by a combined 19-2. Salvo (wherever that is) fared worse, losing by a combined 20-0. Does anyone have thoughts about this new era of meaningful competition?
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Steelers went into NE and got their asses kicked Sunday night. South Bay Beach went on the road into Vegas Abion and kicked ass and that should be praised. Vegas needs to regroup like my freaking Steelers. NE is looking real good btw and my boy AB is playing next week for them. He got out of Oakland and landed with Bill and Tommy. How the hell did he pull that off? When Vegas hits the road they better catch South Bay Beach off guard. I do hope they can take in some SoCal site seeing though. We can use the revenue, seems like youth soccer money is getting exported out of Cali. BTW, anyone not named Kicker please tell me if my dd team is playing the Vegas B team next week on the road for ECNL or is that DA Vegas team the top dog in Vegas? @MARsSPEED? I need your help Mars. Also, how much money did the avg family throw down for the first road trip of the season? That's a 3 day trip regardless if you play one game. Like I said, I'm sure the 13 year olds are having a blast in the pool while pops is pounding the booze shooting 98 on the golf course. I'll drive up Fri at 12 and come back after the game. See ya, heading back to the beach asap :) $$$$$$$$$$
 
As expected, Albion Las Vegas did great in the younger age groups and struggled in the olders. In two years, most of their age groups should be competitive. (no child on either team or leagues but the U15 and U14 Albion Vegas teams are pretty tough.

Results from website as follows:

0 Albion SC Las Vegas U-17
7 Beach Futbol Club U-17


0 Albion SC Las Vegas U-18/19
3 Beach Futbol Club U-18/19


1 Albion SC Las Vegas U-15
2 Beach Futbol Club U-15


1 Albion SC Las Vegas U-16
7 Beach Futbol Club U-16


6 Albion SC Las Vegas U-14
1 Beach Futbol Club U-14
 
Emma said:
As expected, Albion Las Vegas did great in the younger age groups and struggled in the olders. In two years, most of their age groups should be competitive. (no child on either team or leagues but the U15 and U14 Albion Vegas teams are pretty tough.

Results from website as follows:

0 Albion SC Las Vegas U-17
7 Beach Futbol Club U-17


0 Albion SC Las Vegas U-18/19
3 Beach Futbol Club U-18/19


1 Albion SC Las Vegas U-15
2 Beach Futbol Club U-15


1 Albion SC Las Vegas U-16
7 Beach Futbol Club U-16


6 Albion SC Las Vegas U-14
1 Beach Futbol Club U-14
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Great work Emma. So if I understand you correctly, most, if not all the top baby Vegas Goats who are U14 and less are heading over to Vegas Abion already and in the next two years the Heat FC ECNL will be the "B" team in Vegas for all ages? But the Heat 04' team my dd will be battling next weekend is the top team until they age out?
 
Justus said:
Great work Emma. So if I understand you correctly, most, if not all the top baby Vegas Goats who are U14 and less are heading over to Vegas Abion already and in the next two years the Heat FC ECNL will be the "B" team in Vegas for all ages? But the Heat 04' team my dd will be battling next weekend is the top team until they age out?
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I just got word that 100% the Heat FC 04' is the A Team. Keeper is going to USC too. I'm super excited for the drive now. When or lose, you always want to battle the best when you drive over 800 miles round trip through the dessert and SC is not bad to test your skills. Super stoked :)
 
LASTMAN14 said:
According to the GDA Mafia:D; Two out of state ECNL clubs drove 370 miles to play a California based team over the weekend. Which is roughly 100 miles further than Beach drove to Las Vegas.:eek: Now these clubs combined played 12 matches. They lost 11 of them and were outscored 40-8. :confused:

This bashing of leagues can go on forever. There will always be a tit for tat. No matter what is flung. Just pick what's best for your kid. Both are good viable options.
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So ECNL team from Vegas drove or flew to So cal for ECNL games. And DA kids from So Cal drove to Vegas for DA games.
Both were a bit lopsided.
Would it have been better for all parties (Competion and travel wise) for the so cal team ecnl team to play the so cal DA team? And likewise for Vegas?


I used to (sort of) like scanning the scores each weekend to see how everyone does. Too many leagues now.
 
I don’t know about Vegas teams for younger girls, but For older girl LVSA (non DA or ECNL) is much stronger than DA or ECNL options in Las Vegas - at least for U16 and U17. In SoCal there are a handful of non DA and non ECNL teams in the older ages that are competitive against their DA and ECNL counterparts. Hoping these 02s and 03s (and probably some 04s) who are at that same level but who’ve opted not to play DA or ECNL can get past all this madness and finish out their club careers unscathed.
 
timbuck said:
So ECNL team from Vegas drove or flew to So cal for ECNL games. And DA kids from So Cal drove to Vegas for DA games.
Both were a bit lopsided.
Would it have been better for all parties (Competion and travel wise) for the so cal team ecnl team to play the so cal DA team? And likewise for Vegas?


I used to (sort of) like scanning the scores each weekend to see how everyone does. Too many leagues now.
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No, Vegas needs the cash and dads are bored in both places and they need to get out of town for different reasons. No need for all this tit for tat. So many leagues and philosophies to choose from to make one happy. One league thinks they are the true and only way and all other ways are wrong and doing it all wrong. Not committed enough (although both leagues/philosophies have to drive to Vegas and SoCal every week in their cars and wave at each other as they drive by wondering wtf is going on or fly first class or whatever you can afford). Lot's of money being made off someone's little legs and sweat. Dad is having a blast for sure, maybe mom too, Are the girls? Really, are they? 800 miles? This is too funny :)
 
Own Goal said:
I don’t know about Vegas teams for younger girls, but For older girl LVSA (non DA or ECNL) is much stronger than DA or ECNL options in Las Vegas - at least for U16 and U17. In SoCal there are a handful of non DA and non ECNL teams in the older ages that are competitive against their DA and ECNL counterparts. Hoping these 02s and 03s (and probably some 04s) who are at that same level but who’ve opted not to play DA or ECNL can get past all this madness and finish out their club careers unscathed.
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Where did your team come from???? Dude, I'm trying to make my trip fun by telling myself were playing the Vegas A Team. Please enlighten me with your squad. I want top 20 D1 or don't waste my time. What commits you got over there at LVSA? 800 miles...…...tell you want, take your top 11 from both teams and I'll ask our coach if we can play Vegas Combo team Sunday. What say you Own Goal?
 
Justus said:
Great work Emma. So if I understand you correctly, most, if not all the top baby Vegas Goats who are U14 and less are heading over to Vegas Abion already and in the next two years the Heat FC ECNL will be the "B" team in Vegas for all ages? But the Heat 04' team my dd will be battling next weekend is the top team until they age out?
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Absolutely not with regards to the baby goats. Lol. NO ONE jumped to Albion. The 06 team has always been good, especially when they were Inspirada. 05 team maybe be okay.

The top 04 team in the state is Heat 04. Hell they are the top 03, and 02 teams here. Look at tournament results. When the 04s came to play, every one (meaning LVSA) switched out of the flight of their own tournament @Own Goal .

There was no movement here at tryouts. You can look at last year’s results and see Heat was 2nd in SW conference because they scored 1 goal less than LAFC.
 
shales1002 said:
Absolutely not with regards to the baby goats. Lol. NO ONE jumped to Albion. The 06 team has always been good, especially when they were Inspirada. 05 team maybe be okay.

The top 04 team in the state is Heat 04. Hell they are the top 03, and 02 teams here. Look at tournament results. When the 04s came to play, every one (meaning LVSA) switched out of the flight of their own tournament @Own Goal .

There was no movement here at tryouts. You can look at last year’s results and see Heat was 2nd in SW conference because they scored 1 goal less than LAFC.
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Now that is said with conviction. Right now I'm going with Heat 04' and my drive just got way better. Maybe LVSA would be up for a scrimmage on Sunday?
 
Justus said:
Now that is said with conviction. Right now I'm going with Heat 04' and my drive just got way better. Maybe LVSA would be up for a scrimmage on Sunday?
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Good luck with that one ...they won’t even scrimmage the local teams or teams within their own club. LVSA does have some talented players who will continue to go unnoticed.
 
shales1002 said:
Absolutely not with regards to the baby goats. Lol. NO ONE jumped to Albion. The 06 team has always been good, especially when they were Inspirada. 05 team maybe be okay.

The top 04 team in the state is Heat 04. Hell they are the top 03, and 02 teams here. Look at tournament results. When the 04s came to play, every one (meaning LVSA) switched out of the flight of their own tournament @Own Goal .

There was no movement here at tryouts. You can look at last year’s results and see Heat was 2nd in SW conference because they scored 1 goal less than LAFC.
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Does anyone truly know the top 04' A Team in NoCal? How about AZ teams? OH? MI? Vegas already has two teams claiming A Team status. Based on the U14 Vegas Abion spanking they did on the South Bay Beach Power, I would think the Abion DA teams will have the upper hand and will squash you all like little bugs. Then we will have weekly shuttle services to drive all the baby goats across state lines for big matches. 2011 goats watch out, Vegas is heating up.
 
Justus said:
Why go unnoticed?
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Unfortunately with all of these battles with leagues (ECNL/DA), I do believe they need a platform for the exposure. In the Southwest the top players are in either league. LVSA plays National League. Anyone that’s been to either ECNL/DA showcase knows what the sidelines look like. I know people will say you can get there without either which is true. It will require a lot more elbow grease. Just look for LVSA’s college commits.
 
shales1002 said:
Unfortunately with all of these battles with leagues (ECNL/DA), I do believe they need a platform for the exposure. In the Southwest the top players are in either league. LVSA plays National League. Anyone that’s been to either ECNL/DA showcase knows what the sidelines look like. I know people will say you can get there without either which is true. It will require a lot more elbow grease. Just look for LVSA’s college commits.
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So ECNL Heat FC was #1 in Vegas. DA Vegas Albion came in this year and is basically trying to ruin their business and probably go after their top Goat players too? National League teams like LVSA don't have top GOATs but some are ok and are just trying to stay out of the way of the two top dogs fighting over market share and their players. I wonder why Owngoal was claiming his team was superior to the DA and ECNL teams.
 
Justus said:
So ECNL Heat FC was #1 in Vegas. DA Vegas Albion came in this year and is basically trying to ruin their business and probably go after their top Goat players too? National League teams like LVSA don't have top GOATs but some are ok and are just trying to stay out of the way of the two top dogs fighting over market share and their players. I wonder why Owngoal was claiming his team was superior to the DA and ECNL teams.
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Albion was definitely coming for the GOAT players. I’m sure they still will. After last weekends results, they might need to stay persistent. You summed it up. LVSA 03 won the National League title AFTER ECNL/GDA was formed.
 
Justus said:
Any free offers at Albion or pay to play or both?
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shales1002 said:
Albion was definitely coming for the GOAT players. I’m sure they still will. After last weekends results, they might need to stay persistent. You summed it up. LVSA 03 won the National League title AFTER ECNL/GDA was formed.
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And I bet they now they claim National Championship like Legends and South bay Beach does? So Legends is still in NL so they technically could win two NC like Blues could. I'm already confused. Its becoming like boxing. So many flights and divisions now :(
 
Emma said:
As expected, Albion Las Vegas did great in the younger age groups and struggled in the olders. In two years, most of their age groups should be competitive. (no child on either team or leagues but the U15 and U14 Albion Vegas teams are pretty tough.

Results from website as follows:

0 Albion SC Las Vegas U-17
7 Beach Futbol Club U-17


0 Albion SC Las Vegas U-18/19
3 Beach Futbol Club U-18/19


1 Albion SC Las Vegas U-15
2 Beach Futbol Club U-15


1 Albion SC Las Vegas U-16
7 Beach Futbol Club U-16


6 Albion SC Las Vegas U-14
1 Beach Futbol Club U-14
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@shales1002 I think It's safe to say were both diehard UCLA fans, right? I know it's hard right now. I can't even wear my UCLA hat around town these days. I'm so pissed. Anyway, Emma put these scores out and it got me thinking how the soccer team is doing in Westwood. I'm afraid to ask this question in the college section so I was hoping you get help. I have two. How did we lose 2-0 to Santa Clara with 30 YNT out of 37 on the team? How many YNT players does Santa Clara have?
 
shales1002 said:
Absolutely not with regards to the baby goats. Lol. NO ONE jumped to Albion. The 06 team has always been good, especially when they were Inspirada. 05 team maybe be okay.

The top 04 team in the state is Heat 04. Hell they are the top 03, and 02 teams here. Look at tournament results. When the 04s came to play, every one (meaning LVSA) switched out of the flight of their own tournament @Own Goal .

There was no movement here at tryouts. You can look at last year’s results and see Heat was 2nd in SW conference because they scored 1 goal less than LAFC.
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Actually several 07 and 08 players moved over to Albion from Heat if those are considered "baby goats". One 06 player came over and is probably the only 06 Heat player that would make the 06 Albion team. It's debatable which 04 and 03 team is the best between Heat and LVSA.
 
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