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That's no bueno. Can you give a little more detail on this please?
ECNL vs. DA turf war has created a 'toxic environment'
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That's no bueno. Can you give a little more detail on this please?
VegasParent
SILVER ELITE
We are an affiliate of Albion San Diego. I don't know what you mean about pre academy and waiting on the call. To my knowledge the club applied and was accepted. LVSA applied also and was not accepted. There was a TC here in March.
Justus
GOLD
I remember back in the day when my dds team had the ball 95% of the time. The other team put everyone on defense. I think they called it "10 in the box." They took at least 30 rocket in fire from all the players on our team. Rocket ball shots hit cross bars, sailed over, some actually went in but the stupid ref who was slow and over weight and not paying attention called offsides because from his angle wearing extra big classes he saw offsides. All of us dads and moms saw something else of course. That's how riots are started and huge toxic bait for the forum folks when the winning dads and moms come on here to brag a little. These clowns would go on here and have bragging rights because they knocked off the #1 U9 team in the country at the time in PKs all because our GK went left instead of right and the other GK chose left when we went left. I guess we would never no the truth about these games without the SoCal Soccer Forum. At least in 83, we all saw on TV how you can beat Goliath in basketball with no shot clock. RIP Jimmy V
NorCal
SILVER ELITE
Top NorCal '04 Teams:
MVLA (ECNL)
Quakes (DA)
San Juan (ECNL)
Mustang (ECNL)
Placer (DA)
PSV (NPL)
Clovis (NPL)
Santa Rosa (ECNL)
The WORST tourney my DDs team has ever been to. Horrible fields, worse refs... We went 2 years ago and that was the last. Our coach said enough is enough even though there was great college coach turn out.
Justus
GOLD
So it's more of an application process then and once all the apps from Vegas are in, the Federation takes them and does a quick look over and sets up interviews with all the clubs DOCs to see what club fits the Philosophy the best? I guess Albion won the contract from the Feds and we should all be rooting their players on because they are the future GOATs from Vegas to represent us ALL at the games. I'm sure the Heat FC players are taking that well.
Justus
GOLD
and Goliath I mean Patrick Ewing if anyone was wondering...….I remember back in the day when my dds team had the ball 95% of the time. The other team put everyone on defense. I think they called it "10 in the box." They took at least 30 rocket in fire from all the players on our team. Rocket ball shots hit cross bars, sailed over, some actually went in but the stupid ref who was slow and over weight and not paying attention called offsides because from his angle wearing extra big classes he saw offsides. All of us dads and moms saw something else of course. That's how riots are started and huge toxic bait for the forum folks when the winning dads and moms come on here to brag a little. These clowns would go on here and have bragging rights because they knocked off the #1 U9 team in the country at the time in PKs all because our GK went left instead of right and the other GK chose left when we went left. I guess we would never no the truth about these games without the SoCal Soccer Forum. At least in 83, we all saw on TV how you can beat Goliath in basketball with no shot clock. RIP Jimmy V
Justus
GOLD
Is that in order NoCal for Sept 2019? My dd played the Quakes a year or so ago and we spanked them 2-0. My kid goat got both goals too...….We played MVLA and beat them too and they were the better team IMHO. I see a collectiveness with that bunch. More of a team and not a bunch of players trying to get that one possible elusive spot that might go to a 04' someday on the National Team 10 years from now. I know one that has been playing with 18/19 year olds. She's the only one I know that has a chance at this stage in all the 04 little goat careers.
gotothebushes
GOLD
2 years ago? That was a total difference team. This years 04’s team was actually very strong. I agree with you that Mlva is a pretty strong team too. Your team must be strong to beating MVLA 04.
Which team did your kid play for when you played MVLA? The MVLA 04's have not lost to a Southern California team since the birth year change.
Justus
GOLD
I know the goals don't count either because the DA wouldn't allow the little goats to do playoffs the first year. They had better, more competitive games for us to play. The only two games that mattered to my goat that year was Legends and the Quakes because they they both had 4 goats each on the list she missed out on because she wasn't putting in all the extra work like others. We beat Legends 5-0 and quakes 2-0. She also got the first goal against the 4 chosen players in the first 2 minutes of the big match, Then assisted on the next one about 4 minutes later, scored again and then took a breather at 5-0 in the 2nd half. Great things are our goats did back then. We were #1 until the DA came in and made the games more competitive. My dd saw the writing on the wall and knew right away it was way to physical for her so she decided to go out for the Varsity HS Soccer team as Fr and play with and against Jr and Srs. It was easy on her body too.
Justus
GOLD
You know what, it might have been the Mustangs. I'm trying to go back now and look. I will clarify once I find the box score. My dd had the game of her life too. Anyone with videos of the MLVA Top Nocal team out there or anything on youtube a year and half ago? I didn't know I needed to prove to some of you the goals my little goat scored were amazing and all at the right time too. I know they don't count like the one's in todays league.
NorCal
SILVER ELITE
It wasn't MVLA that you beat...maybe Mustang, they travel to SoCal a lot so that could be a possibility. Quakes went undefeated last year in DA so I'm not sure when you beat them; I know they move some of their 04s around to the older teams from time to time so maybe it was a mixed team when you played them.
MVLA, Quakes and San Juan are the top 3 teams in NorCal for '04. Many would agree that MVLA and Quakes are 1-2 in the Nation for that age group (clubs are about 15 miles apart too). The talent in the '04 age group in Northern California is ridiculous.
Why any team travels outside of SoCal for league games is beyond me. It's a total waste and makes soccer unnecessarily expensive. SoCal clubs need to start throwing around their weight, just as California is now doing with the NCAA. If teams outside of SoCal don't want to come and play us, who cares. We have more than enough competition locally.
outside!
DA
But then the coaches and DOC's wouldn't get free travel to see such garden spots as Frisco Texas and Floriduh.
Justus
GOLD
You guys are ridiculous up there, let me tell you. I agree 100% #1 and #2 are up there Team wise. Down in SoCal we have so many teams you can't see straight. How many DA and ECNL 04 teams do we have total in SoCal? I say we got divided and top goats everywhere spread out looking for the chance to shine in front of the scouts at US Soccer Training Centers in San Diego and other places like the Legends. Take San Jose and surrounding area for example. Quakes and???? You see,they got all the top goats in the area a long time ago. 4 YNT players all going to UCLA. I think that was the De Anza team my dds old Surf team would spank all the time. Beat them 2-0 first year of DA, look it up. My goat scored two goals and the coach from the other team had nice things to say about her too. Really, it was her best game at that point in her young goat career. Trust me on this one. They would come down for friendlies because his coach and my dd coach played against each other as boys I think. I'm guessing they all went DA just because they wanted to......nothing else those players would want at the Quakes? Coach wanted to try the new Euro Philosophy too. He got hooked early on, that's all I can say. His soccer was the best besides our Surf team. He went DA so early it caused his team to be ineligible for the Far West Regionals. Their application was better than all the other clubs I guess? Anyway, the rest of the girls in San Jose and NoCal that didn't make De Anza top team from before went MVLA. Quakes 04' are and has always been numero uno up there based on the DA Championship IMHO, 4 YNT members and all UCLA recruits. Sorry bro #1 is Quakes and MLVA #2. You need to knock them off some how. You have no one up there on THE LIST from MLVA so how on earth could you possible claim to be #1 in NorCal and the rest of the country for that matter. Get over it and look for a way that your team can play them. Don't let DA know though. Friendly game when no one is watching. Vegas is easy. Heat is #1.
Justus
GOLD
"You have NO idea what the rest of the USA deals with day in day out. Have you lived in any other state in the contiguous USA? I have...so I feel far more prepared for this discussion. What’s you real point? You bragged to me how “recruited your DD was. Now want to cry foul about how you were lied to. "
Yes Kicker, I feel lied to if you haven't guessed and I don't think I'm alone. I have only lived by the beach in Cali and Temecula for 10 years. Only SoCa bro. I didn't feel prepared the other night because I only lived in SoCal. Since you lived in so many places across the USA, I would like to see if you would take the time tell us about Ohio and Michigan? I have NV and CA. You report back to the group what you find. I got NV done and NorCal. SoCal is bitch. Anyone want to tell me who 04' #1 team in SoCal is and why?
Yes Kicker, I feel lied to if you haven't guessed and I don't think I'm alone. I have only lived by the beach in Cali and Temecula for 10 years. Only SoCa bro. I didn't feel prepared the other night because I only lived in SoCal. Since you lived in so many places across the USA, I would like to see if you would take the time tell us about Ohio and Michigan? I have NV and CA. You report back to the group what you find. I got NV done and NorCal. SoCal is bitch. Anyone want to tell me who 04' #1 team in SoCal is and why?
I will say, it is nice playing against teams/kids my DD didn’t grow up playing against.
Justus I am so confused what you are so upset about.
1. Surf lied to you that your dd was a unicorn?
2. DA wont let your dd play in their sandbox since she does not want to play DA?
3. Surf DA players play at private high schools including President's kid at Bishops and are therefore working the system?
4. The fact that your dd's glory days as a GOAT are over since you pissed off all of the GOAT parents online here?
5. The fact that your dd's glory days on a winning team are over since you have burned so many bridges?
Everyone please add to my list if you can figure it out.
Stop the dribble about the Surf team being amazing. Surf wanted that 04 team to go all the way due to the Board members kiddos being on the team. They also knew that the hardest competition they would face was in CalSouth. So they recruited players away from other top teams in Southern Cal. They promised families from inland and OC the world to make sure that teams like the Blues, Slammers, West Coast, Arsenal (I am speculating on some of these teams) did not have a nexus of players to beat Surf. This included scholarships to lure players away from their current teams, like your family. At the time I am sure you did not give a crap about any of the players that were being displaced, not because they were not good enough to make the team, but because they needed to make more room for the players they wanted to keep off of other teams. I am also sure you did not give a crap about the families that paid more so you could have a free ride. Scholarships are not always about getting the best players but keeping players from other teams too. While I am sure your dd is a great player, you are also minimizing the contributions of legit players on that team. You reap what you sow.
1. Surf lied to you that your dd was a unicorn?
2. DA wont let your dd play in their sandbox since she does not want to play DA?
3. Surf DA players play at private high schools including President's kid at Bishops and are therefore working the system?
4. The fact that your dd's glory days as a GOAT are over since you pissed off all of the GOAT parents online here?
5. The fact that your dd's glory days on a winning team are over since you have burned so many bridges?
Everyone please add to my list if you can figure it out.
Stop the dribble about the Surf team being amazing. Surf wanted that 04 team to go all the way due to the Board members kiddos being on the team. They also knew that the hardest competition they would face was in CalSouth. So they recruited players away from other top teams in Southern Cal. They promised families from inland and OC the world to make sure that teams like the Blues, Slammers, West Coast, Arsenal (I am speculating on some of these teams) did not have a nexus of players to beat Surf. This included scholarships to lure players away from their current teams, like your family. At the time I am sure you did not give a crap about any of the players that were being displaced, not because they were not good enough to make the team, but because they needed to make more room for the players they wanted to keep off of other teams. I am also sure you did not give a crap about the families that paid more so you could have a free ride. Scholarships are not always about getting the best players but keeping players from other teams too. While I am sure your dd is a great player, you are also minimizing the contributions of legit players on that team. You reap what you sow.
Justus
GOLD
SoCal Top Teams
#1 Surf
#2 Legends FC
#2 South Bay Beach
#3 Slammers FC, LAFC Slammers and the rest of the other 10 teams
I looked at SoCal and tried to come up with an algorithm but it was too hard. I must say we (I) (o4' only) let all the past socal goats down this year. I am truly sorry personally. I would think most of the old timers here would all agree SoCal always had some team at least in the Semi's or Finals at a major National Tournament? No one made it out of the QF from SoCal in the DA in our age group. Gr8t job SoCal, seriously screwed up SoCal supremacy. In 2018 all the top socal goat teams were playing for nothing except to make the 2nd YNT list. No National Championship in 2018 for anyone in 04' in the new DA where all the games will be more competitive. So we have go back to 2017 to find the winners and it's Surf by a long shot. So IMHO, Surf is still #1 in SoCal with Legends and South Bay Beach tied for 2nd. No one could follow us. We passed the ball around like a ping pong and tired them all down. Our coach out smarted the Quakes all the time and it was a big time "dear in head light moment" kind of like Santa Clara did to UCLA the other day. Best game these girls played ever up to that point. You think my dd took the rock through their 4 ynt recruits all by herself and scored two easy goals? Oh no, she played with the two best CM at the time where they made her goals easy. My dd did make good runs and did finish but the passes she got were unbelievable and I say that sincerely. Best passing team ever at 04, hands down. De Anza chickened out or had something better to play for than a National championship.
#1 Surf
#2 Legends FC
#2 South Bay Beach
#3 Slammers FC, LAFC Slammers and the rest of the other 10 teams
I looked at SoCal and tried to come up with an algorithm but it was too hard. I must say we (I) (o4' only) let all the past socal goats down this year. I am truly sorry personally. I would think most of the old timers here would all agree SoCal always had some team at least in the Semi's or Finals at a major National Tournament? No one made it out of the QF from SoCal in the DA in our age group. Gr8t job SoCal, seriously screwed up SoCal supremacy. In 2018 all the top socal goat teams were playing for nothing except to make the 2nd YNT list. No National Championship in 2018 for anyone in 04' in the new DA where all the games will be more competitive. So we have go back to 2017 to find the winners and it's Surf by a long shot. So IMHO, Surf is still #1 in SoCal with Legends and South Bay Beach tied for 2nd. No one could follow us. We passed the ball around like a ping pong and tired them all down. Our coach out smarted the Quakes all the time and it was a big time "dear in head light moment" kind of like Santa Clara did to UCLA the other day. Best game these girls played ever up to that point. You think my dd took the rock through their 4 ynt recruits all by herself and scored two easy goals? Oh no, she played with the two best CM at the time where they made her goals easy. My dd did make good runs and did finish but the passes she got were unbelievable and I say that sincerely. Best passing team ever at 04, hands down. De Anza chickened out or had something better to play for than a National championship.
Justus
GOLD
I agree and we did, believe me. I actually care more than you think.