Parents from certain teams

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  1. espola

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    In my son's first year as a club coach, the referee blew an offside call (keeper and defender were still in the PA after a 50-50 goal kick was won by his midfielder who immediately pumped the ball about 20 yards forward to his open teammate - tweet - arm in air). My son pointed at the opponents and said loud enough for the referee to hear "One - Two". The referee waved him off and warned him to be quiet about it. The AR on his side was someone he knew from high school coaching days, so they had a laugh about it.
     
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    I have no problem reading. You've made it perfectly clear what type of person you are and I completely agree with Baldref. ^
     
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    During the last and this World Cup the favorite line by obnoxious parents seems to be he/she is “pulling a Neymar.” Unless you have medical training and are examing the child, you do not have the right to say anything about a child that is down.

    However there was a flopper on my son’s team years ago and the ref pulled him aside and told him that he needed a hobby because he was watching too much of the World Cup. Even the boy’s dad had to laugh.
     
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    Thinking about this post, when is it ever allowed to sit behind the goal? In fact when is it even allowed to sit anywhere between the corner flag and goal? Unless you mean that you are 20 feet away and up a hill???? Just curious on whether this is a rule or a custom. Refs seem to be all over the board on this issue.
     
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    A ref will usually clear this out if they notice it. But they are usually focused on the game. It typically takes a coach to complain about it. Which then causes more tension on the sidelines because “your coach is a snitch”.

    Same thing with kids running around out there with earrings/nose rings. Refs don’t always catch it. But when a player or coach notifies a ref about it, all hell can break loose.

    If everyone would just follow rules and use common sense, things would be a lot more pleasant out there.
     
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    I usually stand between the goal and corner flag to take photos. I back up a few steps back if the action is coming closer to me.

    I was told once by our coach that supposedly no one should be standing behind the goal lines. But I keep my mouth shut and don't cheer at all while standing there, and no refs have ever asked me to leave. The key is don't draw attention to yourself.
     
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    If you’re not a distraction in any way, I’m ok with it.
     
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    I haven't noticed too much flopping over the year. There are some kids that just go down easier than others but every once in a while, you find one that you just have to giggle at.
    I didn't catch all of it so you really had to be there but whenever someone mentions flopping I think of this:


    Kid got a couple good rolls in the end and was upset the play continued
     
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    This thread has branched in so many directions its almost comical.

    I typically film our games (more for the parents than the kids). Occasionally I have to set up between the benches depending on the suns position. I've never had anyone complain but I make it a point to greet the coach on the other team and if he(she) asks, I offer up a link to the game when I'm done.
    If shes able to make it, my wife will take pictures from the sidelines including from behind the net. She doesn't "set up" and doesn't stay too long in one place. I don't recall her ever being asked to move by a ref.
    We did have a keeper coach get asked to move during a single ref scrimmage. I did find that a bit odd as the point of a scrimmage is to practice and learn but I do get it.
     
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    I guess my question should be more specific as I think all reasonable people agree that respectful people are not the issue.

    But when derogatory remarks are made when sitting on the other sides half and the team manager gets the offenders manager what is the correct response?
    1. You can stay here if you keep quiet.(yes a manger recently said this after the derogatory remarks were made).
    2. You can stay here as long as your derogatory remarks are not directly to the other team’s parents (yes I have had an AR tell me this when asked to remove a known bad parent before the game started).
    3. Just move on the other side of the corner flag and you can do what you want including coaching (yes a manager said this).
    4. Yelling cross, watch #14, pass it to x, watch offsides, push up etc is not coaching and therefore is allowed. ( parents and managers said this was ok because everyone does it).
     
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    For the record I have had some very enjoyable conversations with parents that have sat on our side. It is all about the attitude.
     
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    Typically it’s not. But it’s where you position yourself and if you remain quiet. It also depends upon the facility. Silver Lakes, Galway Downs, So Cal Complex are very good locations to sit behind the nets as those are used for foot traffic. Therfore you do go unnoticed. I also sit about 15 yards off the end line at an angle near the corner post.
     
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    I film all of our games , Ive done hundreds of them. I have filmed on coaches sides and parents sides. Personally I prefer coaches sides because parents are out of control.
    The losing parents (about 70% of the time) are louder and more vocal .
    The winning parents (about 20% of the time) are obnoxious sometimes. Maybe their just overly excited , lets call it that.
    Ive never have had a ref ask me to move, and I always ask coaches if I can be on their side due to sun facing camera.....no one has ever said no, but then again Im filming and Im quiet (80% of the time:))
    I film other games when people ask.....hit me up if you need a game (my plug) as a hobby and see all types of parents in the OC/LA area and no matter what city, what club, etc......... We are all a bit loud,
    and when you hear yourself on the video, that tends to cure the loud parents because they get embarrassed because the camera picks up everything....
    I personally delete the negative from my games , because I dont want my son reliving negative situations like parents fighting, coaches cursing, etc......red cards stay but if its a fight or something not suitable for a 10 yr old its gone.....

    Its common courtesy really, Ive seen people get upset because the ref asked them to move back from the sideline, or because other parents asked them to sit on their own team side....
    I believe that if you come into the situation already gunning for a fight its ugly from the start ,.... but if a parent just kindly ask me to move, and Im in their space or side, 100% Im gonna move because its their team side and Im not on that team.....period.

    There are some unruly parents, but the ratio is small, alot of us know the game and really look forward to watching our kids play a beautiful sport!! Dont let some bad apples ruin your Saturday.........
     
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    Unless the gaming rules say otherwise, I don't care if you sit behind the goal line as long as you are at least a reasonable distance (10 yards) back. Now, if someone behind the goal is annoying or coaching the keeper then I will move them. Most big tournaments have a steady stream of people walking behind the goal line, teams warming up and spectators watching the game. It is normally not a big deal.
     
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    AYSO's gaming rules are specific about not allowing spectators behind the goals; I don't recall seeing any such rules in CSL or SCDSL (only which sidelines teams/parents should take).
     
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    Most of the videos are about how great he is for doing this; very little action.
     
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    I am in complete support of what this guy is doing with his Facebook page. Cal South and all clubs have a coach and parent code of conduct that is rarely followed. If clubs would hold the few unruly parents accountable for their inappropriate behavior, we would not have parents yelling at the referees. The even fewer coaches, that most referees know, that yell non-stop at the referees should be sanctioned by their clubs. I was glad to hear at a referee training session a couple months ago that Cal South does not want us to put up with any of the inappropriate comments and deal with the coaches and parents early. I had a coach this past weekend that was a complete douche bag and had to go through the Ask and Tell process before he would shut up. The Tell consisted of me saying, "Please coach, I do not want to hear any comments about the referee crews performance. The last thing I want to do is throw you out of the game and end the game. The only ones that would hurt are your players that are working hard to maintain their one goal lead." I think what made it sink in for the coach was one of his players (U14 girl) said, "If he throws you out do we lose even though we are winning?"

    Parents and coaches just need to do their job, Parents cheer and coaches coach.
     
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