NoGoal
DA
Wrong again, parents did put 8th grade ODP on their players resume. You don't know being a ulittle parent. College coaches recruit the best players at 9th grade. #naive
Cal South 2004 Player Pool Announced
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NoGoal
DA
The same parents who complained, were sour and hating on ODP because their DDs didn't make the team use to say, ODP doesn't matter anymore....because of ECNL....is laughable. The only thing Girls DA does is give the girls who didn't get an invite or got cut at tyouts a fighting chance to be recruited by the top schools.
Just know, the same girls who stood out at the ODP tryouts will also stand-out at Girls DA games/showcases when college coaches are evaluating. They will also standout at college camps when they wait for it, wait of it.....play full field scrimmages!
Just know, the same girls who stood out at the ODP tryouts will also stand-out at Girls DA games/showcases when college coaches are evaluating. They will also standout at college camps when they wait for it, wait of it.....play full field scrimmages!
MakeAPlay
DA
Stop spilling the beans. Let people be surprised. It's better that way!
MakeAPlay
DA
My daughters scholarship offer (a SIGNIFICANT one to a top school) came after the ODP region IV championships. The competition at regionals and nationals is only surpassed by YNT camps and that is the truth.
ESPNANALYST
SILVER ELITE
Aware. Also aware that from 2010-2017 the cream of the crop also were ECNL which allowed for ODP and your player pool was much more centralized due to four main ECNL squads. The depth of the teams was significant.
This isn't accurate any longer.
Comparing the 99 girls to the 2004 girls is apples to oranges.
ESPNANALYST
SILVER ELITE
One more thing- on our 2004 list we have well over 20 plus flight two players. 20. I would be interested to see the ODP list of the 98-99 girls and see if your list had 20 plus B team players on it? I don't think it did. I can recall very clearly never looking at those lists and being shocked
NoGoal
DA
Huh? 4 main ECNL squads? ODP started before U14 ECNL. It still doesn't change the fact the girls who made the 2003 and 2004 ODP teams (top 18) will most likely than not still be the top players at Girls DA. To think otherwise is hopeful thinking.
NoGoal
DA
I would also challenge you to print the girls who made the 2003/2004 ODP team, not YOP (1st yr), but Pro+/ODP team. I will bet even with Girls DA. Those girls will be recruited and committed 1st to the top Universities.
You continue to apply history to the future ignoring the fact the landscape has changed since your DD was at this age.
NoGoal
DA
Look bro. I got my DD committed the unconventional way.... I wasn't a sheep who let my DD be hearded on a U14 ECNL team. She didn't play ECNL full-time until U16. Where as all these "so called" top starting players were playing on U14 ECNL teams. Looking back, it's laughable parents drinking the Kool-Aid that playing U14 ECNL (substitute for U14 Girls DA) that their DDs were the best. These were the same posters/parents talking trash about ODP when their DDs never got an invite or their DD's got cut. Exactly like a few 2004 parents in this thread are doing now.
Unless your DD (which I have no ide, if she is or NOT) has already made the ODP 2003 or 2004 team (top 18) or called into a U14/15 YNT camp. You are one of those parents (refer to above) who think, my DD is playing U14 Girls DA. She will have her pick of top universities. Well, sorry.....good luck with that hope and prayer. It ain't happening, you better hope she is still playing and doesn't get burned out practicing 4-5 days a week on her club team. If she doesn't play a lot...double whammy!
MakeAPlay
DA
You are spot on. My player wasn't on a top 4 ECNL team. Some posters don't realize that the recruit PLAYERS not teams.
NoGoal
DA
Where the vast majority in here are sheep and will be playing girls DA...U13, U14 whatever age this coming fall. You better hope a stud non-DA player doesn't walk on in the next 1-2 years and pushes your little Marta to the bench. Believe me it's going to happen to many here.
This is what I would do, if I had another DD and she made the ODP team in this age group. I would sit down with here and inform her to play either on the B team or non-Girls DA club (as long as the coach was great at developing a youth player). This way she is still playing for the fun and love of the game at the same time building up her player resume with ODP individual accolades. By U16 (HS Sophomore) move her to a Girls DA team. She will then be playing on a Girls DA team and have ODP accolades on her player resume. This will attract college coaches and I guarantee they will watch her play.
This is what I would do, if I had another DD and she made the ODP team in this age group. I would sit down with here and inform her to play either on the B team or non-Girls DA club (as long as the coach was great at developing a youth player). This way she is still playing for the fun and love of the game at the same time building up her player resume with ODP individual accolades. By U16 (HS Sophomore) move her to a Girls DA team. She will then be playing on a Girls DA team and have ODP accolades on her player resume. This will attract college coaches and I guarantee they will watch her play.
MakeAPlay
DA
And you keep making ASSumptions. You know what they say about that. I just watched the U13 National Cup final and none if those players play fast enough to be recruited by a top 10 school. Improvement in speed of play is needed all around. And the better team lost. Go figure.
NoGoal
DA
Are you asking for the ODP Summer player pool list with 120 pool players or final ODP state team player list (final 18)?
ESPNANALYST
SILVER ELITE
Our final 18 this year will have lesser players because our best will be in DA.
Our final 18 from 2016 is in DA- I know 13 personally will have to ask about the other 5.
Our final 18 from 2016 is in DA- I know 13 personally will have to ask about the other 5.
I have two dds that have not made ODP once and are going academy. Do I think going academy is the end all be all no but at this time it is what is best for my girls. My girls were good enough to be on a top flight 1 team since U9 and have done very well...do I feel my girls are as good as some of those girls on the odp list heck yes but I actually think not getting picked is motivating my girls to want to get better. Up till now they have played high level club volleyball as well as club soccer and I did everything I could to make sure they didn't get burned out in soccer. I know they are a little behind technically but I also know you can't teach athleticism and heart which mine have. I have chosen DA for them because at this point they know they need extra practice with the ball at their feet and they have chosen to hang up the volleyball sneakers and play soccer full time. With the extra practice days for DA this is perfect for my girls. They are still in jr high so high school soccer isn't a concern at this point and our academy is funded so to me if they don't play a lot this next year I am ok with it. Every year I will reevaluate what is best for my dds and go from there. I think there are quite a few people in the same boat as me. I know on our Slammers team we had a lot of two star athletes on that team and all I can say is look out when these girls start getting multiple practices a week with a couple great trainers.
MAP, based on some of the comments I have read on this forum it is obvious that your DD is a heck of a player but I don't think just because your DD is at a top school that makes you an expert and able to tell us who is good enough and who isn't. I played in college myself but I don't profess to be able to tell at the age of 12 who plays fast enough and who doesn't. I can tell you this, the big center mid from Surf is one heck of a player and there are a few other players on that team that can ball.
NoGoal
DA
That's a no brainer, of course your final 18 from 2016 will most likely be playing DA. As I posted, those girls are the BLUE CHIPPERS and will most likely receive YNT invites. They will also commit by their HS Freshmen or Sophomore year. The Blue Chippers are already on the top college coaches recruiting boards.
As for question to MAP, did the 1999 ODP player pool list of 120-125 players have questionable girls on the list, of course. The ODP scouts are evaluating players from CRL, State Cup (B team players) and National Cup. How does a B team player make the list where as a starting A team player doesn't. Easy, the B team player or player playing in State Cup is probably the teams go to player, who makes things happen in the game. Where as the A team starting roll player at National Cup (doesn't stand out) and feeds the ball to the impact player on her team who ends up getting the ODP invite.
Your player also aged out, yet your still here....why?
Your delusions are not mine...and I'm not your bro!