GIRLS DAII

[mahrez]

Wow, talk about a tangled web that's been weaved. Comes down this copy cat like web site complete with a fake press release run by sd clubs as a presido division.

LAG not funding or planning on participating, RSC might partially, others only some of the the age groups so these probable 6-8 team dpl divisions playing in LA, SD, & two states seem to go against the Presido charter and don't offer any real benefits.

 

[dreamz]

Wow, talk about a tangled web that's been weaved. Comes down this copy cat like web site complete with a fake press release run by sd clubs as a presido division.

LAG not funding or planning on participating, RSC might partially, others only some of the the age groups so these probable 6-8 team dpl divisions playing in LA, SD, & two states seem to go against the Presido charter and don't offer any real benefits.

Info from the Presidio members meeting last night has it that the membership voted against the DP division by a large margin. So no DPD in Presidio. Sounds like the bozo brigade stood up to plead a case with nothing substantial to offer to anyone outside of their exclusive circus other than the opportunity to play their B teams in scrimmages and "priority" not guaranteed, entry in to their meaningless showcase events, like November Nights. WOW! Such a carrot! Meaning, vote for the DPD in Presidio and we'll still say no to you playing in our sandbox. One bozo even mentioned that DPD would "allow the DA clubs to cast a wider net" over the players in Presidio, meaning if you vote for DPD we'll have even more power to recruit your players thank you very much.

Sounds like the Presidio members saw through the smoke and mirrors and saw what a scam this is. Now if only the parents could see the scam.

My guess is that the DA clubs are charging higher fees for being a player on a DA2 team which helps finance their DA teams. Without DA2, these are regular teams and therefore, no reason to charge higher fees. They are trying to sell something, that is nothing, for more money. Nice, quality people running the bozo brigade.

One of the other things mentioned last night was the "national interest" in the DA2 program. People, take a look at the DA conferences nationwide. In whose right mind does ANY conference look like a good decision for B teams to play in a DA2 league with all of the travel that would be involved nationwide? B teams need the most bang for every buck they spend. When they pay to travel, they need to maximize the college exposure. Not travel, by plane, to play 1 game that potentially costs $300-$500 for no exposure. Waste of money. The travel will be hard enough on the DA players much less the B team players.

Make your $$ count towards something. This fake scam of a division isn't worth it.

 

[dreamz]

Money Grab...

Info from the Presidio members meeting last night has it that the membership voted against the DP division by a large margin. So no DPD in Presidio. Sounds like the bozo brigade stood up to plead a case with nothing substantial to offer to anyone outside of their exclusive circus other than the opportunity to play their B teams in scrimmages and "priority" not guaranteed, entry in to their meaningless showcase events, like November Nights. WOW! Such a carrot! Meaning, vote for the DPD in Presidio and we'll still say no to you playing in our sandbox. One bozo even mentioned that DPD would "allow the DA clubs to cast a wider net" over the players in Presidio, meaning if you vote for DPD we'll have even more power to recruit your players thank you very much.

Sounds like the Presidio members saw through the smoke and mirrors and saw what a scam this is. Now if only the parents could see the scam.

My guess is that the DA clubs are charging higher fees for being a player on a DA2 team which helps finance their DA teams. Without DA2, these are regular teams and therefore, no reason to charge higher fees. They are trying to sell something, that is nothing, for more money. Nice, quality people running the bozo brigade.

One of the other things mentioned last night was the "national interest" in the DA2 program. People, take a look at the DA conferences nationwide. In whose right mind does ANY conference look like a good decision for B teams to play in a DA2 league with all of the travel that would be involved nationwide? B teams need the most bang for every buck they spend. When they pay to travel, they need to maximize the college exposure. Not travel, by plane, to play 1 game that potentially costs $300-$500 for no exposure. Waste of money. The travel will be hard enough on the DA players much less the B team players.

Make your $$ count towards something. This fake scam of a division isn't worth it.

 

[IntheknowSoccer]

False

Surf
Slammers
Strikers
Blues
West coast
Arsenal
Sharks

These are SoCal ECNL teams next year along with the Vegas and AZ teams

Real and Eagles had a choice between DA and ECNL. They chose DA

It was not about choice re: RSC/Eagles and ECNL vs DA. Remember, both RSC and Eagles were already members of the DA for boys. They were then thrown out of ECNL because they chose not to let their boys play ECNL.

 

[younothat]

Info from the Presidio members meeting last night has it that the membership voted against the DP division by a large margin. So no DPD in Presidio. Sounds like the bozo brigade stood up to plead a case with nothing substantial to offer to anyone outside of their exclusive circus other than the opportunity to play their B teams in scrimmages and "priority" not guaranteed, entry in to their meaningless showcase events, like November Nights. WOW! Such a carrot! Meaning, vote for the DPD in Presidio and we'll still say no to you playing in our sandbox. One bozo even mentioned that DPD would "allow the DA clubs to cast a wider net" over the players in Presidio, meaning if you vote for DPD we'll have even more power to recruit your players thank you very much.

Sounds like the Presidio members saw through the smoke and mirrors and saw what a scam this is. Now if only the parents could see the scam.
My guess is that the DA clubs are charging higher fees for being a player on a DA2 team which helps finance their DA teams. Without DA2, these are regular teams and therefore, no reason to charge higher fees. They are trying to sell something, that is nothing, for more money. Nice, quality people running the bozo brigade.

One of the other things mentioned last night was the "national interest" in the DA2 program. People, take a look at the DA conferences nationwide. In whose right mind does ANY conference look like a good decision for B teams to play in a DA2 league with all of the travel that would be involved nationwide? B teams need the most bang for every buck they spend. When they pay to travel, they need to maximize the college exposure. Not travel, by plane, to play 1 game that potentially costs $300-$500 for no exposure. Waste of money. The travel will be hard enough on the DA players much less the B team players.

Make your $$ count towards something. This fake scam of a division isn't worth it.

Wow, turning into a tragic comedy or something?

 

[Dos Equis]

It was not about choice re: RSC/Eagles and ECNL vs DA. Remember, both RSC and Eagles were already members of the DA for boys. They were then thrown out of ECNL because they chose not to let their boys play ECNL.

The competing narrative that came out of the ECNL general meeting in February was only clubs who had won an ECNL National Championship would be allowed to compete in both ECNL and DA, all others had to choose.

Perhaps you can refute this argument by listing what years/age groups Eagles or Arsenal won ECNL National Championships. I honestly do not have that history, nor could I find it quickly on the web.

 

[Dos Equis]

Wow, turning into a tragic comedy or something?

They could register as an NPL under US Club Soccer. A few years back, both SCDSL and CSL ran competing NPL division for girls in Socal, in the early years of ECNL, when everyone was panicking and no one knew what the non-ECNL, post-CSL Premier future would look like. Both those leagues faded away.

Of course, that means no USYS State/National Cup, but they could compete in US CLub Soccer Nationals. Then they truly would be separate, and never have to be held be accountable or compete with a single team from Socal in "games that matter."

 

[Porkchop]

Info from the Presidio members meeting last night has it that the membership voted against the DP division by a large margin. So no DPD in Presidio. Sounds like the bozo brigade stood up to plead a case with nothing substantial to offer to anyone outside of their exclusive circus other than the opportunity to play their B teams in scrimmages and "priority" not guaranteed, entry in to their meaningless showcase events, like November Nights. WOW! Such a carrot! Meaning, vote for the DPD in Presidio and we'll still say no to you playing in our sandbox. One bozo even mentioned that DPD would "allow the DA clubs to cast a wider net" over the players in Presidio, meaning if you vote for DPD we'll have even more power to recruit your players thank you very much.

Sounds like the Presidio members saw through the smoke and mirrors and saw what a scam this is. Now if only the parents could see the scam.

My guess is that the DA clubs are charging higher fees for being a player on a DA2 team which helps finance their DA teams. Without DA2, these are regular teams and therefore, no reason to charge higher fees. They are trying to sell something, that is nothing, for more money. Nice, quality people running the bozo brigade.

One of the other things mentioned last night was the "national interest" in the DA2 program. People, take a look at the DA conferences nationwide. In whose right mind does ANY conference look like a good decision for B teams to play in a DA2 league with all of the travel that would be involved nationwide? B teams need the most bang for every buck they spend. When they pay to travel, they need to maximize the college exposure. Not travel, by plane, to play 1 game that potentially costs $300-$500 for no exposure. Waste of money. The travel will be hard enough on the DA players much less the B team players.

Make your $$ count towards something. This fake scam of a division isn't worth it.

so the Boys DA have the Pre-Academy?

 

[Porkchop]

It was not about choice re: RSC/Eagles and ECNL vs DA. Remember, both RSC and Eagles were already members of the DA for boys. They were then thrown out of ECNL because they chose not to let their boys play ECNL.

Eagles has no DA for Boys- Santa Barbara & Real Do?

 

[soccerobserver]

DreamZ....absolutely hilarious post!!!!

"Sounds like the bozo brigade stood up to plead a case with nothing substantial to offer to anyone outside of their exclusive circus other than the opportunity to play their B teams in scrimmages and "priority" not guaranteed, entry in to their meaningless showcase events, like November Nights. WOW! Such a carrot!"

"They are trying to sell something, that is nothing, for more money. Nice, quality people running the bozo brigade."

 

[zags77]

You have to think another league like CSL or SCDSL would entertain hosting the DA2. Hearing a lot families have paid and put down $$ already for their DA2 spot....

 

[glen_dandy]

You have to think another league like CSL or SCDSL would entertain hosting the DA2. Hearing a lot families have paid and put down $$ already for their DA2 spot....

I've heard that the tension is between the Cal South rule that leagues must have open application, and the Academy clubs wanting a league for their B teams only.

The Academy B teams are free to form their own league any time, but then those players will not be carded for tournaments/college showcases and also are ineligible for State Cup. This leaves the Academy B teams playing each nine times in the fall and nine times in the spring. That's it. No showcases, no tournaments, no draw for college coaches.

Which leaves the Academy B teams with the option of joining SCDSL or CSL. Which they don't want because how do they sell that to their players who could play on the A team for a non-Academy club? Or on an ECNL team?

 

[dreamz]

You have to think another league like CSL or SCDSL would entertain hosting the DA2. Hearing a lot families have paid and put down $$ already for their DA2 spot....

CSL or SCDSL taking on the DPD would be soccer suicide. Just like with the Presidio group, what member, that is not in this exclusive group, would be ok with their league doing this? There would be a mass revolt and clubs fleeing for the alternative league. CSL could do it because they aren't a member based league, they make all the decisions for everyone in the league regardless of what the clubs may think about a certain subject, but this DPD would go against their main principles of promotion/relegation because no one can promote in to or relegate out of this exclusive division. They also can't afford to lose what's left of the good clubs that they have. I'm sure the other CSL clubs would be super happy to support that. NOT.
I'm told SCDSL already passed on DA2.
I was also told that at the Presidio meeting last night the Presidio President said CSL would run DPD if Presidio membership voted it down so maybe CSL is considering it. But again, soccer suicide.

 

[Kicknit22]

Just out of curiosity, what would be the issue with another Division in CSL? There will still be the Premier Division. Seems like a good fit. 10 teams- DPL Division. Is it the idea that there is "hypothetically " a higher division than Premier, that would appear to be exclusive? Seriously, who gives a rats ass? It's a fall league.

 

[soccerobserver]

Maybe CSL and Scdsl should just merge and fold in GDA2 somewhere. Two weekends ago a silver elite team defeated a tier 1 team w a decent record for Presidents Cup Championship at u18-19. This highlights the fact that there is a need for consolidation since there are not enough teams to fill all the leagues and have a decent experience for the families who are below DA and ecnl but above the average team.

 

[Kicknit22]

Maybe CSL and Scdsl should just merge and fold in GDA2 somewhere. Two weekends ago a silver elite team defeated a tier 1 team w a decent record for Presidents Cup Championship at u18-19. This highlights the fact that there is a need for consolidation since there are not enough teams to fill all the leagues and have a decent experience for the families who are below DA and ecnl but above the average team.

Couldn't agree more, S-O. Too bad ego's get in the way of doing what's best sometimes. But, on the other hand, the the threads arguing which league is better would no longer exist, lol. I already cancelled the newspaper. I needs my reading material.

 

[Kicknit22]

I know.......get a life, right?

 

[Kicknit22]

Info from the Presidio members meeting last night has it that the membership voted against the DP division by a large margin. So no DPD in Presidio. Sounds like the bozo brigade stood up to plead a case with nothing substantial to offer to anyone outside of their exclusive circus other than the opportunity to play their B teams in scrimmages and "priority" not guaranteed, entry in to their meaningless showcase events, like November Nights. WOW! Such a carrot! Meaning, vote for the DPD in Presidio and we'll still say no to you playing in our sandbox. One bozo even mentioned that DPD would "allow the DA clubs to cast a wider net" over the players in Presidio, meaning if you vote for DPD we'll have even more power to recruit your players thank you very much.

Sounds like the Presidio members saw through the smoke and mirrors and saw what a scam this is. Now if only the parents could see the scam.

My guess is that the DA clubs are charging higher fees for being a player on a DA2 team which helps finance their DA teams. Without DA2, these are regular teams and therefore, no reason to charge higher fees. They are trying to sell something, that is nothing, for more money. Nice, quality people running the bozo brigade.

One of the other things mentioned last night was the "national interest" in the DA2 program. People, take a look at the DA conferences nationwide. In whose right mind does ANY conference look like a good decision for B teams to play in a DA2 league with all of the travel that would be involved nationwide? B teams need the most bang for every buck they spend. When they pay to travel, they need to maximize the college exposure. Not travel, by plane, to play 1 game that potentially costs $300-$500 for no exposure. Waste of money. The travel will be hard enough on the DA players much less the B team players.

Make your $$ count towards something. This fake scam of a division isn't worth it.

What is all this travel you are talking about DREAMZ?

 

[dreamz]

What is all this travel you are talking about DREAMZ?

Look at the DA conferences across the country and the travel for conferences other than SoCal. Look at the cluster of clubs that is the Southwest conference then check out the clubs involved in every other conference in the country with multiple states in each conference. This type of travel is a stretch for the regular DA teams and will be difficult enough. It's not sustainable for a nationwide DA2 "league" which is what is being promoted by the bozo brigade. The type of money needed to travel for league games for B teams is better used going to college showcase events, not traveling for meaningless games to play clubs 3 states and a plane ride away. This DA2 thing is not anything that can be implemented nationally even though that's what parents are being told by the SoCal DA2 peeps.

 

[dreamz]

What is all this travel you are talking about DREAMZ?

And one more point. Eliminate the clubs on the DA map that have both DA and ECNL because the DPD gang doesn't want them to be able to play in the sandbox either. So no Slammers, Blues, Surf or West Coast in the SoCal DPD and then take those DA/ECNL clubs out of the rest of the country too because they aren't allowed in this exclusive division. So that leaves how many clubs traveling how far to play each other's B teams in a league that doesn't exist?