San Diego is about to fall back in the purple. IIRC correctly yesterday their case count came in at 7.9 and they need to be under 7. IIUC its being driven by an outbreak at SDSU-- 22 positive cases yesterday. The way the math works, unless the next week comes radically under, San Diego will be in the purple. This has a few implications: 1. it shows how darn sensitive and near impossible the CA color scheme is....if you have the basic community spread and then even a low level event like SDSU or the VC jail outbreak you'll be tipped back over and everything closes. Cases (particularly in the north of the state) will rise in flu season even if they can start to roll out a vaccine in December. 2. So much for San Diego schools, going to school then closing them again constantly is going to be really disruptive for kids including mentally and emotionally 3. Some businesses are already talking about defying the order...say they can't operate constantly pingponging from restrictions to no restrictions. 4. Nail in the coffin for the soccer season if it happens. SD has been the ones pushing for reopening the hardest. If they get purpled I can't imagine the health authorities say just say "Oh o.k. go ahead and have a full contact sport in a county we just closed back up"
Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!
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The players on the USC football team released a letter Tuesday asking for California Gov. Gavin Newsom to allow them to return to the practice field. College football teams in California have been barred from returning to full-contact practices due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic that has affected the country. Let’s find a way to say ‘yes!’ Please let us play.” Trojan players. Pretty, pretty please with sugar on top............
City of Anaheim calls on Newsom to reopen Disneyland after $100 million budget shortfall
Dad from OC, "Please, please and extra pretty please allow the kids to plays sports. Please dont tease the kids with stupid colors and BS!!!!"
City of Anaheim calls on Newsom to reopen Disneyland after $100 million budget shortfall
Dad from OC, "Please, please and extra pretty please allow the kids to plays sports. Please dont tease the kids with stupid colors and BS!!!!"
I hope everyone has a, "Wonderful Wednesday" today. Remember the Three Ws of life.
1) Wake Up
2) Work
3) Win
When you get older, you live the three Rs
1) Rest
2) Relax
3) Reward
P.S. I hear vaccine might be on its way and I hear it will be FREE!!!!!. It would be cool to make soccer free for young kids under 8. Local rec leagues in every city. Kids need to be outside. Isolation=depression imo..........
1) Wake Up
2) Work
3) Win
When you get older, you live the three Rs
1) Rest
2) Relax
3) Reward
P.S. I hear vaccine might be on its way and I hear it will be FREE!!!!!. It would be cool to make soccer free for young kids under 8. Local rec leagues in every city. Kids need to be outside. Isolation=depression imo..........
Hello???? Anyone home? Let's get the games going for the kids. Isolation is evil!!!! Please, please let the kids play. Big Ten is on. It's a miracle!!!
Big Ten announces return of 2020 college football season, after postponing due to coronavirus
The season will begin on the weekend of Oct. 23-24
"Our goal has always been to return to competition so all student-athletes can realize their dream of competing in the sports they love. We are incredibly grateful for the collaborative work that our Return to Competition Task Force have accomplished to ensure the health, safety and wellness of student-athletes, coaches and administrators.”
Big Ten announces return of 2020 college football season, after postponing due to coronavirus
The season will begin on the weekend of Oct. 23-24
"Our goal has always been to return to competition so all student-athletes can realize their dream of competing in the sports they love. We are incredibly grateful for the collaborative work that our Return to Competition Task Force have accomplished to ensure the health, safety and wellness of student-athletes, coaches and administrators.”
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Desert Hound
DA
At some point people are going to wake up and realize we are going to have to live with this. It is not going away, nor is it going away anytime soon.
As Fauci said we are looking at end of 2021 or early 2022 before we might get close to normal again according to what they want to do.
We are moving into fall and flu season and likely covid comes back again. Based on the way CA and a lot of states want to do things, that means increasing restrictions again.
School on and off
Biz some open (partially), some not allowed
Etc
We cannot continue on like this.
Do you still feel this way? Vaccine is coming sooner rather then laters brah!!! Follow the rules and be a good example so when you want others to follow your rules, they have to. It's simple actually if you think about it. Big Ten is balling now too. I predict California will have ball in the fall and next Spring. That is where I stand today. I hope I'm right and I hope your wrong. Somewhere in da middle works for me too
We can. And we will. We’re stupid like that.
I want us to close dangerous places, like restaurants, so that we reduce Rt and the disease can’t spread. We won’t do that.
You want us to open it all up, get sick, and recover. We won’t do that, either.
Instead, we will open up halfway, but not by risk. We will make decisions based on political power and sales tax. We’ll close the cheap things, like outdoor parks. And open the expensive things, like amusement parks, theaters, motorcycle rallies, and casinos.
Then we’ll pretend to be surprised when our numbers get worse after we open Disneyland.
We’re stupid like that.
Disney world in Florida has been open for over a month. Did the numbers get worse? Since we're making assumptions, lets look at what really happened.
I’m not sure we know. Given the size of the spike in Florida and the percentage of out of state guests, would you even notice an extra 200 cases per day coming out of Orlando? Especially if 150 of them don’t get tested until they get back home?
We knew that Sturgis was a stupid idea a month before it happened. We didn’t have to actually do it to find out.
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San Diego is going to close because of a spike of 22 cases in a college. Ventura County because of an outbreak in the jail. California's test is that sensitive.
Even a moderate outbreak of employees at Disneyland will be enough to close up the OC and schools again under the tests. DW in Florida only works because Florida decided to accept the risk. We are opening Disneyland but California isn't prepared to accept the risk, which is a recipe for disaster and recriminations. Disneyland is also worse than Disneyworld because Disneyland is a park geared primarily to locals, while Disneyworld is primarily built for tourists (who would take their counts home, not to Orlando)
San Jose is keeping colleges closed, pretty much for that reason. If you open colleges, you will get parties, and you will get outbreaks. Double that if you have frats. So we chose just to keep it closed. (or the supes chose for us.)
Desert Hound
DA
The funny thing is AZ has opened up our universities. Did so early Aug.
Our bars and restaurants have been up and running for a long time.
Our kids have been playing sports since early August end of July.
A number of schools have been open now for some time with full classrooms.
And yet we see cases continue to decline. We see deaths continue to decline.
WDW has been open for 2 months, daily virus cases in Florida dropped from a high of 15000 on July 12 to 3000 per day now.
Largest U.S. theme parks report no COVID-19 outbreaks since reopening
No outbreaks have been reported at Disney, Universal, SeaWorld, Busch Gardens, Six Flags, Legoland and Cedar Fair parks in Florida, Texas, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Ohio, New Jersey, Virginia and Mic…
www.ocregister.com
Understand they opened with distance and mask requirements, as well as reduced crowds. So if people are required to follow rules and they actually follow the rules, things can open and cases can drop.
And you have twice as many deaths per capita. You keep forgetting to mention that part. Your state killed thousands of elderly residents so you could have beer and pizza in the restaurant.
If you think a high death rate is inevitable, the offer to bet a case of IPA is still open. If CA ever matches or passes AZ in covid deaths per capita, I’ll buy you a case of IPA. If the vaccine comes first, you buy me a case.
notintheface
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"Students are strongly urged to shelter in place from 9/14 through 9/29."
Desert Hound
DA
OK here is some food for thought.
1. What is interesting to see is how W. Europe has done vs E. Europe.
2. I doubt anyone thinks that in general E Europe has better medical care, more efficient governments in terms of setting policies, etc. And yet look at how much better they have done vs W Europe. Or maybe it is more accurate to say how differently the virus acted in that region vs W Europe.
Have they done better in terms of response? Or do other factors make the difference? I lean heavily towards other reasons. Climate, populations (some immunity, etc). For reference take a look at Africa as well. Experts assumed they would be hammered and yet that has not come to pass.
It seems the virus acts differently depending on region, climate, population more so vs what the gov have actually done.
It is interesting to see on the Euro continent how differently the virus affected different regions.
Western Europe
177,947 deaths
413,461,656 population
Deaths 430 per million
Eastern Europe
36,058 deaths
331,085,712 population
Deaths 109 per million
1. What is interesting to see is how W. Europe has done vs E. Europe.
2. I doubt anyone thinks that in general E Europe has better medical care, more efficient governments in terms of setting policies, etc. And yet look at how much better they have done vs W Europe. Or maybe it is more accurate to say how differently the virus acted in that region vs W Europe.
Have they done better in terms of response? Or do other factors make the difference? I lean heavily towards other reasons. Climate, populations (some immunity, etc). For reference take a look at Africa as well. Experts assumed they would be hammered and yet that has not come to pass.
It seems the virus acts differently depending on region, climate, population more so vs what the gov have actually done.
It is interesting to see on the Euro continent how differently the virus affected different regions.
Western Europe
177,947 deaths
413,461,656 population
Deaths 430 per million
Eastern Europe
36,058 deaths
331,085,712 population
Deaths 109 per million
Glitterhater
SILVER ELITE
We are opening schools to a hybrid model next week. My gut tells me we will see a spike of cases due to this, and get rolled back again. At some point we/they/whomever needs to decide if the open/closing of schools as cases are discovered is still better than a stable distance model.
Or half as many deaths per Million as New York and New Jersey. Elderly residents can't be killed if they take the same precautions as my parents and in-laws do. They stay at home. My coworkers mom in law goes to the casinos. She understands the risk and doesn't care.
Life is about choices. I'll eat out if it is outdoors here in California, but won't eat inside a restaurant, even at 50% capacity. I wear my mask, stay away from groups larger than 6-7 people. My kid trains with a couple others, does team practice, but no contact. I'd let her play a game if allowed.
Cases dropped from a high of 12000 here in California July 22 to a current average of about 3500 per day. Things are getting better, but it sounds like the rules are so tight that counties are going to have tighter restrictions.