Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

I’m glad this was brought up, it is important to understand Myocarditis (from Myocarditis Foundation):

The most common cause of Myocarditis is a Viral Infection. acute Myocarditis is a well known complication of influenza infection. The clinical expression varies from asymptomatic to fulminant myocarditis, which can result in severe hemodynamics dysfunction, necessitating high-dose catechilolamimes and mechanical circulatory support.

Many viruses are associated with myocarditis, including viruses that cause the common cold (of which are 5 existing Covid strains that predate Covid 19), Covid 19, hepatitis B and C, parvovirus and herpes.

All of those diseases sound bad other than the cold. Anything that affects the heart makes me nervous.
 
He could have killed more people if he wanted to, but he didn't. Just about every time he point his rifle and pulled the trigger, he hit hit a target, then he stopped.

Unless he gets a settlement as a result of adult idiots in government trashing his name, he is in for an uphill fight for the rest of his life.

Here’s the thing Happy, I don’t have a problem with anything you said except this. Everything else you said is reasonable and in line with a straight conversation.

But you couldn’t help yourself and had to try and paint this guy as a victim and a “fine young man” who could have killed more people

I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy of all you tough law and order guys. If you don’t like the person, he had it coming, and if you like him, he’s a poor victim.

Integrity my friend, integrity. And just so you know, I spent half of Father’s Day defending the cop in the
Rayshard Brooks Wendy’s shooting. Not only should he not have been charged, I personally would not have fired him (at least for this incident alone).

On the Kenosha shooting there were two big mistakes. First if I was Blake’s dad or family member, the first thing I would do is slap the shit out of him for being an absolute idiot for resisting arrest and walking away, especially knowing what we know today. He’s lucky it didn’t cost him his life.

However, another big mistake is how these idiots couldn’t subdue or arrest this guy without having to shoot him in the back 7 times. We can subdue a lion in Africa and transport him to a zoo in Ohio without a problem, but we can’t arrest Joe Blow and transport him 3 blocks to the County jail without killing him.

Now this goes into the use of deadly force which is a huge topic unto its own and the most important in my opinion. I’ll leave it at that for now.
 
If that is what you got from it. I said I would wait for a reliable COVID vaccine. My kids aren't defined by their sports. Their health and happiness are my two biggest concerns in that order. Health then happiness. The risk is high. 30-35% with myocarditis is a pretty significant risk in my opinion.

Good luck to you and your player.
I don't think the risk is high with myocarditis.

According to the Mycocarditis foundation approx 75 athletes aged 13-25 die each year from it. Considering we have millions playing various sports, the risk is again statistically non existent.

Anyway. I appreciate the responses.
 
There are so many other activities that we can have our kids doing during this pandemic. My daughter has been painting and studying for the LSAT and doing an internship. My son took a 6 week course in Spanish and took a class on Minecraft and RoBlox world building in addition to his regular robotics classes.

Lots for our kids to do. I think @MacDre took his kid on a grueling bike ride. My daughter and I used to do that prior to club soccer becoming all consuming. Please don't despair. We will all get through this together.
 
I don't think the risk is high with myocarditis.

According to the Mycocarditis foundation approx 75 athletes aged 13-25 die each year from it. Considering we have millions playing various sports, the risk is again statistically non existent.

Anyway. I appreciate the responses.

I appreciate the civil conversation also so thank you. So 75 athletes in that age range die every year of myocarditis pre-COVID. We still do not have any reliable numbers and won't for a while as to what is happening now (statistics look backwards not forward). I am not concerned with the past only what could happen. Again it's a free country and if you and the other parents on your kid's team are comfortable with the risk and you can find other teams that are as comfortable then there you go.

Good luck to you and your player.
 
its what our country has become. Intelligent conversation is over.

I can have a straight conversation with anybody, anytime, anywhere. Ask me your toughest question and I’ll answer it honestly. It’s just that People can’t handle a straight conversation without talking shit. So the post from Happy that you quoted, isn’t he throwing a dig by saying “as much as people hate America, due process is a thing.”

Read my previous post where I said I didn’t have a problem with anything Happy said until he had to throw some digs.

I’m the only one who will call out my own party, defend cops when justified, and point out good things Trump has done. You want a straight conversation, I’m here.
 
Here’s the thing Happy, I don’t have a problem with anything you said except this. Everything else you said is reasonable and in line with a straight conversation.

But you couldn’t help yourself and had to try and paint this guy as a victim and a “fine young man” who could have killed more people

I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy of all you tough law and order guys. If you don’t like the person, he had it coming, and if you like him, he’s a poor victim.

Integrity my friend, integrity. And just so you know, I spent half of Father’s Day defending the cop in the
Rayshard Brooks Wendy’s shooting. Not only should he not have been charged, I personally would not have fired him (at least for this incident alone).

On the Kenosha shooting there were two big mistakes. First if I was Blake’s dad or family member, the first thing I would do is slap the shit out of him for being an absolute idiot for resisting arrest and walking away, especially knowing what we know today. He’s lucky it didn’t cost him his life.

However, another big mistake is how these idiots couldn’t subdue or arrest this guy without having to shoot him in the back 7 times. We can subdue a lion in Africa and transport him to a zoo in Ohio without a problem, but we can’t arrest Joe Blow and transport him 3 blocks to the County jail without killing him.

Now this goes into the use of deadly force which is a huge topic unto its own and the most important in my opinion. I’ll leave it at that for now.

This is all very rich - I don't get you at all, but that's fine, it's just a soccer forum. Please point out where I said "fine young man". I called him a young man (which he is, based on his current age). I also said he shouldn't have been there. I never even mentioned those he killed. The definition of integrity seems to be lost on you. And again, Law and Order shouldn't be a 4 letter word, I just don't get it. I would hope that if you ever need to call 911, that someone will answer your call and provide assistance.

Are you suggesting we arm police officers with tranquilizer guns? How do we determine dosage? really? subduing lions in Africa? Anyway. Law enforcement arrests and transport 100s of Joe Blows everyday. To your point, and I agree, patrol officers tend to lack proper defensive and suspect control training. Not uncommon and needs to be addressed. You can trace root causes of many incidents to poor or lack of training. With that said, compliance at the direction of a police officer usually results in both parties being safe.
 
Here’s the thing Happy, I don’t have a problem with anything you said except this. Everything else you said is reasonable and in line with a straight conversation.

But you couldn’t help yourself and had to try and paint this guy as a victim and a “fine young man” who could have killed more people

I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy of all you tough law and order guys. If you don’t like the person, he had it coming, and if you like him, he’s a poor victim.

Integrity my friend, integrity. And just so you know, I spent half of Father’s Day defending the cop in the
Rayshard Brooks Wendy’s shooting. Not only should he not have been charged, I personally would not have fired him (at least for this incident alone).

On the Kenosha shooting there were two big mistakes. First if I was Blake’s dad or family member, the first thing I would do is slap the shit out of him for being an absolute idiot for resisting arrest and walking away, especially knowing what we know today. He’s lucky it didn’t cost him his life.

However, another big mistake is how these idiots couldn’t subdue or arrest this guy without having to shoot him in the back 7 times. We can subdue a lion in Africa and transport him to a zoo in Ohio without a problem, but we can’t arrest Joe Blow and transport him 3 blocks to the County jail without killing him.

Now this goes into the use of deadly force which is a huge topic unto its own and the most important in my opinion. I’ll leave it at that for now.

Come see me about "use of force" under RIOTS. I'm waiting, "dubmass".
 
There are so many other activities that we can have our kids doing during this pandemic. My daughter has been painting and studying for the LSAT and doing an internship. My son took a 6 week course in Spanish and took a class on Minecraft and RoBlox world building in addition to his regular robotics classes.

Lots for our kids to do. I think @MacDre took his kid on a grueling bike ride. My daughter and I used to do that prior to club soccer becoming all consuming. Please don't despair. We will all get through this together.
Maps, what about kids who are all alone bro? Please bro, understand kids are dying right now in LA, OC, IE and all over Socal. Not all kids have a stable family. This is getting f n serious and I mean that. Read my thread over in the suicide section. I will have story everyday of kids killing themselves and overdosing on "pain" pills. I hope we all care about kids the way we do our own. Kids need our help you guys and I can;t say that enough.
 
I can have a straight conversation with anybody, anytime, anywhere. Ask me your toughest question and I’ll answer it honestly. It’s just that People can’t handle a straight conversation without talking shit. So the post from Happy that you quoted, isn’t he throwing a dig by saying “as much as people hate America, due process is a thing.”

Read my previous post where I said I didn’t have a problem with anything Happy said until he had to throw some digs.

I’m the only one who will call out my own party, defend cops when justified, and point out good things Trump has done. You want a straight conversation, I’m here.
It's not a dig at all, it's fact. We have people on the streets of this country chanting it- google "death to america oakland" or "death to america kenosha".
 
According to the Mycocarditis foundation approx 75 athletes aged 13-25 die each year from it. Considering we have millions playing various sports, the risk is again statistically non existent.
This is great information to have. The Mayo Clinic indicates that mild cases tend to resolve in 3-6 months. In some ways, those should be the ones we are most concerned about as the athlete may not notice it. Those with more obvious symptoms tend to be easily identified.

I have to think this cause of death is being closely monitored. The low number of expected deaths should allow us to more quickly identify if there is currently a significantly higher risk. For better or worse, we have many "test" cases out there as there are many thousands of recovered athletes who are training.
 
LMAO, are you still in the hole? Let's stay up here so we can all see your comments and judge for ourselves.

Some of us have stalkers sitting around waiting to cry to Dominic and won't report anyone but me. Are you familiar with ACLU? Come find me in the Off Topic thread... if you dare.

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There are so many other activities that we can have our kids doing during this pandemic. My daughter has been painting and studying for the LSAT and doing an internship. My son took a 6 week course in Spanish and took a class on Minecraft and RoBlox world building in addition to his regular robotics classes.

Lots for our kids to do. I think @MacDre took his kid on a grueling bike ride. My daughter and I used to do that prior to club soccer becoming all consuming. Please don't despair. We will all get through this together.
Maps, my kid wants to play soccer. Sorry, that's her sport of choice and she has been playing since she was 5. She wants to play soccer. Why is soccer off the table? Something is not right. People are saying, "do other things." No, my dd wants to play soccer and by goaly, she will play soccer. Why is soccer being banned? Everyone on this forum, please, think long and hard and let me know what you think the real reason is.
 
There are so many other activities that we can have our kids doing during this pandemic. My daughter has been painting and studying for the LSAT and doing an internship. My son took a 6 week course in Spanish and took a class on Minecraft and RoBlox world building in addition to his regular robotics classes.
I think you do get the benefit of the doubt in these discussions because you post with your real identity and your DD turned out wonderfully. If someone else stated a similar position as yours, he or she would be getting numerous "stay in your basement" remarks already. :)

Going off topic a bit since you brought up robotics and Kicker and KM2 were discussing job loss earlier. If anyone's kid has shown interest in math and engineering, definitely encourage them to pursue it. Every retail job loss is not a 1-to-1 replacement at Amazon. A percentage of each job loss is lost to automation forever. I would especially encourage more girls to get into engineering as we have a shortage of talented female engineers since forever.

Below is a very interesting video on what an Amazon warehouse looks like. It's so empty in some areas that I'm surprised they don't turn the lights down to save more electricity.

 
This is all very rich - I don't get you at all, but that's fine, it's just a soccer forum. Please point out where I said "fine young man". I called him a young man (which he is, based on his current age). I also said he shouldn't have been there. I never even mentioned those he killed. The definition of integrity seems to be lost on you. And again, Law and Order shouldn't be a 4 letter word, I just don't get it. I would hope that if you ever need to call 911, that someone will answer your call and provide assistance.

Are you suggesting we arm police officers with tranquilizer guns? How do we determine dosage? really? subduing lions in Africa? Anyway. Law enforcement arrests and transport 100s of Joe Blows everyday. To your point, and I agree, patrol officers tend to lack proper defensive and suspect control training. Not uncommon and needs to be addressed. You can trace root causes of many incidents to poor or lack of training. With that said, compliance at the direction of a police officer usually results in both parties being safe.

HB Dad, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Happy is not being intellectually honest and he's playing cutesy. Happy, it is true that you did not use the words "fine young man," but in my opinion, and I guarantee you anybody's honest opinion, that's exactly how you were trying to portray him. Just own it, so what, it's no big deal. So when you said, "he could have killed more people if he wanted to, but he didn't," I interpret that as trying to say he's not that bad. I think I'm being fair.

When you say, "adult idiots thrashing his name," I interpret this as portraying him as a victim. Let's take a poll and see what people think.

"I would hope that if you ever need to call 911, that someone will answer your call and provide assistance." See your talking shit, you couldn't help yourself. HB Dad, this is what I'm talking about.

They better come, that's their job, or do they work for free? Yes, now I'm talking shit. See, it's not that hard to admit.

And if it takes tranquilizers, why not? Let's see, I'm alive and groggy or I'm dead, I'll take alive and groggy. Again, your playing cutesy, you well know that was just a drastic example, but you your talking shit and try to portray me as being serious about that. C'mon man!
 
Maps, my kid wants to play soccer. Sorry, that's her sport of choice and she has been playing since she was 5. She wants to play soccer. Why is soccer off the table? Something is not right. People are saying, "do other things." No, my dd wants to play soccer and by goaly, she will play soccer. Why is soccer being banned? Everyone on this forum, please, think long and hard and let me know what you think the real reason is.

Soccer is off the table because the "man" who runs California wants as much suffering as possible unless it's his kid attending private school, his winery staying open, his aunt getting her hair done or protesters blocking traffic, standing body to body and screaming in faces of old people.

That's why.
 
Maps, my kid wants to play soccer. Sorry, that's her sport of choice and she has been playing since she was 5. She wants to play soccer. Why is soccer off the table? Something is not right. People are saying, "do other things." No, my dd wants to play soccer and by goaly, she will play soccer. Why is soccer being banned? Everyone on this forum, please, think long and hard and let me know what you think the real reason is.
This is very simple. Soccer is a game of strength and endurance. If your kid is only “playing soccer” they’re weak sauce because they won’t have the strength and endurance to play 90 minutes. So if your kid is really into soccer have them work on their strength and endurance so they can play a full 90 minutes and reduce their chance of injury by cross training and being fit.
 
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