Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

MakeAPlay said:
There are so many other activities that we can have our kids doing during this pandemic. My daughter has been painting and studying for the LSAT and doing an internship. My son took a 6 week course in Spanish and took a class on Minecraft and RoBlox world building in addition to his regular robotics classes.
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I think you do get the benefit of the doubt in these discussions because you post with your real identity and your DD turned out wonderfully. If someone else stated a similar position as yours, he or she would be getting numerous "stay in your basement" remarks already. :)

Going off topic a bit since you brought up robotics and Kicker and KM2 were discussing job loss earlier. If anyone's kid has shown interest in math and engineering, definitely encourage them to pursue it. Every retail job loss is not a 1-to-1 replacement at Amazon. A percentage of each job loss is lost to automation forever. I would especially encourage more girls to get into engineering as we have a shortage of talented female engineers since forever.

Below is a very interesting video on what an Amazon warehouse looks like. It's so empty in some areas that I'm surprised they don't turn the lights down to save more electricity.

 
happy9 said:
This is all very rich - I don't get you at all, but that's fine, it's just a soccer forum. Please point out where I said "fine young man". I called him a young man (which he is, based on his current age). I also said he shouldn't have been there. I never even mentioned those he killed. The definition of integrity seems to be lost on you. And again, Law and Order shouldn't be a 4 letter word, I just don't get it. I would hope that if you ever need to call 911, that someone will answer your call and provide assistance.

Are you suggesting we arm police officers with tranquilizer guns? How do we determine dosage? really? subduing lions in Africa? Anyway. Law enforcement arrests and transport 100s of Joe Blows everyday. To your point, and I agree, patrol officers tend to lack proper defensive and suspect control training. Not uncommon and needs to be addressed. You can trace root causes of many incidents to poor or lack of training. With that said, compliance at the direction of a police officer usually results in both parties being safe.
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HB Dad, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Happy is not being intellectually honest and he's playing cutesy. Happy, it is true that you did not use the words "fine young man," but in my opinion, and I guarantee you anybody's honest opinion, that's exactly how you were trying to portray him. Just own it, so what, it's no big deal. So when you said, "he could have killed more people if he wanted to, but he didn't," I interpret that as trying to say he's not that bad. I think I'm being fair.

When you say, "adult idiots thrashing his name," I interpret this as portraying him as a victim. Let's take a poll and see what people think.

"I would hope that if you ever need to call 911, that someone will answer your call and provide assistance." See your talking shit, you couldn't help yourself. HB Dad, this is what I'm talking about.

They better come, that's their job, or do they work for free? Yes, now I'm talking shit. See, it's not that hard to admit.

And if it takes tranquilizers, why not? Let's see, I'm alive and groggy or I'm dead, I'll take alive and groggy. Again, your playing cutesy, you well know that was just a drastic example, but you your talking shit and try to portray me as being serious about that. C'mon man!
 
Soccerhelper said:
Maps, my kid wants to play soccer. Sorry, that's her sport of choice and she has been playing since she was 5. She wants to play soccer. Why is soccer off the table? Something is not right. People are saying, "do other things." No, my dd wants to play soccer and by goaly, she will play soccer. Why is soccer being banned? Everyone on this forum, please, think long and hard and let me know what you think the real reason is.
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Soccer is off the table because the "man" who runs California wants as much suffering as possible unless it's his kid attending private school, his winery staying open, his aunt getting her hair done or protesters blocking traffic, standing body to body and screaming in faces of old people.

That's why.
 
Soccerhelper said:
Maps, my kid wants to play soccer. Sorry, that's her sport of choice and she has been playing since she was 5. She wants to play soccer. Why is soccer off the table? Something is not right. People are saying, "do other things." No, my dd wants to play soccer and by goaly, she will play soccer. Why is soccer being banned? Everyone on this forum, please, think long and hard and let me know what you think the real reason is.
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This is very simple. Soccer is a game of strength and endurance. If your kid is only “playing soccer” they’re weak sauce because they won’t have the strength and endurance to play 90 minutes. So if your kid is really into soccer have them work on their strength and endurance so they can play a full 90 minutes and reduce their chance of injury by cross training and being fit.
 
Justafan said:
Oh yeah, there's droves and droves of those people. They are taking over our country.
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You like to put words in people's mouths. I didn't say droves, and I didn't say taking over our country. But if you are telling me that what's happening in places like oakland, portland, seattle isn't people displaying their hate for our values as a country, you are lost. Peaceful protest is one thing and rightfully protected. As controversial as flag burning is, have at it, it's protected speech. We can have dialogue and it can be heated. Unfortunately what's happened is the hijacking of a worthy cause by a group of people that truly cannot relate to America as a whole.
 
Justafan said:
HB Dad, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Happy is not being intellectually honest and he's playing cutesy. Happy, it is true that you did not use the words "fine young man," but in my opinion, and I guarantee you anybody's honest opinion, that's exactly how you were trying to portray him. Just own it, so what, it's no big deal. So when you said, "he could have killed more people if he wanted to, but he didn't," I interpret that as trying to say he's not that bad. I think I'm being fair.
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If we are laying our cards on the table and attempting to be intellectually honest. Tell me your thoughts on Jacob Blake.

In 2020 anyone can pull data/new articles/social media posts etc.... on any subject to support their already formed opinion. Hell I can google "flat earth" and probably come up with 5 individual sources stating the earth is flat.
 
Justafan said:
HB Dad, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Happy is not being intellectually honest and he's playing cutesy. Happy, it is true that you did not use the words "fine young man," but in my opinion, and I guarantee you anybody's honest opinion, that's exactly how you were trying to portray him. Just own it, so what, it's no big deal. So when you said, "he could have killed more people if he wanted to, but he didn't," I interpret that as trying to say he's not that bad. I think I'm being fair.

When you say, "adult idiots thrashing his name," I interpret this as portraying him as a victim. Let's take a poll and see what people think.

"I would hope that if you ever need to call 911, that someone will answer your call and provide assistance." See your talking shit, you couldn't help yourself. HB Dad, this is what I'm talking about.

They better come, that's their job, or do they work for free? Yes, now I'm talking shit. See, it's not that hard to admit.

And if it takes tranquilizers, why not? Let's see, I'm alive and groggy or I'm dead, I'll take alive and groggy. Again, your playing cutesy, you well know that was just a drastic example, but you your talking shit and try to portray me as being serious about that. C'mon man!
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You are certainly entitled to your opinion and to your interpretation of the discussion.

When politicians/media weigh in on social media before everything is on the table, things get muddled. Just ask the washington post. They are a bit lighter in wallet these days- not that it matters since they can afford it. As far as poll is concerned, it would likely be 50 50, representative of the current temperature and division in this country. Critical thinkers will wait to see what the evidence spells out.

Check out response times for portland PD and Seattle PD over the last 30 days, not very good and they've been working their ass off.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
This is great information to have. The Mayo Clinic indicates that mild cases tend to resolve in 3-6 months. In some ways, those should be the ones we are most concerned about as the athlete may not notice it. Those with more obvious symptoms tend to be easily identified.
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A question to be asked is this.

Prior to covid was there any widespread testing for myocarditis? Was there any testing done after colds/flu's, etc.? It is something regularly tested for on the collegiate/pro level?

The reason I ask is because if we only started looking now, we don't really know too much about what was going on before.
 
MacDre said:
This is very simple. Soccer is a game of strength and endurance. If your kid is only “playing soccer” they’re weak sauce because they won’t have the strength and endurance to play 90 minutes. So if your kid is really into soccer have them work on their strength and endurance so they can play a full 90 minutes and reduce their chance of injury by cross training and being fit.
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Listen Dre, my dd is just about out of time to play soccer. She only has to play 35-40 minute halfs. If other assholes would let go of soccer, she could play all the time. Anyway, I hope everyone can get what they want from this sport. My God, this is insane!!! At least she surfs, hikes, track, volleyball and now cliff jumping. However, she wants to play soccer at the highest of highs because that is her sport of choice. Just watch bro.....:)
 
Soccerhelper said:
Maps, my kid wants to play soccer. Sorry, that's her sport of choice and she has been playing since she was 5. She wants to play soccer. Why is soccer off the table? Something is not right. People are saying, "do other things." No, my dd wants to play soccer and by goaly, she will play soccer. Why is soccer being banned? Everyone on this forum, please, think long and hard and let me know what you think the real reason is.
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Soccer is not banned - organized soccer is. A lot of us are still playing soccer. Time to get creative.
 
Justafan said:
Seriously, look at my response to Happy where I mentioned 2 mistakes.
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Okay i looked and I agree with the first point / mistake you mentioned. We differ when you mention the cops should have been able to contain him. The media has dehumanized cops and we are at the point where citizens are demanding cops are part Bruce Willis, Mother Teresa. They tried to taze him, he didnt stop. They were only there because of a 911 call, they were asked to come help.

Another question, if that was your daughter or son that made the call. How would you feel? According to the police report he "used his finger to sexually assault her, sniffed it and said, “Smells like you’ve been with other men,”
 
Glitterhater said:
Soccer is not banned - organized soccer is. A lot of us are still playing soccer. Time to get creative.
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Yes it is, by the State and the state has Cal South as their police force. Like I said, I didnt follow the rules when i was a young cowboy teen looking to be a warrior outside. I broke all the rules. After waking up in puke a few times and then having to pump gas all day when kid is 18,, one wakes up and ask himself the questions, "is this worth it?" I teach my kids to obey the rules, even the one's you dont like or agree with. I'll let all of you be creative and help where I can. My dd loves this game and was told by the great Tad, "Your dd was born to play soccer." I just love that :)
 
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Desert Hound said:
A question to be asked is this.

Prior to covid was there any widespread testing for myocarditis? Was there any testing done after colds/flu's, etc.? It is something regularly tested for on the collegiate/pro level?

The reason I ask is because if we only started looking now, we don't really know too much about what was going on before.
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Agreed. Lack of context is one of my biggest complaints about much of the data we get regarding COVID. Although, I would think they would at least be able to compare the rates of myocarditis of the athletes who tested positive vs. those who tested negative. I guess the assumption is that those who didn't test positive won't have myocarditis. It would have been nice to see that data.
 
The HB Dad said:
We differ when you mention the cops should have been able to contain him. The media has dehumanized cops and we are at the point where citizens are demanding cops are part Bruce Willis, Mother Teresa. They tried to taze him, he didnt stop. They were only there because of a 911 call, they were asked to come help.
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Media dehumanizing cops is irrelevant for now. Citizens demanding they be Bruce or Mother Teresa, not me.

So are you saying this situation could only have been handled the way it was handled, i.e. a shooting? Were there any mistakes by the police in your opinion?

The HB Dad said:
Another question, if that was your daughter or son that made the call. How would you feel? According to the police report he "used his finger to sexually assault her, sniffed it and said, “Smells like you’ve been with other men,”
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Don't know anything about this and it is irrelevant to what we are discussing.
 
Kicker4Life said:
I’m glad this was brought up, it is important to understand Myocarditis (from Myocarditis Foundation):

The most common cause of Myocarditis is a Viral Infection. acute Myocarditis is a well known complication of influenza infection. The clinical expression varies from asymptomatic to fulminant myocarditis, which can result in severe hemodynamics dysfunction, necessitating high-dose catechilolamimes and mechanical circulatory support.

Many viruses are associated with myocarditis, including viruses that cause the common cold (of which are 5 existing Covid strains that predate Covid 19), Covid 19, hepatitis B and C, parvovirus and herpes.
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1.5 million cases of Myocarditis per year. Chest pain, shortness of breath, Fatigue and fluid retention resulting in swelling of legs and feet. Regardless of Covid keep an eye on your athletes.
 
Messi>CR7 said:
I think you do get the benefit of the doubt in these discussions because you post with your real identity and your DD turned out wonderfully. If someone else stated a similar position as yours, he or she would be getting numerous "stay in your basement" remarks already. :)

Going off topic a bit since you brought up robotics and Kicker and KM2 were discussing job loss earlier. If anyone's kid has shown interest in math and engineering, definitely encourage them to pursue it. Every retail job loss is not a 1-to-1 replacement at Amazon. A percentage of each job loss is lost to automation forever. I would especially encourage more girls to get into engineering as we have a shortage of talented female engineers since forever.

Below is a very interesting video on what an Amazon warehouse looks like. It's so empty in some areas that I'm surprised they don't turn the lights down to save more electricity.

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I just don't think that it is the end of the world and that we can make it through this. Most of us didn't get to play club soccer growing up and we turned out okay. We are only talking about a 12-18 month hiatus. That to me isn't the end of the world. And I agree that we need more female engineers, pilots, soldiers, governors, doctors and more. The countries with female leaders are doing better, on average, right now.

Continued good fortune to you and your player.
 
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