Thanks!!!
What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?
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jpeter
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Yeah thats understand and reasonable. But how practical or realistic that is is another question for the masses. For some with there own private facilities that's going to be a lot easier than the public ones. For example when will great park open back for youth soccer? When that happens for example the dominos start to fall in place for those that use that facilities. Same goes for the schools and colleges that rent field space.
SoccerGuru
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Meant to say give not five,oops
Eighteen states are now showing an increasing rate of infection.
Hospitalization is the only relevant number because 95% of infections get resolved on their own. Sometimes the person infected won't even know.
kickingandscreaming
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Looking for some opinions from those who aren't on the extreme ends of society being open or closed. Would you think it's safe for my son to start private goalie training? He has asthma, so I'm a little more cautious than most. It does seem like asthma may not be as big of a risk as thought, so I'm warming up to the idea of him getting back out there
Jose has returned
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yes. Im sure if the coach would wear a mask if you told him the condition. or try to see how far your son can handle a mask while training.
Frank
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Yes, in a private training the act of social distancing is very easy
I would like to tell you that I am not on the extreme end, but that would not be honest (I am 1,000% behind opening it up for those who are willing to get back out there), that said, if YOU have ANY concerns you should not have your kid out there. While the risk for kids seems very low (zero deaths under the age of 19 in San Diego County https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/cont...demiology/COVID-19 Deaths by Demographics.pdf), that would be of no comfort if your son was the outlier. YOU have to decide what you are comfortable with, no one else. I am asthmatic as well, so I have some concerns, but I thought I read some where that asthma was not a factor. Listen to no one (even me), and do what you feel comfortable with.
PS My kid is a keeper and she will be back at it this week.
Messi>CR7
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Honestly I would not seek medical advise from from this forum. If your doctor does not know, seek advise from another doctor or two.
Safe is a relative term. New Zealand and Taiwan are the safest, as they actually reported zero daily new cases. Germany is not as safe as New Zealand, but they're looking good and Bundesliga is back on. US is not as safe as Germany, but probably safer than Brazil. Working with one coach and the same 10 kids every week is safer than working with two coaches and 20 kids.
My kids will participate when soccer is allowed because I figure this is about as safe as we will get in this country. As a country, we didn't do the shelter-in-place all that well, and we also couldn't handle/allow the hard core contact tracing like they do in Korea. If we go into lock down again, I've personally come to the conclusion that we simply will not achieve the kind of results that has been achieved in other countries.
Work, school and soccer fall under essential activities in my household, so my kids will play. But we limit our exposure everywhere else. My kids don't go to Costco with my wife for free samples anymore
(not sure if they still have them).Good luck to you.
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Thanks! I was planning on calling my son's doctor this week to get his opinionHonestly I would not seek medical advise from from this forum. If your doctor does not know, seek advise from another doctor or two.
Safe is a relative term. New Zealand and Taiwan are the safest, as they actually reported zero daily new cases. Germany is not as safe as New Zealand, but they're looking good and Bundesliga is back on. US is not as safe as Germany, but probably safer than Brazil. Working with one coach and the same 10 kids every week is safer than working with two coaches and 20 kids.
My kids will participate when soccer is allowed because I figure this is about as safe as we will get in this country. As a country, we didn't do the shelter-in-place all that well, and we also couldn't handle/allow the hard core contact tracing like they do in Korea. If we go into lock down again, I've personally come to the conclusion that we simply will not achieve the kind of results that has been achieved in other countries.
Work, school and soccer fall under essential activities in my household, so my kids will play. But we limit our exposure everywhere else. My kids don't go to Costco with my wife for free samples anymore
Good luck to you.
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Soccermaverick
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ASK YOUR DOCTOR... They will tell you the truth... Do not rely on anything else... your kid will thank you for it later.
The week of April 13th we averaged 2200 deaths per day. Last week it dropped for the 7th straight week to 900 per day, with yesterday being the lowest day since March at 373. For comparison the US averages about 8000 total deaths from all causes per day.
Funny, but sad thing happened Saturday. 5 girls out together kicking the ball around, running some drills. Kept about 10 ft. away, including keeping their backpacks and water away from each other. Girl walks up to her bag and drinks her water. Only it wasn't her water, it was a teammates.
Also saw a High School soccer team with about 20 girls full on scrimmage that same day, bumping, slide talks, the whole works. As we start back up playing, lets try to follow the rules as much as possible. Be safe, but enjoy the outdoors.
Funny, but sad thing happened Saturday. 5 girls out together kicking the ball around, running some drills. Kept about 10 ft. away, including keeping their backpacks and water away from each other. Girl walks up to her bag and drinks her water. Only it wasn't her water, it was a teammates.
Also saw a High School soccer team with about 20 girls full on scrimmage that same day, bumping, slide talks, the whole works. As we start back up playing, lets try to follow the rules as much as possible. Be safe, but enjoy the outdoors.
JumboJack
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If that is not ok now why would it be safe in two weeks? A month? 3 months? 6 months? Is the virus going to be gone in 6 months? I highly doubt it.
Nice to hear about how other places are doing but in LA country where I reside not so much:
Coronavirus transmission rate climbing in L.A. County as economy reopens
It's possible the number of intensive care beds could become inadequate in the next two to four weeks, according to the director of health services for L.A. County.
As far as the camp tactic to restart practice sooner than what's previously stated for youth sports in phase 3 might work for some county(ies) and clubs who already have day camps established and facilities that take them.
Can't just call sometime a day camp and your good. Counties and locals regulate them and there is a bunch of rules, regs, and insurance that go with to get a permit. Starting out new in this process might just take as much time as when regular youth sports will opens but things are evolving so who knows let's see what this week brings.
Coronavirus transmission rate climbing in L.A. County as economy reopens
It's possible the number of intensive care beds could become inadequate in the next two to four weeks, according to the director of health services for L.A. County.
As far as the camp tactic to restart practice sooner than what's previously stated for youth sports in phase 3 might work for some county(ies) and clubs who already have day camps established and facilities that take them.
Can't just call sometime a day camp and your good. Counties and locals regulate them and there is a bunch of rules, regs, and insurance that go with to get a permit. Starting out new in this process might just take as much time as when regular youth sports will opens but things are evolving so who knows let's see what this week brings.
We really need to have a national conversation about what roll experts should play in our planning. Absolutely talk to your doctor! A doctor can lay out for you precisely all of the risks involved. A doctor can tell you much about the current learning. A doctor can even tell you what they would do. But a doctor can't make the risk assessment FOR YOU. That's on you. And part of the problem for the doctor is that when everything is a nail, every solution is a hammer. They see only their expertise, and not the broad range of things, because life is complicated. Doctors don't opine on economics, for example. And we had epidemiologists who were blind to the other health concerns of a lockdown including suicide, depression, abuse, drug overdose, and delayed treatments, because they only saw their specialty. So they can tell us a lockdown is important for X, Y, and Z reason, but our leaders shouldn't be outsourcing decision making to them because they can't see the entire picture. It may turn out their recommendations are the right ones, but it's a broader conversation than just do X.
It's the same with a lawyer. If you were to ask a lawyer, hey I have this great idea for a new game which kids can play that involve kicking a ball around and involves some physical contact, do you think it's a good idea that I do it, the lawyer is going to say no. The lawyer will trot out the parade of horribles you have to worry about (whether abuse from coaches, to injuries, to some kid dying from heat exhaustion). The lawyer loses nothing telling you "no" because it's easier, but if the lawyer says yes and something happens then the lawyer is in trouble. The better question to ask the lawyer is what can we do that protects ourselves from the risk (e.g., insurance), but only you can decide whether the insurance is worth the bother or the cost (unless the govt tells you you must have it).
So absolutely talk to your doctor. And doctors have a huge role to play in advising us the best way to get back to school and sports. But they can only outline the risks, and ultimately it's up to us to decide whether those risks are justified for the individual situations.
Nice to hear about how other places are doing but in LA country where I reside not so much:
Coronavirus transmission rate climbing in L.A. County as economy reopens
It's possible the number of intensive care beds could become inadequate in the next two to four weeks, according to the director of health services for L.A. County.
As far as the camp tactic to restart practice sooner than what's previously stated for youth sports in phase 3 might work for some county(ies) and clubs who already have day camps established and facilities that take them.
Can't just call sometime a day camp and your good. Counties and locals regulate them and there is a bunch of rules, regs, and insurance that go with to get a permit. Starting out new in this process might just take as much time as when regular youth sports will opens but things are evolving so who knows let's see what this week brings.
This times different, this model will be right this time. And if a weekly camp can run mon-thurs for a few hours, why cant a summer camp run for 2 hours twice a week? think you're just jealous some counties are doing better than LA.
What are you talking about?
I happy that other counties are going better and camps are fine and everyone should have a opportunity to attend. Im a counselor for one for those.