What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?

SoccerFan4Life said:
Good news, Calsouth is allowing clubs to begin field practices on Monday. There will be limitations but it’s a start
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Allow? What was the conversation and limitations?

Are you saying Cal South will let clubs in counties that have variances for day camps use them as a insurance to obtain field permits starting that date?

What exactly are they allowing and under what conditions, regulations, etc?
 
wc_baller said:
What clubs? I'm in Santa Clara County, and our club said that we probably won't have any official practices until July, and I haven't heard of or seen any organized practices at any fields this week. We know families at various clubs in the county, and nobody I know has started practicing officially.
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The truth is the new season starts August 1st. Teams are being put together as we speak. The last 90 days have been hard on the kids and all of us. My advice is to take June off and relax with the family. Lot's of great soccer will start up July 1st when the new rosters will be announced. MLS is having a big time tournament in July. I'm hoping the kids can have a big time tournament in Oceanside in August. Let's get the games started!!!
 
Eagle33 said:
Cal South can't allow shit. It will all depend on your local guidance and field availability/permits.
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Well I asked this question a few weeks back and everyone said that clubs cant field teams until CalSouth gives the go ahead because they have the player cards, insurance, etc.

I am just happy to hear the players will finally be back on the field in some capacity. If that means every 2 weeks ramping up a little bit more, I am all for it.
 
SoccerGuru said:
Can you give any more details? I am curious to see what was said or allowed
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You will get all the details from your club within days. The main thing is that there’s new liability release docs to be signed. Also, field permits are still in limbo and your club will need to work with the local city on that.
 
My son is going sky diving on Saturday out in Lake Elsinore. His best friend from 1st grade is going to serve our country as a Marine and he wanted to take a jump before he goes all in. My dd asked me, "if my bro can go sky diving why can;t I play soccer and I told her I don;t know why honey. She thinks it's unfair and so do I.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
You will get all the details from your club within days. The main thing is that there’s new liability release docs to be signed. Also, field permits are still in limbo and your club will need to work with the local city on that.
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On so Cal south is relying on clubs to convince there counties to allow youth sports to fit under the day camp guideance.

Like what San Diego has done, well that's up to the metics to qualify first and public health officers to allow that 2nd. LA, OC, Ventura, and San Bernardino so far Haven't done that but at least when they do or the state wide guidance for youth sports is published by the state soccer practice or "day camps" can start up the process 6/15 and that's ok with Cal South.
 
wc_baller said:
What clubs? I'm in Santa Clara County, and our club said that we probably won't have any official practices until July, and I haven't heard of or seen any organized practices at any fields this week. We know families at various clubs in the county, and nobody I know has started practicing officially.
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For Santa Clara County, it depends on the city. Some cities are releasing fields, some are not. Rumor I heard is PSV is starting, but all non contact.
 
because of declining metrics in several categories (eg hospitalizations) Los Angeles and San Bernardino counties have been put on the state watch list. If there isn’t improvement in 14 days they may impose restrictions including lockdowns. Ventura is near failure on one of its metrics (hospital capacity) due to its limited number of icu beds and an outbreak at a nursing home.

for those that said the play after the protests would be to try and relockdown, guess they were right. Now the question is how willing the public will be to go along with it.

the day camps question came up at the Ventura board of Supervisors meeting yesterday but was not answered (they had bigger fish to fry since they are concerned the reopening might be in trouble)
 
Eagle33 said:
Cal South can't allow shit. It will all depend on your local guidance and field availability/permits.
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Eagle33 said:
Cal South can't allow shit. It will all depend on your local guidance and field availability/permits.
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Not true. I can get a private field and start training the team once the insurance gets reinstated. You do realize that this is already happening in many counties.
 
Grace T. said:
because of declining metrics in several categories (eg hospitalizations) Los Angeles and San Bernardino counties have been put on the state watch list. If there isn’t improvement in 14 days they may impose restrictions including lockdowns. Ventura is near failure on one of its metrics (hospital capacity) due to its limited number of icu beds and an outbreak at a nursing home.

for those that said the play after the protests would be to try and relockdown, guess they were right. Now the question is how willing the public will be to go along with it.

the day camps question came up at the Ventura board of Supervisors meeting yesterday but was not answered (they had bigger fish to fry since they are concerned the reopening might be in trouble)
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I will follow the rules set out by our authorities. It's a decision I made long ago no matter whose in charge. However, if parents want to go out and peacefully protest and not destroy the fields and goal post, all power to you all.
 
Watching a team of la crosse girls in a park in north la county while my son trains right now. No masks. No distancing. 9 girls full contact. It’s a public park so no permit. If they make it too difficult to get up and running or even Take steps backwards teams (to extent they aren’t already doing it) are just going to go under the table like this.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
Not true. I can get a private field and start training the team once the insurance gets reinstated. You do realize that this is already happening in many counties.
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State, county, local heath orders and guideance + stay at home orders apply to all entities private or public.

You can have all the insurance you want on private fields those orders still apply and you can be in volitation of the orders just like when house party gatherings are going on and they are broken up by officials.
 
Grace T. said:
Watching a team of la crosse girls in a park in north la county while my son trains right now. No masks. No distancing. 9 girls full contact. It’s a public park so no permit. If they make it too difficult to get up and running or even Take steps backwards teams (to extent they aren’t already doing it) are just going to go under the table like this.
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They need to get the rules in line with the science. People can mostly follow rules that are explained well and make sense.

But they’re trying to convince us that a 5v5 U7 game in open air counts as high risk. No one believes it, and the attempt undercuts the rules which do make sense.

In some cases, the rules make it worse. We ban outdoor graduation parties at public parks, and we get indoor graduation parties at private homes.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:

Look at the 5th paragraph. youth sports teams are allowed to practice in parks.
Orange County will opens soon.
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In San Diego county the public heath officer said youth sports can fit under the day camp guidance, nothing new there. The article also clearly states "guidance of full resumption for youth sports is under consideration at the state level, a specific date has not yet been set"

Orange county is not San Diego so when they open great park fields back up for soccer practice yes then it would be the time for those clubs to get the permit process going.
 
Ellejustus said:
My son is going sky diving on Saturday out in Lake Elsinore. His best friend from 1st grade is going to serve our country as a Marine and he wanted to take a jump before he goes all in. My dd asked me, "if my bro can go sky diving why can;t I play soccer and I told her I don;t know why honey. She thinks it's unfair and so do I.
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Cuz if her parachute doesn’t open it doesn’t infect people around her, nor cause an impact in available beds in the local hospital. I’m all for getting back to playing soccer but the impact of spreading is real and decision makers are right to be concerned.
 
This may have been covered but what has your club done for fees and/or when are they asking for the first payment?
 
full90 said:
Cuz if her parachute doesn’t open it doesn’t infect people around her, nor cause an impact in available beds in the local hospital. I’m all for getting back to playing soccer but the impact of spreading is real and decision makers are right to be concerned.
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The problem with this argument, though, is that the health administrators haven't been consistent. Indoor karate studios o.k. but outside youth soccer not? That's not even consistent with the science. Special exception for BLM marches, but Trump rallies and outdoor church services, weddings and funerals not o.k.? That's not science or first amendment compliant. Exercise equiptment shops closed, but liquor stores and marijuana stores are essential? Your health is impacted positively by the former, not by the latter. I'm all for a rational and science based approach to opening, but our public officials and the so-called "experts" have been playing favorites since the beginning, and what's worse carved out exceptions for themselves: C. Cuomo (despite being positive broke quarantine to visit his new house), Lightfoot (haircut), Cummings (childcare), Fergueson (booty call), Obama (golf), Trudeau (visited his cabin in the woods), De Blasio (exercise in the park), Pritzker (send family away), and Whitmer (her husband's boat).
 
lafalafa said:
In San Diego county the public heath officer said youth sports can fit under the day camp guidance, nothing new there. The article also clearly states "guidance of full resumption for youth sports is under consideration at the state level, a specific date has not yet been set"

Orange county is not San Diego so when they open great park fields back up for soccer practice yes then it would be the time for those clubs to get the permit process going.
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But day camp means following rules for day camps. Limited groups. Coaches attached to one group only all day. Limited training times means having to train during the day in 100 degree weather. No night practice.

No parents. Parents have to drop off kid and leave. No spectators on fields. Specific drop off times and areas. No restrooms at city fields.

All players can really do is individual drills and some passing.

If you read Cal South guidelines games aren't even allowed until phase 4. We may not even get to phase 4 because as lockdowns are loosened people forget to social distance and stop wearing masks so we go backward.

If everyone wore a mask we would have never needed a lockdown but we are still arguing about something as common sense as masks.
 
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