That's why you should keep your kid at home hiding under his bed. Don't worry about those that decide to go out.
What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?
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so, what is it that you are recommending? maintain a national lockdown until the virus burns itself out?
Very few countries have contained Covid. They are mostly islands or effectively islands (New Zealand, Iceland, Taiwan, Israel, South Korea, Hawaii) or if you believe them China. South Korea's containment is now in doubt, having to reimpose lockdowns and school shutdowns, and this despite a very hard, very draconian test and trace regime. Most other countries just burn through their curve.
That's why you can't use dictatorship to fight the nature. All dictators use the same argument that their rules are for the society's own good. Going down a dangerous path here. Let the nature take its course. This is not the first or last virus. All you can do is inform people. You can't force them. You have the right to hide under your bed.
oh canada
GOLD
OC also now has a mask requirement btw. This will be the "6ft summer". Can't play soccer games with masks.
JumboJack
SILVER ELITE
Wow.. I mean really wow. How do you isolate the vulnerable? Oh gee I don't know perhaps by having THEM stay home and isolate? Treat assisted living places like they are a sterile ward in a hospital? Don't let anyone come near them that could possibly be a danger? Don't let germ filled family and friends come near them?
Nursing homes are doing all of that already. The May nursing home deaths are what you get despite those measures. Some fraction of doctors, nurses, and delivery people are asymptomatic carriers and bring it in.
Covid for nursing homes is something like 14%. They have had over 40,000 patients die from it. Do you think they are doing nothing?
The sooner you start, the sooner you will get into game shape. Looking at your posts.. I'm thinking you may feel marginally comfortable around October. I think it may be best if you and yours stay locked inside until you are satisfied things are safe. If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem right? I would make sure to talk to your club DOC about your concerns and how you would rather not be on the leading edge coming out of lockdown.
meanwhile in AZ...
Desert Hound
DA
Actually what a lot of scientists from different countries are saying is that kids don't seem to spread the virus much and they are not sure why.
So not only is there about zero risk for kids, they also don't seem to be spreaders.
Desert Hound
DA
No it hasn't changed.
Take a look at CA. 52% of all cases are 50 and under. And has been since they have been tracking. https://public.tableau.com/views/CO...ic?:embed=y&:display_count=no&:showVizHome=no
On the other hand that age group has to date only 6% of all deaths. Zero deaths under 17 to date.
No. I think we should open up the safer half of the economy, and implement social distance / sanitation measures within workplaces.
That is why I am in favor of league games and opposed to tournaments. League games are low risk and tournaments are high risk.
I also think most sanitation measures should be mandatory. It should not be my choice whether to wear a mask. If the CDC says it helps, then it should be required, and enforced. The lower we can keep transmission, the more of the economy we can open up.
JumboJack
SILVER ELITE
If they are already doing that they are not doing a very good job (obviously). Pre covid how did hospitals keep their staff from spreading disease to their patients? To some patients any disease can be deadly.
The reason for the nursing home situation is because nursing homes were not allowed to refuse admittance to patients that were covid positive. Never mind asymptomatic employees, their best pal sitting next to them in the communal dinning room was positive.
Colleges not opening either to outside entities, parks open but would they issue permits anytime soon for group sports when they don't have the staff to monitor guidelines or have the ok from the state & counties?
Cal South haven't seen or heard anymore update from them in weeks. Besides promoting some possible future events are they going to be able to provide insurance?
You would think for the few trillion you save for not shutting down the economy you could establish a near bullet proof way to protect the vulnerable. The only obstacles would be Cuomo and Murphy.
SoccerGuru
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If that is how you feel, then don't go! Stop posting on here that you are not in favor of something and then show up because the club decides to attend. If you are opposed to tournaments, then stay home. Simple. No one will hate you for it but it seems very clear that if your DDs team is going you will go for fear of missing out, based on your previous comments. So please get off your high horse and join the rest of us trying to get soccer back for the kids.
Returning covid patients to nursing homes was a disaster, but I don’t think that’s what is driving the outbreak in Minnesota.
My niece works in a nursing home. She had to self isolate for two weeks after a possible exposure. She was pretty serious about it. Bought two weeks of food and didn’t open the door. No friends, no church, nothing. The LTC lockdown is a lot tighter than ours. It just doesn't take a very big leak for it to infect people.
JumboJack
SILVER ELITE
Is that a bad thing? If it's not OK to play or practice now then it won't be in two weeks or two months or six months.
MSK357
GOLD
You should ask the Cuomo's why that happened