What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?

Latest news out of Washington state today is that 50% of all the new covid-19 cases are under 40. Has the virus begun mutating? I guess we will all find out.
57% of all cases in CA are under 50. What’s your point?
 
We just got off our private school/what does next year look like call. Masks for kids even kindergarteners except during lunch which must be distanced (some kids will receive accommodations and use face shields or bandanas and teachers will use faceshields if around hearing impaired kids and no masks during sports/pe). Smaller distanced class sizes. Football and water polo are a challenge. Soccer is planning to go forward with some modifications being worked on by CIF (what those are who knows...don't know how you can distance soccer). Basketball will also move outside and will have some rules modifications (again, can't imagine how that's going to work). Band and choir moving outside. Visitors will be limited on campus so no spectators in sports. No assemblies, dances or plays (though for plays they talked about maybe zooming it or COVID testing the participants before performance). Mix of remote learning and in person for kids who are quarantined or feeling unwell. Temperature checks and questionnaires at drop off but no mass testing unless there's an incident or outbreak. They plan on buses but aren't sure how that will work at all and it may result in contact trace restrictions if someone on the bus comes down with it. They are anticipating not if but when there is an outbreak at school.

If other schools are thinking about these restrictions in the fall (and we were assured most of the major privates are on the same course), I don't see mass tournaments in Socal taking place in August (at least not like we are used to them).
 
57% of all cases in CA are under 50. What’s your point?

Yeah, this isn't really a surprise. The older folks are either mostly still really hard shut or it's already gone through their vulnerable area (nursing homes). Testing is up so we are catching more asymptomatic or mildy symptomtic cases when before they were testing only people seriously ill (which were the olders). Death rates were skewed slightly higher early on due to kids being out of school and it hitting the nursing homes hard. It's what we would expect.
 
We just got off our private school/what does next year look like call. Masks for kids even kindergarteners except during lunch which must be distanced (some kids will receive accommodations and use face shields or bandanas and teachers will use faceshields if around hearing impaired kids and no masks during sports/pe). Smaller distanced class sizes. Football and water polo are a challenge. Soccer is planning to go forward with some modifications being worked on by CIF (what those are who knows...don't know how you can distance soccer). Basketball will also move outside and will have some rules modifications (again, can't imagine how that's going to work). Band and choir moving outside. Visitors will be limited on campus so no spectators in sports. No assemblies, dances or plays (though for plays they talked about maybe zooming it or COVID testing the participants before performance). Mix of remote learning and in person for kids who are quarantined or feeling unwell. Temperature checks and questionnaires at drop off but no mass testing unless there's an incident or outbreak. They plan on buses but aren't sure how that will work at all and it may result in contact trace restrictions if someone on the bus comes down with it. They are anticipating not if but when there is an outbreak at school.

If other schools are thinking about these restrictions in the fall (and we were assured most of the major privates are on the same course), I don't see mass tournaments in Socal taking place in August (at least not like we are used to them).
sounds like prison. great environment for kids to learn.... hope you arent paying too much for this disaster of a policy
 
Actually seems reasonable compared to what the CA education director is recommending for public schools and what Newsom is expected to release tomorrow.
 
We just got off our private school/what does next year look like call. Masks for kids even kindergarteners except during lunch which must be distanced (some kids will receive accommodations and use face shields or bandanas and teachers will use faceshields if around hearing impaired kids and no masks during sports/pe). Smaller distanced class sizes. Football and water polo are a challenge. Soccer is planning to go forward with some modifications being worked on by CIF (what those are who knows...don't know how you can distance soccer). Basketball will also move outside and will have some rules modifications (again, can't imagine how that's going to work). Band and choir moving outside. Visitors will be limited on campus so no spectators in sports. No assemblies, dances or plays (though for plays they talked about maybe zooming it or COVID testing the participants before performance). Mix of remote learning and in person for kids who are quarantined or feeling unwell. Temperature checks and questionnaires at drop off but no mass testing unless there's an incident or outbreak. They plan on buses but aren't sure how that will work at all and it may result in contact trace restrictions if someone on the bus comes down with it. They are anticipating not if but when there is an outbreak at school.

If other schools are thinking about these restrictions in the fall (and we were assured most of the major privates are on the same course), I don't see mass tournaments in Socal taking place in August (at least not like we are used to them).

Given that the virus will be with us for sometime, it is inevitable that kids will test positive. I will be interested to see what the protocols will be when someone playing high school sports test positive. Who do you quarantine (player or team), how long does the quarantine last, does the protocol change if this happens during the week you play your rival?
 
So what you are saying is let them get sick and expose their families?? They absolutely would be contagious to their families. The deaths we have to date have been with shelter at home and businesses closed and no in school instruction. I wonder how many kids will become infected and will die after all that is lifted and of course their family members.
Ill say this for the millionth time.
KEEP THE ELDERLY AND IMUNE COMPRIMISED AWAY FROM ANYONE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN EXPOSED!!! Take extra precautions around them!

You make it sound like every single kid lives with their grandparents! ISOLATE THE VULNERABLE NOT EVERY FRICKING PERSON!!
 
So what you are saying is let them get sick and expose their families?? They absolutely would be contagious to their families. The deaths we have to date have been with shelter at home and businesses closed and no in school instruction. I wonder how many kids will become infected and will die after all that is lifted and of course their family members.
So what you are saying is let them get sick and expose their families??
If you are head of household and you haven't assessed if there are people in your family that are at risk for Covid19, meaning people who have Diabetes, Hypertension or are Obese then not a lot anyone can do for you.

For households that have someone who fits the criteria of an underlying condition, the children in those homes shouldn't be going anywhere or those individuals should be moved to a safer living situation.

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sounds like prison. great environment for kids to learn.... hope you arent paying too much for this disaster of a policy

It's consistent with what the other private schools are doing both from what they shared and what other families going into middle school are telling us in his current class. At least they plan to have in person learning every day. The problem with the public schools is they may not have the staff and classrooms to socially separate kids so it looks like they are planning a mix of online and in person learning, which will be a disaster for parents looking to go back to work, and may throw their hands up when it comes to sports. We're headed for a major train wreck there if this is what the private schools are looking like. If you are home school you are no doubt laughing to the bank.
 
Ill say this for the millionth time.
KEEP THE ELDERLY AND IMUNE COMPRIMISED AWAY FROM ANYONE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN EXPOSED!!! Take extra precautions around them!

You make it sound like every single kid lives with their grandparents! ISOLATE THE VULNERABLE NOT EVERY FRICKING PERSON!!
Listen JumboJack and others like you, this is no time to use logic or common sense. We're in the middle of a pandemic, just OBEY. How hard is it to understand that Walmart is safe and beaches are dangerous, although not as dangerous as kids playing soccer or going to school. Our politicians (and their handpicked experts) know what's best for us. :)
 
I wonder how many kids will become infected and will die after all that is lifted and of course their family members.
You obviously aren't looking at the numbers I posted from the CDC website so I will help you a little.

There have been 1.7 Million confirmed cases of coivd19 in the United States. There are only 12 Children under the age of 15 that have died. Half of those had underlying conditions. There have been 7 times more deaths from the Flu for kids in this age range than Covid19. Not very many children will die from covid19.

From the CDC website:

COVID-19 and Children
What is the risk of my child becoming sick with COVID-19?
Based on available evidence, children do not appear to be at higher risk for COVID-19 than adults. While some children and infants have been sick with COVID-19, adults make up most of the known cases to date. You can learn more about who is at higher risk for severe illness from COVID-19 at People who are at higher risk for severe illness.
 
We just got off our private school/what does next year look like call. Masks for kids even kindergarteners except during lunch which must be distanced (some kids will receive accommodations and use face shields or bandanas and teachers will use faceshields if around hearing impaired kids and no masks during sports/pe). Smaller distanced class sizes. Football and water polo are a challenge. Soccer is planning to go forward with some modifications being worked on by CIF (what those are who knows...don't know how you can distance soccer). Basketball will also move outside and will have some rules modifications (again, can't imagine how that's going to work). Band and choir moving outside. Visitors will be limited on campus so no spectators in sports. No assemblies, dances or plays (though for plays they talked about maybe zooming it or COVID testing the participants before performance). Mix of remote learning and in person for kids who are quarantined or feeling unwell. Temperature checks and questionnaires at drop off but no mass testing unless there's an incident or outbreak. They plan on buses but aren't sure how that will work at all and it may result in contact trace restrictions if someone on the bus comes down with it. They are anticipating not if but when there is an outbreak at school.

If other schools are thinking about these restrictions in the fall (and we were assured most of the major privates are on the same course), I don't see mass tournaments in Socal taking place in August (at least not like we are used to them).
So no masks during sports/PE where they will be breathing heavier? This defeats the purpose of wearing masks all day. These guidelines are insane, at this point with the data that has been put out, they are making the environment horrible for kids because a few parents that are worried. This is horrible.
 
So no masks during sports/PE where they will be breathing heavier? This defeats the purpose of wearing masks all day. These guidelines are insane, at this point with the data that has been put out, they are making the environment horrible for kids because a few parents that are worried. This is horrible.

Sports choir band will be outside where transmission rates are lower so it's science drive but your point it taken.

If anyone is going to Zona for soccer this summer, you might want to consider making your stay a little longer. At this point if it wasn't for work, I'd totally leave Cali. But yeah, again if this is the private schools, imagine what the public schools will be like......
 
Ill say this for the millionth time.
KEEP THE ELDERLY AND IMUNE COMPRIMISED AWAY FROM ANYONE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN EXPOSED!!! Take extra precautions around them!

You make it sound like every single kid lives with their grandparents! ISOLATE THE VULNERABLE NOT EVERY FRICKING PERSON!!
Even with all caps, you haven’t explained how to isolate the vulnerable. Most nursing homes are already on a nearly complete lockdown. But we still have 43,000 or so covid deaths in nursing homes.

If the existing nursing home lockdown doesn’t work, why would yours be any different?
 
Even with all caps, you haven’t explained how to isolate the vulnerable. Most nursing homes are already on a nearly complete lockdown. But we still have 43,000 or so covid deaths in nursing homes.

If the existing nursing home lockdown doesn’t work, why would yours be any different?

Nursing homes are now (mostly) in a lockdown. They all weren't. Florida's approach (ordering hospitals to keep COVID positive patients rather than send them back) was prescient. Part of the problem early on (and why the Tristate/New England numbers mortality numbers are skewed higher) is that those governors ordered nursing homes to take patients who were still COVID positive back. It was disastrous. The nursing home lockdown could be smarter (rapid COVID tests for workers, for example).

I'm pretty middle of the road politically but despite all the praise he got, Gov Cuomo in particular handled the situation disastrously and his policies led to many unnecessary deaths.
 
Nursing homes are now (mostly) in a lockdown. They all weren't. Florida's approach (ordering hospitals to keep COVID positive patients rather than send them back) was prescient. Part of the problem early on (and why the Tristate/New England numbers mortality numbers are skewed higher) is that those governors ordered nursing homes to take patients who were still COVID positive back. It was disastrous. The nursing home lockdown could be smarter (rapid COVID tests for workers, for example).

I'm pretty middle of the road politically but despite all the praise he got, Gov Cuomo in particular handled the situation disastrously and his policies led to many unnecessary deaths.
Is there evidence that a proper lockdown can protect nursing homes?

Or does it still leak in through the staff?
 
I’m hearing that teams practicing on K-12 fields are in trouble as they are being told the earliest they will be allowed in the fields is Aug 1st. Teams at park and college fields could begin soon with very strict guidelines
 
So what you are saying is let them get sick and expose their families?? They absolutely would be contagious to their families. The deaths we have to date have been with shelter at home and businesses closed and no in school instruction. I wonder how many kids will become infected and will die after all that is lifted and of course their family members.
The shelter at home people are somehow the majority of people that are getting sick and hospitalized. That alone should tell you that it's a failed policy.
 
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