What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?

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My kids attend a private school and their proposed covid protocols do not sound as extreme as what you are facing.
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Depends on the size. The big private schools (Oaks/Viewpoint/Campbell Hall/Harvard Westlake) all seem to be on the same page. Smaller schools (like my kid's current elementary school or the proposal I've seen from La Reina High School) are going to be more lax because they have some requirements in place already like smaller class sizes and are both in Ventura County (where masks so far are more lax). Outside of certain charters and magnets, the big problem for California public schools are the classes sizes and teacher limitations.....I don't know how you get around that with the current rules.
 
watfly said:
I'll post this again.
www.smithsonianmag.com

Why Experts are Almost Always Wrong

No one, not even the experts, really knows what's about to happen
www.smithsonianmag.com www.smithsonianmag.com

Another big failure by politicians and experts is they tried to force compliance through fear mongering and pretended that the rules were based on science, when in fact most weren't. For one example (there are endless examples), Pritzer limited boating in Illinois to two people per boat from the same family. Well if you were a family of 5 you were SOL and had to be split between 3 boats. When you make up arbitrary rules that defy common sense you lose credibility and people start to ignore legitimate rules. If we had to take a shot for every time a politician and their apologists says "we have to rely on the science" we'd all be alcoholics. There is this myth that science is some sort of consensus, when in reality it never is.

Its funny to me that if you disagree with any of the Covid lockdown rules, you get shamed for not believing in science or thinking your smarter than an expert. Apparently what ever a handpicked expert says, you should turn off your brain and not use your own common sense and thinking abilities...despite the fact that experts are rarely right or often change their opinions.
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Great points. Basically, stfu is all we have right now and or you don;t care about 80 years old dying at nursing homes and I will snitch on you if you break the mask rule that is more about fear than safety. I have to obey or I will be shamed 100%. I'm already a dumb dumb for asking the same folks questions about soccer and that is all in the past and is meaningless today. Today, this is way bigger than soccer and we all need to stay in our houses until after Nov 8th ((unless you work at Jimmie's pot shop or stater bros)) and collect more at home than go to work. Why work to play? Now, just stay home and play videos games and make more money by not working and just staying home.
Copa9 said:
You obviously don't have an older player. Olders at the higher level have been playing year round. They have now not played in any games since the middle of March. To throw them into a tournament when they haven't even practiced in three months, and will probably return to limited practice in June and probably won't have a "real" game until middle or late July, is really putting players at risk for injury. The older players have a lot on the line, for those who have not committed yet and for those who have not signed their NLI. Start the games but not college showcases/tournaments for them until September, October or November. The little ones can play because the risk/benefit is completely different. This has nothing to do with covid-19 and everything to do with preparing players and teams to be game ready for the showcases.
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We should never have been playing"year around soccer." That was dumb and is not high level nothing.....
Q. Who is advocating throwing anyone into some crazy tournament?
Q. My kid has been training every week. 10/40 yard dashes and lot's of ball collection. Shooting is next. Give my kid 30 days and I will/can throw her in any tournament that plays one game a day. No two games a day anymore. The highest level players never stop playing. Actually, the break has been great for the higher level players imo. No risk for my kid at all dude. Seriously, the way you write is all fear based writing and speculation.
I have a friend believe it or not that has a dd who is going to be a Jr. Plays top level ball. She is training as we speak bro. C'mon, what league are you in?
 
Soccermaverick said:
Young nurse’s death highlights questions about COVID-19 pandemic’s true toll
https://www.ajc.com/news/young-nurse-falls-ill-and-dies-unclear-covid-cause/ZVtsIalYXYBlDKSd7h9VDJ/
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you are the worst poster on this entire forum. you pick some random story about a "potential covid victim" and post it like some truth about the risks of a virus. thanks for your service, but you clearly have no expertise other than copy and pasting from the internet. please go away
 
dad4 said:
I am trying to get soccer back. I just think league play and scrimmages are a more viable path.

And all the teams practicing illegally don’t help. We need to prove that we can implement distancing and sanitation guidelines, and they are out there proving that we can’t.
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I respect that we have different ideas regarding the pace at which we should re-open. I can understand and respect the views of those that want to go slower and have a more measured approach. Where we diverge is when you say "...We need to prove that we can implement distancing and sanitation guideline..." We should not have to prove anything to anyone. IMO, the government has way over-stepped their boundaries. I don't want the government acting like my parent, and I am very concerned that with how easily we have allowed our rights to slip away, it will happen over and over again.
 
Wouldn't be surprised if full practices open in 2 weeks time and the masks go in the trash can.

Use this time to teach your kids how to make decisions best for them. Educate, research then decide. Personally I respect everyone's decision to come back or not but when that green light turns on make sure you have no regrets .
 
Newsom just announced the state will still dictate what is allowed, but the timeline of when to open things now in the hands of local counties. Not sure how that will effect youth sports
 
MyDaughtersAKeeper said:
I respect that we have different ideas regarding the pace at which we should re-open. I can understand and respect the views of those that want to go slower and have a more measured approach. Where we diverge is when you say "...We need to prove that we can implement distancing and sanitation guideline..." We should not have to prove anything to anyone. IMO, the government has way over-stepped their boundaries. I don't want the government acting like my parent, and I am very concerned that with how easily we have allowed our rights to slip away, it will happen over and over again.
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There are a lot of unintended consequences with a slow or restricted reopenings. For example, the San Diego beach reopenings were effectively limited to wet sand and boardwalks were closed. This actually created more crowding than had they just opened up everything at the beach (with the exception of parking lots). At high tide in particular you're left with only a few feet of suitable walking sand which resulted in people nearly climbing over each other. One common sense approach would have been to make the sand one direction and the boardwalk the other direction which would have cut congestion in half (and without opening parking lots it wouldn't have increased demand materially). Also allowing people to sit at the beach would have spread out contact because I suspect that a high percentage of those walking on the beach weren't really there to exercise but just to enjoy the beach. Restaurants opening with restricted capacity also caused more more issues, since the demand for restaurants was greater than capacity from what I saw last weekend in PB. This caused extremely long lines on the sidewalks where it is very difficult to achieve social distancing. You would have had less exposure if you just allowed restaurants to open at full capacity within reason.

The reality is that the unintended (but entirely predictable) health and economic consequences of the shutdown are far greater than the specific Covid health issues. This is clearly a case of the cure being worse than the disease.
 
MyDaughtersAKeeper said:
I respect that we have different ideas regarding the pace at which we should re-open. I can understand and respect the views of those that want to go slower and have a more measured approach. Where we diverge is when you say "...We need to prove that we can implement distancing and sanitation guideline..." We should not have to prove anything to anyone. IMO, the government has way over-stepped their boundaries. I don't want the government acting like my parent, and I am very concerned that with how easily we have allowed our rights to slip away, it will happen over and over again.
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You only have to document/prove safety measures if you want fields, insurance, or regulatory approval.

Other than that, you're home free.
 
BIGD said:
What do you think the schools should do?
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Let the kids learn as always, 30 per class, mask optional. Keep teachers distanced(10 ft should be easy) and mask if they want. Have complete lecture done on zoom as well for parents that want to keep their kids at home, or if the kid needs to be at home(sick with cold, cough, flu, etc.) One on one questions for teacher require a mask both parties, or is done by zoom during office hours.

All teacher instruction should be zoomed while teaching so that students can get the lecture when they can't make it to class. If our soccer coaches can zoom with 20 players, schools and teachers can provide the same.
 
socalkdg said:
Let the kids learn as always, 30 per class, mask optional. Keep teachers distanced(10 ft should be easy) and mask if they want. Have complete lecture done on zoom as well for parents that want to keep their kids at home, or if the kid needs to be at home(sick with cold, cough, flu, etc.) One on one questions for teacher require a mask both parties, or is done by zoom during office hours.

All teacher instruction should be zoomed while teaching so that students can get the lecture when they can't make it to class. If our soccer coaches can zoom with 20 players, schools and teachers can provide the same.
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Private schools can do this. Public schools can't because of the union and the California Dept of Education hasn't challenged them on it. And in most counties, the union has taken the position teachers aren't required to teach live classes on zoom since they aren't certified for online instruction. Classes might be recorded if your class sizes are large and you are 50% in 50% out, the 50% out is likely to be passive learning (e.g. homework, recorded lectures). The other fight with the union is going to be the extra work teachers will have to handle...the unions are refusing to put it on teachers without more pay. Get out of Dodge if you can.
 
gkmom said:
Newsom just announced the state will still dictate what is allowed, but the timeline of when to open things now in the hands of local counties. Not sure how that will effect youth sports
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dont believe that at all, if that were true he would have responded to the proposal from san diego thats been on his desk for 9 days.
 
gkmom said:
I heard him say it on his news conference at noon. I'll see if I can find a link
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He said it, but it's not unfettered discretion.

Gov. Newsom: California Starts Moving Into Phase 2 Reopening This Friday

Curbside retail pickup will be possible starting this Friday.
laist.com laist.com

REOPENING CALIFORNIA


Newsom said that "localism is determinative," with local areas being given freedom to make decisions around reopening businesses in their areas. However, he noted that counties have to attest to certain health standards before being able to move further into reopening. He went through a series of slides laying out why the state feels comfortable with moving further into reopening.


The state is allowing counties now to move into phase three at their own pace, but local public health officers will decide on the appropriate timing to reopen different sectors of the economy, Newsom said.


Phase four includes concerts, stadiums, festivals, and large conventions — Newsom said that the state isn't there yet, and no guidance has been provided for moving into that phase.


"No one will go forward to concerts, no one will be allowed to move forward with large venues like conventions and festivals, until we are in a much better position than we are today," Newsom said.


Newsom said that it's expected that there could be more spread of the disease as the state reopens.


"No one is naive about the reality of reopening our economy, and the expectation that as more and more people mix, and are not practicing physical distancing, are not wearing face coverings, that the likelihood that we see a larger spread of this disease presents itself," Newsom said.


The state has issued guidance for 17 sectors of the economy to reopen so far. Newsom noted that the state provides guidance on how to reopen, while counties decide when they'll reopen.


There are three steps as the state and counties monitor COVID-19, according to Newsom:


  • Step 1: Active monitoring: Seeing where there are flare-ups of coronavirus
  • Step 2: Targeted engagement: Working with local areas to get those flare-ups under control
  • Step 3: Reinstitute interventions: If things get out of control, the state will direct local health directors to bring back increased stay-at-home orders
 
There are three steps as the state and counties monitor COVID-19, according to Newsom:


  • Step 1: Active monitoring: Seeing where there are flare-ups of coronavirus
  • Step 2: Targeted engagement: Working with local areas to get those flare-ups under control
  • Step 3: Reinstitute interventions: If things get out of control, the state will direct local health directors to bring back increased stay-at-home order
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Step 3 is why if San Diego rushes back to life as usual and fails to follow precautions, it could end up being closed longer than LA, which seems to be taking a slower approach to reopening
 
Dargle said:

Step 3 is why if San Diego rushes back to life as usual and fails to follow precautions, it could end up being closed longer than LA, which seems to be taking a slower approach to reopening
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Youth sports gatherings still not given the go ahead even in SD county but the supervisors at least asked the state about that but still no deal or go according to Gaspar today after the briefing.
 
LA county given the go ahead to reopen barbershops, hair salons, and restaurants for in person dining. Still not gyms, playgrounds, piers, bars, rec centers, clubs or stadiums but they did say a "roadmap" will be published next week for sports venues so I have some hope.

If/when the playgrounds, rec centers, gyms, sports venues open youth sports will also.
 
jimlewis said:
you are the worst poster on this entire forum. you pick some random story about a "potential covid victim" and post it like some truth about the risks of a virus. thanks for your service, but you clearly have no expertise other than copy and pasting from the internet. please go away
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God Bless you... you are special in your own way... I bring this up for all the young soccer fans/ coaches who think they are immune. Don’t follow the old people trying to make money off of you. God bless.
 
lafalafa said:
LA county given the go ahead to reopen barbershops, hair salons, and restaurants for in person dining. Still not gyms, playgrounds, piers, bars, rec centers, clubs or stadiums but they did say a "roadmap" will be published next week for sports venues so I have some hope.

If/when the playgrounds, rec centers, gyms, sports venues open youth sports will also.
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Ugh. They’re nuts if they think a youth sports game outdoors is as risky as an adult gym indoors.
 
Chalklines said:
Wouldn't be surprised if full practices open in 2 weeks time and the masks go in the trash can.

Use this time to teach your kids how to make decisions best for them. Educate, research then decide. Personally I respect everyone's decision to come back or not but when that green light turns on make sure you have no regrets .
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So far not in any organizations guidelines to start will full practices wihout precautions.

Phased approach with a bunch of guidelines & restrictions are the only I've seen recommended from USclub, USYS, and others.
 
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