SoccerGuru
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Somehow, "absolute load of crap" is an understatement.
What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?
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Let your voice be heard talk with & email your local representives and the governor directly:
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Disneyland is still mulling over when they will open (mid July was the latest I heard) but youth soccer has to be back by then so can't be much longer.
Well said, best post in the last 3 months.
The steps that help is to put forth steps in how we are reducing risks of transmissions and controlling transmission once inevitable transmission had occurred. Steps that could be taken:
1. Clear social distancing policies throughout. Eg. Players and spectators to sit 6 feet apart unless they are in the game, temperature checks, test results
2. A system of contact tracing so that once an infection had been detected that all parties that had direct contact (own team and opposing team) is informed. Team, Opposing Team and direct family members go into self quarantine for 2 weeks as step to control the potential spread.
3. Guaranteed anonymity to players who step forth and inform about their infection/symptom. Perhaps reporting to a 3rd party. This is to encourage reporting.
What does not help is to play this down like a regular flu. This isn't like the regular flu. What is questioned is if a full lock down is necessary. If caught early enough social distancing appears good enough to control the spread so it appears a full lock down is not necessary. There is no country that had gone on like life is normal with no social distancing practices in place and all is well from Covid-19. We need things to open up as fast as we can handle the spread if not we will see more job losses and bankruptcies, but the opening up needs to be with extreme precaution because it isn't like the regular flu.
1. Clear social distancing policies throughout. Eg. Players and spectators to sit 6 feet apart unless they are in the game, temperature checks, test results
2. A system of contact tracing so that once an infection had been detected that all parties that had direct contact (own team and opposing team) is informed. Team, Opposing Team and direct family members go into self quarantine for 2 weeks as step to control the potential spread.
3. Guaranteed anonymity to players who step forth and inform about their infection/symptom. Perhaps reporting to a 3rd party. This is to encourage reporting.
What does not help is to play this down like a regular flu. This isn't like the regular flu. What is questioned is if a full lock down is necessary. If caught early enough social distancing appears good enough to control the spread so it appears a full lock down is not necessary. There is no country that had gone on like life is normal with no social distancing practices in place and all is well from Covid-19. We need things to open up as fast as we can handle the spread if not we will see more job losses and bankruptcies, but the opening up needs to be with extreme precaution because it isn't like the regular flu.
I don't know... its pretty bad out there. I think California should stay locked down until at least Aug 1. Better to be safe.. Think of the children.
This way us in Arizona and Texas can get nearly 2 full months of practice in while you are still in your homes. Just need for Surf Cup to actually happen in mid to late August. That would be optimal. Red state mafia...
This way us in Arizona and Texas can get nearly 2 full months of practice in while you are still in your homes. Just need for Surf Cup to actually happen in mid to late August. That would be optimal. Red state mafia...
That essentially amounts to no tournaments/no games because you can't operate like that when the virus is so widespread. Someone else pointed out for the schools it's going to be a huge problem.
There are 2 types of test and trace out there. The Asian countries do a hard test and trace: if you are exposed, you are hard shut sometimes with an ankle monitor and sometimes removed from your family. In SK because of the nightclub outbreak first 600 and (when it got to a distribution center) now over 6000 people are in quarantine. SK may still be lucky to beat it back (it could just as easily spin out of control) but it's experience shows the limit of T&T and a hard T&T only works if you've smothered it early before it gets widespread and if you have a buy in from the population. But can you imagine if someone coming down with it, riding the NY Subway, and then quarantining everyone? Or one player at Surf Cup (or any soccer tournament) comes down with it and now you are quarantining 5 teams, families and referees? Chris Cuomo, N. Fergueson, Obama, Lightfoot, Pritzker, Trudeau, De Blasio, Whitmer, and conservative Cummings couldn't keep the rules, you really think all those people will without the harsh South Korean measures?
Then there's the Soft T&T (which most, but not all, of Europe is adopting....some like the UK seem intent on doing a mid level T&T). You notify people. You get them tested. You quarantine the ones that come down positive. Until a vaccine gets here (and even then) it's never going to be "safe"...we either do it or we don't....
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Fantastic post. I would applaud you if I could.
SoccerGuru
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Serie A gets green light to return on June 20
Serie A will return on June 20 after an agreement was reached Thursday between league bosses and the country's government.
They probably had the worst outbreak of anyone and they are coming back.
If Arizona wasn't so absurdly hot during the summer, the AZ clubs would be smart to put on a bunch of tourney's in the next couple months. I'd bet they would have a solid turnout from SoCal teams, particularly SD.
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I'm personally ready to have my kids train and play again. But if you're going to post something like this, you should include the complete story.Serie A gets green light to return on June 20
Serie A will return on June 20 after an agreement was reached Thursday between league bosses and the country's government.www.espn.com
They probably had the worst outbreak of anyone and they are coming back.
Italy's curve:
Our curve:
Attachments
How is it pretty bad out there.
I’m out here having 5 to 8 people meetings 3 to 4 times a week, face to face.
Walk around fulfillment centers, Food factories, Refineries, places with thousands of people working.
It’s no different than before.
You follow the least necessary or required things to go in or out and it’s no big deal.
This thing has been blown way out of proportion.
SoccerGuru
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I think you missed the sarcasm in that post
Shocker to the world.
We are using mitigating technology at the very end of the food chain.
Powerful UVC lights that are in existence, it kills Virus, among other things.
Respirators are actually killing people, if you get sick and you are in a healthy condition, and go to the hospital they will send you home and prescribe blood thinners.
Corona Virus causes Thrombosis in the lungs.
it would be better if they counted the deaths if they actually did autopsies on the bodies.
Italy did.
Link here:https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20054262v1
Take the necessary steps.
Exercise, eat right, take your vitamins and live life.
Don’t panic.
We are using mitigating technology at the very end of the food chain.
Powerful UVC lights that are in existence, it kills Virus, among other things.
Respirators are actually killing people, if you get sick and you are in a healthy condition, and go to the hospital they will send you home and prescribe blood thinners.
Corona Virus causes Thrombosis in the lungs.
it would be better if they counted the deaths if they actually did autopsies on the bodies.
Italy did.
Link here:https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20054262v1
Take the necessary steps.
Exercise, eat right, take your vitamins and live life.
Don’t panic.
Deaths in the U.S. for the time period
2/1/2020 to
5/16/2020
Children Ages 0-14
COVID19
12
Pneumonia
120
Influenza
95
The concern for children is that getting sick isn't fun.
But with 101,573 deaths and only 12 being kids under 14, the percentage of total deaths attributed to kids under 15 is
.01 percent
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku
Kids as carriers is a concern, but you could make the case that we are better off letting them play, get exposed, get over the illness and then not be contagious to all those people in their lives that might be at risk for Covid19.
2/1/2020 to
5/16/2020
Children Ages 0-14
COVID19
12
Pneumonia
120
Influenza
95
The concern for children is that getting sick isn't fun.
But with 101,573 deaths and only 12 being kids under 14, the percentage of total deaths attributed to kids under 15 is
.01 percent
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku
Kids as carriers is a concern, but you could make the case that we are better off letting them play, get exposed, get over the illness and then not be contagious to all those people in their lives that might be at risk for Covid19.
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why doesn't anyone understand this? 75% of deaths are over 65
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Change your name to Karen already
The older higher level teams know the amount of practice they need to get into game ready condition. July and August in Arizona, I don't think so. Maybe the u littles could play because the games are shorter, there is a lot of kick ball soccer, less skills and less intense than the olders.
Latest news out of Washington state today is that 50% of all the new covid-19 cases are under 40. Has the virus begun mutating? I guess we will all find out.
So what you are saying is let them get sick and expose their families?? They absolutely would be contagious to their families. The deaths we have to date have been with shelter at home and businesses closed and no in school instruction. I wonder how many kids will become infected and will die after all that is lifted and of course their family members.