What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?
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I’m not worried.
I come in contact with lots of people everyday, part of my job.
A few of them have been infected and are back to work.
80% is over blown.
Everyone is different
We do what we choose to live our lives.
I’m on the front lines, making sure there is Food at the places you buying from, clothes, gas, Electricity and many other things.
But you are entitled to your opinion just like anyone else.
I agree about "each to his or her own" and I really understand the fear people have. For the top top players, they need to play. Parents don;t need to be there early on. It seems like when folks talk about Surf Cup or SilverLakes there talking about the old format and all the crowds. No NO NO No!!!! No jump houses, No this and No that. Just soccer. Pay more for just a real competitive soccer tournament ((No showcase)). That should be easy to do by August. Too many people who got left out of ECNL come on here complaining and that is lame. Stay home and stay safe. Let the other top top players and risk takers take a chance like they always do. My dd plays her ass off ((when the game matters)) and can die or risk serious injury every-time I watch her play. She plays with Ganas and when one plays all out, they can go out and get hurt or die!!! I'm 100% more afraid of her tearing her ACL then catching the Corona and sneezing it unto some soul who will then pass it unto an older person and they die because my dd risked playing soccer with other 15 and 16 year olds. What kind of quilt trip is that for? Is this for real? Whatever!!! I will obey my health officials no matter what they say. No cheating. However, I can and will question decisions being made......I think there is a misconception on here that some are saying there should absolutely be no soccer period. I think it's more accurate to say they are looking at the reality of it being approved so quickly by the government, getting permits, insurance approved, etc. I think it's fair to say everyone understands you have the choice to not send your kid, they are just looking at it from a logistical standpoint. I believe everyone here would love to see soccer start as soon as possible. Some just have different perspectives than others, which is fair. I think we should all understand we have different opinions, and everyone has a right to their own
SoccerGuru
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Do you keep your kid home from school if you hear some kid threw up in class? Do you keep them home if you find out a kid had the flu the day before and didn't come to school the next day? That is the equivalent of what you just said. I see how you are trying to throw worst case scenarios out there and scare people but you do it only to fit your narrative. The truth of the matter is, is it possible that some might get the virus? Yes. Will most of them even know? No. Will it affect their life in any way? No. Should anyone over the age of 65 be at this tournament? No. Seems pretty clear cut that the risk is low. But, everything has risk and if you want to live your life hiding from it, I will respect what you decide and I won't judge you but I certainly won't follow you.
JumboJack
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Either we open now or we wait for a vaccine. What is the point of waiting another week or two or three? To flatten the curve? We all know that was an absolute load of crap. So if it's not safe now it won't be until there is a vaccine (or cure/treatment), right? I don't think anyone is thinking that the virus is just going to go away. We are not going to get heard immunity with everyone hiding under their beds.
SoccerGuru
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Somehow, "absolute load of crap" is an understatement.
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Disneyland is still mulling over when they will open (mid July was the latest I heard) but youth soccer has to be back by then so can't be much longer.
Well said, best post in the last 3 months.
The steps that help is to put forth steps in how we are reducing risks of transmissions and controlling transmission once inevitable transmission had occurred. Steps that could be taken:
1. Clear social distancing policies throughout. Eg. Players and spectators to sit 6 feet apart unless they are in the game, temperature checks, test results
2. A system of contact tracing so that once an infection had been detected that all parties that had direct contact (own team and opposing team) is informed. Team, Opposing Team and direct family members go into self quarantine for 2 weeks as step to control the potential spread.
3. Guaranteed anonymity to players who step forth and inform about their infection/symptom. Perhaps reporting to a 3rd party. This is to encourage reporting.
What does not help is to play this down like a regular flu. This isn't like the regular flu. What is questioned is if a full lock down is necessary. If caught early enough social distancing appears good enough to control the spread so it appears a full lock down is not necessary. There is no country that had gone on like life is normal with no social distancing practices in place and all is well from Covid-19. We need things to open up as fast as we can handle the spread if not we will see more job losses and bankruptcies, but the opening up needs to be with extreme precaution because it isn't like the regular flu.
1. Clear social distancing policies throughout. Eg. Players and spectators to sit 6 feet apart unless they are in the game, temperature checks, test results
2. A system of contact tracing so that once an infection had been detected that all parties that had direct contact (own team and opposing team) is informed. Team, Opposing Team and direct family members go into self quarantine for 2 weeks as step to control the potential spread.
3. Guaranteed anonymity to players who step forth and inform about their infection/symptom. Perhaps reporting to a 3rd party. This is to encourage reporting.
What does not help is to play this down like a regular flu. This isn't like the regular flu. What is questioned is if a full lock down is necessary. If caught early enough social distancing appears good enough to control the spread so it appears a full lock down is not necessary. There is no country that had gone on like life is normal with no social distancing practices in place and all is well from Covid-19. We need things to open up as fast as we can handle the spread if not we will see more job losses and bankruptcies, but the opening up needs to be with extreme precaution because it isn't like the regular flu.
I don't know... its pretty bad out there. I think California should stay locked down until at least Aug 1. Better to be safe.. Think of the children.
This way us in Arizona and Texas can get nearly 2 full months of practice in while you are still in your homes. Just need for Surf Cup to actually happen in mid to late August. That would be optimal. Red state mafia...
This way us in Arizona and Texas can get nearly 2 full months of practice in while you are still in your homes. Just need for Surf Cup to actually happen in mid to late August. That would be optimal. Red state mafia...
That essentially amounts to no tournaments/no games because you can't operate like that when the virus is so widespread. Someone else pointed out for the schools it's going to be a huge problem.
There are 2 types of test and trace out there. The Asian countries do a hard test and trace: if you are exposed, you are hard shut sometimes with an ankle monitor and sometimes removed from your family. In SK because of the nightclub outbreak first 600 and (when it got to a distribution center) now over 6000 people are in quarantine. SK may still be lucky to beat it back (it could just as easily spin out of control) but it's experience shows the limit of T&T and a hard T&T only works if you've smothered it early before it gets widespread and if you have a buy in from the population. But can you imagine if someone coming down with it, riding the NY Subway, and then quarantining everyone? Or one player at Surf Cup (or any soccer tournament) comes down with it and now you are quarantining 5 teams, families and referees? Chris Cuomo, N. Fergueson, Obama, Lightfoot, Pritzker, Trudeau, De Blasio, Whitmer, and conservative Cummings couldn't keep the rules, you really think all those people will without the harsh South Korean measures?
Then there's the Soft T&T (which most, but not all, of Europe is adopting....some like the UK seem intent on doing a mid level T&T). You notify people. You get them tested. You quarantine the ones that come down positive. Until a vaccine gets here (and even then) it's never going to be "safe"...we either do it or we don't....
SoccerGuru
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Fantastic post. I would applaud you if I could.
SoccerGuru
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Serie A gets green light to return on June 20
Serie A will return on June 20 after an agreement was reached Thursday between league bosses and the country's government.
They probably had the worst outbreak of anyone and they are coming back.
If Arizona wasn't so absurdly hot during the summer, the AZ clubs would be smart to put on a bunch of tourney's in the next couple months. I'd bet they would have a solid turnout from SoCal teams, particularly SD.
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I'm personally ready to have my kids train and play again. But if you're going to post something like this, you should include the complete story.Serie A gets green light to return on June 20
Serie A will return on June 20 after an agreement was reached Thursday between league bosses and the country's government.www.espn.com
They probably had the worst outbreak of anyone and they are coming back.
Italy's curve:
Our curve:
Attachments
How is it pretty bad out there.
I’m out here having 5 to 8 people meetings 3 to 4 times a week, face to face.
Walk around fulfillment centers, Food factories, Refineries, places with thousands of people working.
It’s no different than before.
You follow the least necessary or required things to go in or out and it’s no big deal.
This thing has been blown way out of proportion.
SoccerGuru
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I think you missed the sarcasm in that post
Shocker to the world.
We are using mitigating technology at the very end of the food chain.
Powerful UVC lights that are in existence, it kills Virus, among other things.
Respirators are actually killing people, if you get sick and you are in a healthy condition, and go to the hospital they will send you home and prescribe blood thinners.
Corona Virus causes Thrombosis in the lungs.
it would be better if they counted the deaths if they actually did autopsies on the bodies.
Italy did.
Link here:https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20054262v1
Take the necessary steps.
Exercise, eat right, take your vitamins and live life.
Don’t panic.
We are using mitigating technology at the very end of the food chain.
Powerful UVC lights that are in existence, it kills Virus, among other things.
Respirators are actually killing people, if you get sick and you are in a healthy condition, and go to the hospital they will send you home and prescribe blood thinners.
Corona Virus causes Thrombosis in the lungs.
it would be better if they counted the deaths if they actually did autopsies on the bodies.
Italy did.
Link here:https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20054262v1
Take the necessary steps.
Exercise, eat right, take your vitamins and live life.
Don’t panic.
Deaths in the U.S. for the time period
2/1/2020 to
5/16/2020
Children Ages 0-14
COVID19
12
Pneumonia
120
Influenza
95
The concern for children is that getting sick isn't fun.
But with 101,573 deaths and only 12 being kids under 14, the percentage of total deaths attributed to kids under 15 is
.01 percent
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku
Kids as carriers is a concern, but you could make the case that we are better off letting them play, get exposed, get over the illness and then not be contagious to all those people in their lives that might be at risk for Covid19.
2/1/2020 to
5/16/2020
Children Ages 0-14
COVID19
12
Pneumonia
120
Influenza
95
The concern for children is that getting sick isn't fun.
But with 101,573 deaths and only 12 being kids under 14, the percentage of total deaths attributed to kids under 15 is
.01 percent
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku
Kids as carriers is a concern, but you could make the case that we are better off letting them play, get exposed, get over the illness and then not be contagious to all those people in their lives that might be at risk for Covid19.