What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?

SoccerFan4Life said:
CDC just said today that they have enough resource to show that mask covers about 50% of virus. Most countries in the world are using.
Personally, I don’t understand why people have a problem wearing masks to go to stores. Exercising is a different issue but going to a store is not a big deal.
Now to the good news! Phase 3 has begun in all but 11 counties. Wednesday the state will begin to talk about summer camp guidelines. I can’t wait to get my kids out of the house. Lol.
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The fun/non-soccer camp my kid goes to just rolled out its guidelines: no pool, no horse back riding, no bus, sack lunches, masks required, distancing. Can't see many people taking them up on that offer unless they are really hung up for day care, but they'll be operating at reduced capacities anyways. Soccer camps can't operate under those guidelines....the only thing they could do is coerver and agility all day long, at least until the first kid passes out from the mask and the heat.

The other issue with the masks is that they are not all created equal. That 50% figure applies to surgical masks. The bandanas don't really seem to do anything with most fabrics, especially after a wash. You'd actually be better off with that stupid crochet mask Alyssa Milano got ridiculed for (it has a carbon filter).

I saw the first soccer camp going on advertised on the soccer boards for Temecula. Large crowd of kids, no distancing. I'm pretty much in the "we are overreacting" camp but doubt I'd let me kid attend that....at a minimum I can't see how he has insurance coverage for the camp and since they are doing pickup games an injury is not just possible but probable.
 
Grace T. said:
The fun/non-soccer camp my kid goes to just rolled out its guidelines: no pool, no horse back riding, no bus, sack lunches, masks required, distancing. Can't see many people taking them up on that offer unless they are really hung up for day care, but they'll be operating at reduced capacities anyways. Soccer camps can't operate under those guidelines..

I saw the first soccer camp going on advertised on the soccer boards for Temecula. Large crowd of kids, no distancing. I'm pretty much in the "we are overreacting" camp but doubt I'd let me kid attend that....at a minimum I can't see how he has insurance coverage for the camp and since they are doing pickup games an injury is not just possible but probable.
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Zero deaths in California for under 18. Only 5% covid cases for 0-17 age group. 80% deaths for over 65 years of age. What’s holding you back from sending kids to summer camps?
 
jpeter said:
ECNL put out guidelines for return to play:
Only about 5 states have any return to play dates so far, Return to play recommendations
https://t.co/4SV3cEVUzi?amp=1

Phased approach, 5 steps.
starts with 9 + a coach and will be 6-10 weeks before play to reduced risk & injury.

Face masks use by players & coaches should be in accordance with local guidelines noted in phase 2.

Cal south needs to come up with something eventually but they don't to be in a rush since no dates on the horizon just yet.

In any case this is going to drive up the cost of youth sports will all the new guidelines some clubs & facilities just won't be affordable or practical anymore as a result.
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9+ a coach, huh? With many ecnl teams having rosters of 20+. And limited field space. Would like to see how this can work. If the younger age group (non ecnl) teams are allowed back at the same time- if there is limited field space (due to 9 players at a time) which team gets short changed?
 
Grace T. said:
The fun/non-soccer camp my kid goes to just rolled out its guidelines: no pool, no horse back riding, no bus, sack lunches, masks required, distancing. Can't see many people taking them up on that offer unless they are really hung up for day care, but they'll be operating at reduced capacities anyways. Soccer camps can't operate under those guidelines....the only thing they could do is coerver and agility all day long, at least until the first kid passes out from the mask and the heat.

The other issue with the masks is that they are not all created equal. That 50% figure applies to surgical masks. The bandanas don't really seem to do anything with most fabrics, especially after a wash. You'd actually be better off with that stupid crochet mask Alyssa Milano got ridiculed for (it has a carbon filter).

I saw the first soccer camp going on advertised on the soccer boards for Temecula. Large crowd of kids, no distancing. I'm pretty much in the "we are overreacting" camp but doubt I'd let me kid attend that....at a minimum I can't see how he has insurance coverage for the camp and since they are doing pickup games an injury is not just possible but probable.
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I would estimate that at least 85% of Temecula residents think Covid-19 is a hoax.
 
timbuck said:
9+ a coach, huh? With many ecnl teams having rosters of 20+. And limited field space. Would like to see how this can work. If the younger age group (non ecnl) teams are allowed back at the same time- if there is limited field space (due to 9 players at a time) which team gets short changed?
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I don't know how it will work, and my kid has not shared any details of what her cub is doing. But if I were the coach, I would break the team into two groups of 9 (1 keeper in each group & assuming 18 are ready to train). Sessions are as back to back as I can make them. 1 group is ending while the next group is warming up would be ideal. Get the girls working on conditioning, long passes, through balls, longer range ball movement, etc... Yes you would need a large area to work with, but if you can find that (while not breaking any rules) then it would be a way to get back into some type of rhythm. I don't want anyone to get sick or spread the virus, but I would like to see some small return to normalcy, for her mental health and mine.
 
MyDaughtersAKeeper said:
I don't know how it will work, and my kid has not shared any details of what her cub is doing. But if I were the coach, I would break the team into two groups of 9 (1 keeper in each group & assuming 18 are ready to train). Sessions are as back to back as I can make them. 1 group is ending while the next group is warming up would be ideal. Get the girls working on conditioning, long passes, through balls, longer range ball movement, etc... Yes you would need a large area to work with, but if you can find that (while not breaking any rules) then it would be a way to get back into some type of rhythm. I don't want anyone to get sick or spread the virus, but I would like to see some small return to normalcy, for her mental health and mine.
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yep- will definitely require most teams to be broken up into 2 sessions. Will coaches get paid extra for this? Will parents pay more? Will sessions be shorter in length (IE- half of you work on fitness on your own by running around the park for 45 minutes, while the other works on soccer for 45 minutes)
Regardless of what works out for each club/team/player - It will be great to get back out there.
 
timbuck said:
yep- will definitely require most teams to be broken up into 2 sessions. Will coaches get paid extra for this? Will parents pay more? Will sessions be shorter in length (IE- half of you work on fitness on your own by running around the park for 45 minutes, while the other works on soccer for 45 minutes)
Regardless of what works out for each club/team/player - It will be great to get back out there.
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My guess is some coaches will be grouping player into the A team (starters) and the B team, particularly if there's a keeper with each.
 
timbuck said:
yep- will definitely require most teams to be broken up into 2 sessions. Will coaches get paid extra for this? Will parents pay more? Will sessions be shorter in length (IE- half of you work on fitness on your own by running around the park for 45 minutes, while the other works on soccer for 45 minutes)
Regardless of what works out for each club/team/player - It will be great to get back out there.
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Yeah let's hope June not July but kind of late of June permits.

In any case with limited 9 players going to required twice the time or twice the field space both which cost more money. Times that by 5 teams and the costs add up.

Covid19 surcharges could be a common extra free so won't be surprised to see those in youth sports also.
 
lafalafa said:
That maybe not go down smoothly since everyone should some what have a chance to earn spots in preseason.and 11 are needed for either.
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Coaches play favorites. There's also the keeper equivalency problem. If you only have 1, well who does the keeper go with (does the other squad shoot on an empty net...not very fair to the keeper to have to rotate practice times between 2 squads)? If you have 2 and they aren't equivalent, who gets the weaker one?...anyone with the weaker keeper is going to get bent out of shape they are on the "B" squad, unless you put the top scorers on that squad (which shortchanges both the lead keeper and the top scorer's training). You could say maybe no shooting but doubt that's going to las very long.

But I think the most likely outcome is that several coaches cheat on the rules and hope they don't get caught (it's easier than dealing with the complaints). If there are already some teams practicing in violation of the rules, it wouldn't surprise me, particularly if they have to try out new players.
 
LA county school opening guidelines released to give you a idea:

LA County Releases Framework For Reopening Schools

The guidelines suggest schools could look very different from what we are used to.
laist.com laist.com

"The framework for reopening schools released Wednesday, May 27 by the Los Angeles County Department of Education reveals potentially stark changes to the traditional school day for some 2 million students and their families.The 2020-21 school year redesigned for the pandemic could include:

Classroom limits of 16 students

Staggered restroom and playground use
One-way hallways
Cloth face coverings mandatory for all
Isolation rooms and emergency plans if students or staff members become ill

So what does that mean for youth soccer? Restrictions on field usage if thats permitted?
 
jpeter said:
LA county school opening guidelines released to give you a idea:

LA County Releases Framework For Reopening Schools

The guidelines suggest schools could look very different from what we are used to.
laist.com laist.com

"The framework for reopening schools released Wednesday, May 27 by the Los Angeles County Department of Education reveals potentially stark changes to the traditional school day for some 2 million students and their families.The 2020-21 school year redesigned for the pandemic could include:

Classroom limits of 16 students

Staggered restroom and playground use
One-way hallways
Cloth face coverings mandatory for all
Isolation rooms and emergency plans if students or staff members become ill

So what does that mean for youth soccer? Restrictions on field usage if thats permitted?
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Surveys sent out for our school district indicating a possible hybrid approach mix of online & in person
 
jpeter said:
LA county school opening guidelines released to give you a idea:

LA County Releases Framework For Reopening Schools

The guidelines suggest schools could look very different from what we are used to.
laist.com laist.com

"The framework for reopening schools released Wednesday, May 27 by the Los Angeles County Department of Education reveals potentially stark changes to the traditional school day for some 2 million students and their families.The 2020-21 school year redesigned for the pandemic could include:

Classroom limits of 16 students

Staggered restroom and playground use
One-way hallways
Cloth face coverings mandatory for all
Isolation rooms and emergency plans if students or staff members become ill

So what does that mean for youth soccer? Restrictions on field usage if thats permitted?
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I just don't see how they can enforce some of these rules. If a kid forgets something in the hallway or back at his classroom he has to go all the way around the building to get it because one way only? They are kids, will be a joke if a kid gets punished for not walking one way.

Soccer is one of the few sports that works out for the covid concern. 11 v 11 on very spread out formations, you only truly come in contact with others when the ball is nearby and the ball only touches your feet not hands, not perfect but better scenario then other sports. Not to mention soccer is played outdoors. Football starts every play with D line and O line in a very compact area. Basketball is a big concern because of the small compact area and multiple teams packed into a indoor basketball court. I think youth soccer will be fine and everyone will most likely be playing in the fall with guidelines for parents and players.
 
timbuck said:
Maybe we will see the end of throw ins. Everything is a kick in. 10 yards of space required by the opponent. To be honest- I like this idea.
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For the olders with throw ins and the long ones it's almost like a freekick with a frenzy in the box but no I don't think they'll be a end to throwing it in the box attempting to score on a header or one timer.

Soccer is a contact sport with players in close proximity most all the time, there is plenty of contact and there is really no way around it without changing the game to something else, look but don't touch flag soccer might work for the youngest kids but would take the fun out of it for virtually every one else.
 
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