War in Ukraine soon?

whatithink said:
I think that advise would be wrong. Putin's actions have strengthened Nato like nothing before in decades. The Russian military performance in Ukraine has exposed them in an extremely unflattering light. If they actually hit targets in Poland, the Poles will 100% retaliate and Nato is compelled to go all in. I could see Nato immediately imposing a no fly zone and giving Russia 24 hours to get out of dodge, if even that. If anything, the western hawks must be licking their lips at the prospect of a pop at Russia ... nukes aside obviously, which is a very large "aside" admittedly. That scenario has Ukraine in Nato, alongside Finland & Sweden in all likelihood, with the potential that Ukraine rolls into Crimea (with Nato screaming stop probably).
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Yeah but these are the same brilliant thinkers that said the west would never sanction him, germany would never cut its nose off, and the Ukrainians would welcome them with open arms with flags and flowers. Our experts aren't the only ones subject to bubble think.
 
dad4 said:
You unfurl a banner in Beijing that says “6/4/1989”. I unfurl a banner in Washington that says “6/4/1951”.

We wait to see which one of us gets arrested.
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I would bet you neither would be arrested. You remind me of paranoid grandmas.
 
Grace T. said:
He's seriously gone full b shit crazy.......

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The best guess I've heard is steroid abuse.

Builds muscle, causes paranoia, and weakens the immune system.

Makes sense for a muscle bound 69 year old threatening WWII from one end of a 12 meter long table.
 
Grace T. said:
He's seriously gone full b shit crazy.......

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He may be " Crazy ", but he isn't stupid.

Joe Biden and his corrupt administration have no idea what they are
getting America and its citizens into.

Everything this guy stated on March 14th is TRUE.

A False Flag Is Coming - YouTube

Biden needs to be removed from office immediately as he is deliberately provoking
a lunatic thug ( Putin ) that will not hesitate in escalating this manufactured fiasco to
Defcon 1.

Criminally corrupt Vladimir Putin and Criminally corrupt Joeseph Biden are playing
a bluffing game that Biden initiated.
Putin is an insane criminal thug that has Biden's number.
Biden is a drug addled, dementia ridden lying scum bag who has no spine.

This is not a recipe I or the rest of the " Aware " PLANET want played out.
 
dad4 said:
The best guess I've heard is steroid abuse.

Builds muscle, causes paranoia, and weakens the immune system.

Makes sense for a muscle bound 69 year old threatening WWII from one end of a 12 meter long table.
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That’s funny given the Russian Olympic Program’s history of performance enhancing drugs.
 
I guess I still have have not gotten the memo on how to program my brain to take on the new position which I am suppose to take.

Based on my old source RT which has now been censored from youtube, I should support Russia because
1. The US backed coup in 2014 overthrew a legally elected government of Ukraine which resulted in the Eastern regions rebelling and Ukraine in a civil war for the past 8 years.
2. Russia enterring the conflict thus putting an end to that civil war. 15000 lives that have been lost in that civil war
3. Expansion of NATO into Ukraine which contradicts verbal promises given by the US since the end of the cold war. This war ends that.
4. Ukraine government led by a small minority of ultra right wingers but holding leadership positions and critical in the overthrow of the Ukrainian government in 2014 must be dealt with.
5. Chemical and biological weapons found inside Ukraine are funded by the USA. New development here which may lead to more expose and investigation to the extend of US involvement in biological and chemical warfare.


Now, based on my new source CNN, I should support Ukraine because
1. Russia is a big country with Putin who is a dangerous man. Invading a small country is a no no.
2. Everything Putin does is up to no good.
3.

As you can see, I still have not gotten all the memo in how I am supposed to be brainwashed to be pro Ukraine.
 
blam said:
I guess I still have have not gotten the memo on how to program my brain to take on the new position which I am suppose to take.

Based on my old source RT which has now been censored from youtube, I should support Russia because
1. The US backed coup in 2014 overthrew a legally elected government of Ukraine which resulted in the Eastern regions rebelling and Ukraine in a civil war for the past 8 years.
2. Russia enterring the conflict thus putting an end to that civil war. 15000 lives that have been lost in that civil war
3. Expansion of NATO into Ukraine which contradicts verbal promises given by the US since the end of the cold war. This war ends that.
4. Ukraine government led by a small minority of ultra right wingers but holding leadership positions and critical in the overthrow of the Ukrainian government in 2014 must be dealt with.
5. Chemical and biological weapons found inside Ukraine are funded by the USA. New development here which may lead to more expose and investigation to the extend of US involvement in biological and chemical warfare.


Now, based on my new source CNN, I should support Ukraine because
1. Russia is a big country with Putin who is a dangerous man. Invading a small country is a no no.
2. Everything Putin does is up to no good.
3.

As you can see, I still have not gotten all the memo in how I am supposed to be brainwashed to be pro Ukraine.
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Give yourself more credit. I think you’ve been brainwashed quite effectively.

Credit for that goes to Pooh Bear.
 
blam said:
I guess I still have have not gotten the memo on how to program my brain to take on the new position which I am suppose to take.

Based on my old source RT which has now been censored from youtube, I should support Russia because
1. The US backed coup in 2014 overthrew a legally elected government of Ukraine which resulted in the Eastern regions rebelling and Ukraine in a civil war for the past 8 years.
2. Russia enterring the conflict thus putting an end to that civil war. 15000 lives that have been lost in that civil war
3. Expansion of NATO into Ukraine which contradicts verbal promises given by the US since the end of the cold war. This war ends that.
4. Ukraine government led by a small minority of ultra right wingers but holding leadership positions and critical in the overthrow of the Ukrainian government in 2014 must be dealt with.
5. Chemical and biological weapons found inside Ukraine are funded by the USA. New development here which may lead to more expose and investigation to the extend of US involvement in biological and chemical warfare.
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  1. In 2014 the Ukrainian president was voted out of office, unanimously, by the Ukrainian parliament, because he reneged on plans to sign treaties with the EU but instead he (not Ukraine) wanted closer ties with Russia. Is that your coup?
  2. In 2014, Russia invaded the Crimean peninsula, an area recognized internationally as being sovereign Ukrainian territory. It has harbored and supported separatists in two other Ukrainian provinces since. That conflict, started and sustained by Russia, has cost some 15000 lives.
  3. Sovereign countries get to choose their own destiny. That's how it works.
  4. Now you are getting silly, Russia is ruled by an autocratic dictator, you do know that, right?
  5. Beyond silly ... you were doing so well.
 
Ahh what the heck... I'll bite. My thoughts in red...


blam said:
I guess I still have have not gotten the memo on how to program my brain to take on the new position which I am suppose to take.

Based on my old source RT which has now been censored from youtube, I should support Russia because
1. The US backed coup in 2014 overthrew a legally elected government of Ukraine which resulted in the Eastern regions rebelling and Ukraine in a civil war for the past 8 years. I'm trying to remember, was this "legally elected" government the one Putin was backing after Russian spies poisoned President Yushchenko or was it before. Remember that? How his face was all disfigured. Anyway can't be bothered to look but as I recall I don't think a single nation outside the Russian sphere of influence recognized that election as 'legal'... including the citizens of Ukraine given how strongly they are currently fighting for self autonomy at the present moment.

2. Russia enterring the conflict thus putting an end to that civil war. 15000 lives that have been lost in that civil war Again not an expert on the history of Ukraine, but the brute fact that Ukraines are fighting and dying to be outside the Russian sphere of influence speaks pretty darn loudly to me about what the Ukrainian people themselves think about the Russians saving them in 2014 regardless of what you heard on RT. I mean really, why do the Russians always got to build walls to keep their people in?

3. Expansion of NATO into Ukraine which contradicts verbal promises given by the US since the end of the cold war. This war ends that.
Verbal Promises? I don't think that's how this works...

4. Ukraine government led by a small minority of ultra right wingers but holding leadership positions and critical in the overthrow of the Ukrainian government in 2014 must be dealt with. Again... this narrative would be a stronger argument if the Russians were being greeted as liberators.

5. Chemical and biological weapons found inside Ukraine are funded by the USA. New development here which may lead to more expose and investigation to the extend of US involvement in biological and chemical warfare. And this is true because you say so? Hmm...


Now, based on my new source CNN, I should support Ukraine because
1. Russia is a big country with Putin who is a dangerous man. Invading a small country is a no no.
2. Everything Putin does is up to no good.
3.
Invading a small country is a no no? Haha
Listen, here in the real world where treaties are written down my understanding is Ukraine only agreed to give on the nuclear weapons the fall USSR had placed there during the cold war. While I can appreciate the Russian desire return to it's cold war glory... surely we can agree that if there is any hope to denuclearize the world of atomic weapons then now is a time when we must stand up and protect the nations that have de-armed themselves from foreign aggressors. Putin has really gone too far this time and there is really only one way this ends and that's with a free Ukraine. Even if they are a small country.

As you can see, I still have not gotten all the memo in how I am supposed to be brainwashed to be pro Ukraine.
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The projections are getting really bad...epic level bad...2008 level event bad at least....this author calls it the Great Inflation which will likely be followed by a recession. Quadruple storm of COVID shortages, government policies, the war in Ukraine, and now China supply disruptions due to their shaky economy and COVID zero lockdowns. Fed is being timid in tackling it, though rates are rising, for fear of triggering a full blown depression...but it's not going to be enough to offset the fundamentals building on the other side.

MSN

www.msn.com
 
Grace T. said:
The projections are getting really bad...epic level bad...2008 level event bad at least....this author calls it the Great Inflation which will likely be followed by a recession. Quadruple storm of COVID shortages, government policies, the war in Ukraine, and now China supply disruptions due to their shaky economy and COVID zero lockdowns. Fed is being timid in tackling it, though rates are rising, for fear of triggering a full blown depression...but it's not going to be enough to offset the fundamentals building on the other side.

MSN

www.msn.com
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All this from the war in Ukraine?
 
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