Vaccine

Desert Hound said:
So we are back to what the CDC and other health organizations knew long ago. Masks are not effective at stopping respiratory virus type infections. Funny how that works.


There is a growing consensus that cloth masks do very little to prevent the SARS-CoV-2 virus from spreading. Even surgical masks are probably only marginally effective. Although N95 and KN95 masks have shown some effectiveness for preventing infection when worn by vulnerable individuals, these higher-quality devices only work provided the mask is worn correctly — a particularly challenging task for younger children, who remove and reapply their masks throughout the day.

So far only two randomized controlled trials — the highest standard of evidence — have been conducted to test masking for COVID prevention. A Danish study found no statistically significant benefit from surgical masks. A study in Bangladesh reported no benefit from cloth masks and only very modest impact from surgical masks (which appeared to evaporate in a subsequent reanalysis of the raw data). This is unsurprising, given that numerous controlled trials in health care and other settings have similarly found masks to be ineffective for preventing the spread of other respiratory viruses such as influenza.
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Desert Hound said:
In very large numbers of cases, judges are not experts in the matter at hand.

In a crime case...they are not experts in forensics.

In telecommunication cases...they are not experts in the technology underlying the issues.

Etc etc.

Their job is to rule on the law and how it was written and if the law is applied correctly.

If you go by the standard a judge has to be an expert to be a judge in a case, then in an amazing amount of cases they are not.

That is rather a weak argument on your part. One that does stand up to scrutiny.

They rule on a huge variety of issues of which they have no expertise in.
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My point is that judges often issue rulings based on things they don’t understand, and they are wrong to do so.

It’s a real problem in criminal justice. Prosecution would select experts who made wildly exaggerated claims about the accuracy of specific methods, like hair analysis.

Later, when real science was available, we find out that hair analysis was about as accurate as phrenology. But hundreds of judges fell for it hook, line, and sinker.
 
Desert Hound said:
The problem espola and others have is this.

The efficacy of espola's mask does not depend on whether or not someone else is wearing a mask or not. If they work, then a lifting of a travel mask mandate makes little difference since those that want to wear a mask still can.

But as we look at infection rates between mandate states and non mandate states unfortunately we do not see any correlation between wearing masks and infection. If there were any studies showing masks were effective...we would KNOW about those now. And yet years into this we don't have those studies. Rather telling. But when you BELIEVE in something it takes on more of a religious feeling...facts be dammed.

And yet as we look at the data regarding infection rates in mandate vs non mandate states we see no real difference in infection rates.

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The CULT of Covid-19 + ( The Jab ) = Jim Jones Koolaid

One killed rather quick, the other takes about 18 months.

The end result is the same.
 
GoldenGate said:
I just fired yet anti-vaxxer. It was so much fun. She came begging for her job back after the EDD told her to "stick it" by denying her unemployment. Ha ha. I can't wait until you're all unemployed.
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Kicker 2.0 said:
More proof you’re just an attention hungry POS!
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That is not something to brag about GoldenGate, you are one
vindictive POS.....
You better watch your back with spiteful actions like that.
 
GoldenGate said:
I'm not the insubordinate anti-vaxxer who refused to wear a mask indoors. Good riddance. She can exercise her "freedom" to work somewhere else.
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not believing this

I can’t imagine someone who has the authority to terminate people”s employment would post something like this
 
Brav520 said:
not believing this

I can’t imagine someone who has the authority to terminate people”s employment would post something like this
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GG doesn't, GG read it on reddit and thought it would be cool to post. Or maybe overheard conversation at the grocery store checkout line...and thought it would be cool to post.
 
dad4 said:
So, she was a tax lawyer for 3 years, a clerk for 4 years, and counsel to an associate AG?

Sounds like a newbie to me.

When did she take her aerosol physics classes? I hear she thinks she‘s something of an expert of the subject.
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Curious, you still wearing a mask?
 
dad4 said:
Did you know that you can type anything you want in these boxes, but if you include some bold text and a link, it looks like you actually quoted someone competent?
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Well that's what social media is all about, right. Arguing policy is one thing. Anybody's opinion goes. Arguing the basis for policy is different, and appeal to authority is how that game is played in a public forum. For example, the Ian Miller graph on masks that came up awhile ago. His analysis is based on NYT data off Github, but he never provides information-at least on his Twitter site-on how he processes that data to derive his graph. Without that its kind of information its just another trust issue. And in point of fact, since I've done it, you can down load the county resolution data from NYT and by binning it one way you can get all kinds of different things. Obviously lots of variables in play.
 
dad4 said:
Did you know that you can type anything you want in these boxes, but if you include some bold text and a link, it looks like you actually quoted someone competent?
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Did you know that when someone clearly identifies how wrong you were, you instantly deflect and write something that is totally irrelevant?

Just come clean! It will feel so much better...just say, yep, I was wrong, I believed those in power and they mislead me, I will be more selective in those I put my trust in and be careful who I criticize when they can actually be right!!!! and now you know!
 
MicPaPa said:
Curious, you still wearing a mask?
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Why not?

I don't hate them like you do. They remain a low cost way to moderately reduce transmission.

We can assume that you or hound or someone similar will copy and paste some kind of misinformation claiming that masks are horrible and do nothing. It will have some bold letters and a link to a study that says the opposite of what you claim.
 
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