Vaccine

I absolutely love the fact that you own your words, such conviction and mastery of the topic. What exactly is a remedial science class?

You do make a good sheep, thinking that public health and hosptitals have hit homeruns in pandemic response. Oh, let's not forget your local and state government agencies. They've been on it too. Mask on, mask off. Vaxx on, Vaxx off. I'm sure you can't wait for the u5 vaccine to take off - then you'll finally feel safe. All of those snotty ulittles spreadin that covid to everyone, jumpstarting breakthrough infections, havens for mutating virus.

You are such a beloved clown.

If hospitals and public health officials are telling you something, absolutely positively don't believe it! Am I right? Our very lives depend on disregarding the CDC, the AMA, the American Association of Pediatrics, the NIH, virtually every hospital in America and California's public health agencies. Plus the NYT, OSHA, California's public health agencies, the NYT, WaPo, the LA Times. They are all part of an anti-science conspiracy to kill our children. Believe one guy in Louisiana instead! I don't know anything about him, but he is clearly the only one standing up for science and freedom! Vaccines kill! Masks kill!
 
If hospitals and public health officials are telling you something, absolutely positively don't believe it! Am I right? Our very lives depend on disregarding the CDC, the AMA, the American Association of Pediatrics, the NIH, virtually every hospital in America and California's public health agencies. Plus the NYT, OSHA, California's public health agencies, the NYT, WaPo, the LA Times. They are all part of an anti-science conspiracy to kill our children. Believe one guy in Louisiana instead! I don't know anything about him, but he is clearly the only one standing up for science and freedom! Vaccines kill! Masks kill!
You’re rambling again…tell you what…why don’t you get off the board, go find someone nice, have a kid, then come back and let us know how it all worked out. You’re just one of those kids who listened so wholeheartedly to your professor that you failed to do any intellectual thinking on your own. Go free young grasshopper
 
You’re rambling again…tell you what…why don’t you get off the board, go find someone nice, have a kid, then come back and let us know how it all worked out. You’re just one of those kids who listened so wholeheartedly to your professor that you failed to do any intellectual thinking on your own. Go free young grasshopper

I'm sorry, you couldn't find a real doctor to support anything you're saying? Just a former UFC announcer and some joke of a doctor you don't know anything about who may or may not even be real? You guys really need to go back to the Bangladesh and Polish "studies" that you found from your alt right fringe websites.

Seriously, what led to your mental break? How did you ever get from being just a pretty dumb HS student to believing that the American Association of Pediatrics is really a cabal of evil baby killers? Did you just wake up one day and say, "Wow, that UFC announcer really makes a lot of sense with his 'outside the box' free thinking that is the opposite of what just about every public health agency and hospital is saying?" Or did you ease into conspiracy theories with Costner's JFK movie followed by some Swift boating?
 
When you were sitting in the back of the HS civics class that you eventually failed, did you day dream that one day you and an anonymous "news" aggregator would save the world by exposing the LA Times, the NY Times, the Washington Post, the CDC, the AMA, the American Association of Pediatrics and virtually every healthcare provider in America as frauds and engaged in a conspiracy to destroy our children's self-esteem?

Hey, where'd doctor quackapotomus go to medical school? Care to chime in on this guy's work history and expertise? How 'bout his "expert opinion" about how the vaccine is killing 2x more people than it saves? About how he thinks people should be more worried about the medical industries' conspiracy to silence him than Qanon? I take it he and crush are geniuses?

And what about this Citizen Free Press? A pillar of journalistic excellence am I right? Are only the most qualified (mostly anonymous) freedom lovers allowed to post articles there? That article about feminine hygiene products in a Drexel U men's room would be Pulitzer for sure if it weren't in on the conspiracy too. Seriously, everyone is in on this conspiracy. So conspiratorial.
...so no, you lack intestinal fortitude. Shocked!
 
I'm sorry, you couldn't find a real doctor to support anything you're saying? Just a former UFC announcer and some joke of a doctor you don't know anything about who may or may not even be real? You guys really need to go back to the Bangladesh and Polish "studies" that you found from your alt right fringe websites.

Seriously, what led to your mental break? How did you ever get from being just a pretty dumb HS student to believing that the American Association of Pediatrics is really a cabal of evil baby killers? Did you just wake up one day and say, "Wow, that UFC announcer really makes a lot of sense with his 'outside the box' free thinking that is the opposite of what just about every public health agency and hospital is saying?" Or did you ease into conspiracy theories with Costner's JFK movie followed by some Swift boating?
...for the love of God man...not John Kerry! You're broken.
 
I'm sorry, you couldn't find a real doctor to support anything you're saying? Just a former UFC announcer and some joke of a doctor you don't know anything about who may or may not even be real? You guys really need to go back to the Bangladesh and Polish "studies" that you found from your alt right fringe websites.

Seriously, what led to your mental break? How did you ever get from being just a pretty dumb HS student to believing that the American Association of Pediatrics is really a cabal of evil baby killers? Did you just wake up one day and say, "Wow, that UFC announcer really makes a lot of sense with his 'outside the box' free thinking that is the opposite of what just about every public health agency and hospital is saying?" Or did you ease into conspiracy theories with Costner's JFK movie followed by some Swift boating?

you are on fire today!! I actually woke up and saidwhy does there have to be so many idiots that are afraid to think on their own and have an actual intellectual debate, because people like you can’t handle being wrong. You are incapable of thinking for yourself so you have others do it for you. So once someone questions your judgment, you jump straight to antI vaxxer and name calling. Your card house is starting to crumble and you fear you have been wrong this whole time.

Here is the logic you follow and believe in… next week kids dont need to wear mask, but if they don’t wear a mask today they get sent out of the class…I can see you supporting that…that’s good science you are following…you are brilliant…hahaha how do you buy that stuff…you’re high school education just be lacking more than mine…lol
 
Getting vaxxed with proven vaccines, that actually prevent the spread and ability to catch the disease, is a lot different than a covid flu shot!! You do know that the flu shot is a vaccine right? As far as I know there is no mandate to get that...hmm
So the vaccine providing a far better chance of limited symptoms and chance of being hospitalized or death is not good enough for you?
 
It's just nuts. There is a reason why nurses and other healthcare workers in hosptitals are leaving - on to greener pastures where the pay is better and the leadership more logical. Good money to be made in telehealth, sales, traveling . Good on them but hospitals will suffer.
A friend just came home from the hospital after needed surgery with Covid. Went in with a negative came out with a positive.
 
So the vaccine providing a far better chance of limited symptoms and chance of being hospitalized or death is not good enough for you?
For myself, I got Covid, I didn’t go to hospital or have symptoms severe enough to feel like I need to get it…doesn’t mean that everyone shouldn’t get it, but for me there wasn’t a need.
 
If hospitals and public health officials are telling you something, absolutely positively don't believe it! Am I right? Our very lives depend on disregarding the CDC, the AMA, the American Association of Pediatrics, the NIH, virtually every hospital in America and California's public health agencies. Plus the NYT, OSHA, California's public health agencies, the NYT, WaPo, the LA Times. They are all part of an anti-science conspiracy to kill our children. Believe one guy in Louisiana instead! I don't know anything about him, but he is clearly the only one standing up for science and freedom! Vaccines kill! Masks kill!
Guy in louisina?wut?
 
sorry to hear that..happens all the time. Was everyone wearing N95s, surgical masks? or no masks? Vaccination status of your friend, of the statff?
He’s fully vaxxed, no visitors of course so only came in contact with staff. He says it was probably the surly nurse who wasn’t so friendly.
 
They were just wrong on pretty much everything.....


A couple thoughts. First, why do the anti-vaxxers use non-peer reviewed "studies", "articles" and Tik tok as "proof" of something that reinforces their bias, but reject studies that don't, even if they have been peer reviewed? Second, who are these people who did this "study"? The answer for people like Grace is "who cares if it supports my position".

Most importantly, though, what did this study actually do and what did it actually find? Well, it found that wearing masks did have a significant impact at the youngest age groups that it analyzed. It also looked only at kids 3-11, which is obviously very different than dealing with middle and high school kids in the US who move from class to class and social interaction to social interaction all day long, rendering single classroom protective measures far less effective. Furthermore, it noted that vax rates for students in Catalonia is much, much higher than in the US, except at those younger age groups where vaccination requirements do not apply. In other words, it looks very much like a combination of vaccination and mask wearing is very effective where vaccination rates are lower like, um, the U.S.

Do you want to know what other evidence supports this conclusion? Well, the equestrian would know the answer if she actually read the article. Or maybe she did and, rather than just being an easily duped idiot who relies on twitter soundbites, she's intentionally misleading people because she knows her fellow anti-vax/maskers don't read and couldn't understand it even if they did. Regardless, her "study" references another study involving the dumbest state in the US - Arizona - and guess what that study found? It found that the odds of an outbreak in K-12 in AZ were 3-5x higher without an early mask mandate than with. So shocking. It also quoted the following from yet another US study "By analysing 520 counties during the first two months of the 2021-22 academic year in the USA, it was found that those counties without a [mask] mandate presented greater increases ni paediatric [Covid-19] cases." The study also admitted that in Spain they have shitty masks. In sort, if the equestrian actually read the article, she would know this "study" is a minority view and is apparently contradicted by every single study that analyses mask effectiveness in the United States, where vax rates are much lower and masks therefore a more important part of a school system's ability to limit Covid transmission. So why has she reached a definitive opinion knowing that - at best - for her most studies reach the opposite conclusion?
 
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