Vaccine

1. I agree he’s a provocateur. He’s so provocative he’s invited both sides of the covid debate including Gupta. He regularly invites members of both ends of the political aisles and both sides of covid policy. There are individuals from both sides who avoid him because the long format interview is a good way to look foolish, but one side avoids him more (wonder why)?
2. He’s not very bright. The rebuttal to the vaccine argument is that if omicron infects everyone eventually including the vaxxed, by boost vaccine you are raising your risk of heart issues by the inevitable covid infection times the heart risk + the no of vaccine doses times the heart risk v just the inevitable covid infection times the heart risk. A Uk study also found greater heart risk from the vaccine than natural covid in some younger groups of males particularly with moderna but the study has come under some attacks for its controls. If he were brighter he would have been able to point this out but he isn’t the brightest bulb in the barrel and that’s not his strength.
3. that’s different from the issue of how those that disagree are treating him. The letter circulated treats him like a public Menace, not just a provocateur. You have experience in this: doesn’t everyone say to not feed the trolls? That’s not how some are reacting: they want him burned at the stake for challenging the covidIan faith.

The heart conditions cited are mild and temporary.
 
Yeah, tell that to the face of someone who actually has heart inflammation. You should try standing in someone else's shoes, it might give you a different perspective.
We have some heartless souls on the planet still. These types have been around a long time and all they do is judge themselves with guilt and then judge others with shame and lies because they chose to be liars because they see the world as a big lie. They got lied to so they lie. Lie spreads bro faster then a virus. Our world is a big lie and that lie will be shown by the TRUTH. You shall see the TRUTH bro. I love you :)
 
Yeah, tell that to the face of someone who actually has heart inflammation. You should try standing in someone else's shoes, it might give you a different perspective.

Similar argument --

Air travel is the safest method of transportation, with 0.07 deaths every billion passenger-miles.

Watfly-like response -- "Try telling that to the families of the 9/11 airplanes"
 
Similar argument --

Air travel is the safest method of transportation, with 0.07 deaths every billion passenger-miles.

Watfly-like response -- "Try telling that to the families of the 9/11 airplanes"
Yeah, well I would never tell the family that lost a family member in an airplane crash that "sorry Joe died, but you know air travel is really safe". So no, your example is not remotely similar.
 
No he is just another provocateur making a buck by giving half truths and lies the same credence as fact without vetting. Quacks and snake oil salesmen have always been pointed out so the naive and uncultured can see the error in their ways. Yet some will always continue to cling to their hopes.
Your ignorance of the subject is showing again.
 
No he is just another provocateur making a buck by giving half truths and lies the same credence as fact without vetting. Quacks and snake oil salesmen have always been pointed out so the naive and uncultured can see the error in their ways. Yet some will always continue to cling to their hopes.
So what would you recommend? Censorship of opinion speech? Disclaimers or labeling on these shows? If so, who would determine what qualifies as half-truths and opinion...Tipper Gore?

Keep in mind that the vaccine was sold as stopping infection and ending the pandemic by the President, some "mainstream" pundits and many in the scientific community. So there has been some half-truths involved with it. How should we handle that? Is it OK to lie in the name of "caution"?

I think you're wanting to fix stupid, which I can appreciate, but I lean more to Darwin doing that than our government.
 
So what would you recommend? Censorship of opinion speech? Disclaimers or labeling on these shows? If so, who would determine what qualifies as half-truths and opinion...Tipper Gore?

Keep in mind that the vaccine was sold as stopping infection and ending the pandemic by the President, some "mainstream" pundits and many in the scientific community. So there has been some half-truths involved with it. How should we handle that? Is it OK to lie in the name of "caution"?

I think you're wanting to fix stupid, which I can appreciate, but I lean more to Darwin doing that than our government.

The Darwin solution will eventually work, but don't try telling that to the families of those who die because of depending on it.
 
The heart conditions cited are mild and temporary.
mild and temporary , children, omicron. see how that works? Old = get vaccinated, healthy and young = nope.

jury is still out on heart inflamation. VAERS is likley undereported and data is still relatively immature. Maybe it turns out to be nothing, maybe it does. Risk/benefit is the answer. Why would you boost a healthy, vaccinated child? Why were they vaccinated in the first place???Parent's choice (their choice to make).
 
mild and temporary , children, omicron. see how that works? Old = get vaccinated, healthy and young = nope.

jury is still out on heart inflamation. VAERS is likley undereported and data is still relatively immature. Maybe it turns out to be nothing, maybe it does. Risk/benefit is the answer. Why would you boost a healthy, vaccinated child? Why were they vaccinated in the first place???Parent's choice (their choice to make).
Watch this bro

 
The Darwin solution will eventually work, but don't try telling that to the families of those who die because of depending on it.
so dramatic. What is he saying that is killing people? The Darwin solution? Funny...I would guess that most people who routinley listen to Rogan have the intellectual capacity to discern what he is saying. I would also guess that the majority of his guests are vaccinated, even the "quacks".

I do love how he is in everyone's head. Must be the highpoint of his career - a sternly worded letter written about him.
 
so dramatic. What is he saying that is killing people? The Darwin solution? Funny...I would guess that most people who routinley listen to Rogan have the intellectual capacity to discern what he is saying. I would also guess that the majority of his guests are vaccinated, even the "quacks".

I do love how he is in everyone's head. Must be the highpoint of his career - a sternly worded letter written about him.

I was just following watfly's lead on how to frame a rebuttal.
 
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