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A better argument than there's no with/for problem would have been if you had argued yes there's been an over count, and yes this was a problem, but that over count was skewed differently in previous waves. For example, one SF ER doc whose tweets I follow currently estimates about 60% of admits are with COVID and 40% are for....in previous waves he estimated 50/50....original wild type during lockdowns 70% for/30% with (which would make sense because in lockdown hospitals were turning away non emergency cases). But just like the cloth masks, you can't help letting in just a little bit of daylight for fear it will tumble down the entire edifice of faith. You are like my religion teacher that I wrote about who lost it on the "if God created adam and eve, and Caine and Abel married, where did their wives come from" question.

We already had this discussion. There are instances of overcount, and there are instances of undercount. But there was not any reason to believe that the net result was a large overcount. If anything, the net result is most likely to have been an undercount, as evidenced by the uptick in overall deaths per capita.

That was a lot of irrelevant ad-hominem religion comments. You wasted almost half of your words on it.
 
We already had this discussion. There are instances of overcount, and there are instances of undercount. But there was not any reason to believe that the net result was a large overcount. If anything, the net result is most likely to have been an undercount, as evidenced by the uptick in overall deaths per capita.

That was a lot of irrelevant ad-hominem religion comments. You wasted almost half of your words on it.

1. The overcount excess death has been largely explained at this point. The NYT article on children for example and the opioids as well as medical events that went untreated. I'm sure there is some overcount in deaths, but it's skewed towards the beginning of the pandemic, when testing wasn't as readily available.
2. That has nothing to do though with the hospitalization overcount which is all overcount.
3. We've already had the discussion re ad-hominems. Per the test espola set out, they aren't ads as they don't go to your character, only the nature of your arguments. Therefore they have his blessing.
4. As the king of the subtle insults, your hypocrisy is showing.
 
1. The overcount excess death has been largely explained at this point. The NYT article on children for example and the opioids as well as medical events that went untreated. I'm sure there is some overcount in deaths, but it's skewed towards the beginning of the pandemic, when testing wasn't as readily available.
2. That has nothing to do though with the hospitalization overcount which is all overcount.
3. We've already had the discussion re ad-hominems. Per the test espola set out, they aren't ads as they don't go to your character, only the nature of your arguments. Therefore they have his blessing.
4. As the king of the subtle insults, your hypocrisy is showing.
Girls are killing themselves 51% more then before Covid.
 
Credentials can be overrated. You don’t want to rely on someone who repeatedly brings up her grades and test scores from 3 decades ago.

Hey I'll take it! Next time you make an appeal to expertise I'll be sure to throw "credential can be overrated" right back at you!

p.s. I'm loving this box that espola built. My entire schtick is that credentialism is overrated. Not only do I have espola but I have you agreeing!
 
I guess if you make up a word you get to define it as well.

cre·den·tial·ism
/krəˈden(t)SHəˌlizəm/

noun

  1. belief in or reliance on academic or other formal qualifications as the best measure of a person's intelligence or ability to do a particular job.
    "credentialism is to a large degree responsible for people assuming that they need a degree"
 
Note further N95s aren't recommended for young children (IIRC it's 8 at the youngest) and KN95s have been found to be worse than cloth if there are 3mm holes. Surgicals present a similar problem. Without fitting, there isn't really a practical way to mask very young children (as opposed to teens).

 
Hey I'll take it! Next time you make an appeal to expertise I'll be sure to throw "credential can be overrated" right back at you!

p.s. I'm loving this box that espola built. My entire schtick is that credentialism is overrated. Not only do I have espola but I have you agreeing!

You want your 30 year out of date humanities degree to count the same as scientists with 30 years of relevant experience?

No.

The humanities degree qualifies you to bullshit with confidence, but nothing more.
 
Hey I'll take it! Next time you make an appeal to expertise I'll be sure to throw "credential can be overrated" right back at you!

p.s. I'm loving this box that espola built. My entire schtick is that credentialism is overrated. Not only do I have espola but I have you agreeing!

With respect to credentials, I watched three people get fired from where I worked at the time who had credentials equivalent to mine but who couldn't do the work.
 
Note further N95s aren't recommended for young children (IIRC it's 8 at the youngest) and KN95s have been found to be worse than cloth if there are 3mm holes. Surgicals present a similar problem. Without fitting, there isn't really a practical way to mask very young children (as opposed to teens).

masking young children is foolish. Adults can barely wear their mask properly. Raise your hand if you've adjusted your mask in public at least 5 times in 5 minutes. Or walked around and watched people wear them just below the nose while in close contact with someone else. Never mind the plexiglass barriers that you talk around at (insert name of department/grocery store here).
 
You want your 30 year out of date humanities degree to count the same as scientists with 30 years of relevant experience?

No.

The humanities degree qualifies you to bullshit with confidence, but nothing more.

I have a math/computer science degree, even though the details of my education are more in line with a physics or electrical engineering degree. Even so, I found myself in need of re-education every couple of years as the technology ran away. Those early '80s were a race to keep up -- by the time we finished a project, much of the technology was obsolete. Then in the '90s, we were producing portable computers for the Army, so there was no shortage of funding (and a guaranteed market) to turn over CPU board designs twice a year.
 
 
We need Jim Rockford badly. I used to watch him on Friday nights before my big AYSO games on Saturday mornings. Rain or shine we were ready to play and Jim was a smart cat who knew things deeply.

 
You want your 30 year out of date humanities degree to count the same as scientists with 30 years of relevant experience?

No.

The humanities degree qualifies you to bullshit with confidence, but nothing more.
1. Your hypocrisy is showing again because you’ve discounted several experts with such credentials and experience you’ve dismissed as quacks. You also dismiss front line doctors with a lot more experience
2. Espolas insult to hound was based on general education and an oblique reference to literature, not science
3. You are backpedaling. Your words not mine: credentialism can be overrated.
 
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