Vaccine

dad4 said:
It's almost as though there is some kind of difference between today's covid and the original covid.

You know, like maybe one version has a lower case spike and more severe symptoms.

But the other had a very high case spike but relatively mild symptoms.

If that were true, the later version would create enough mildly symptomatic cases to mess with the data, even though the first did not.

The really should look into that. Maybe give each version it's own name so dumbfucks don't get them confused.
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1. We posted evidence that this was happening previously in this forum long before the omicron, including people dying from accidents being marked as COVID.
2. We posted jurisdictions previously having reviewed this as well, and lowering their numbers as a result. Some were better than others which didn't bother to do this.
3. For you to believe your own rationalization, you'd have to believe that now they are marking people in the hospitalization numbers because they test positive while giving birth, being treated for an accident, or undergoing some other treatment, but with previous versions everyone who went into the hospital went in for a serious case and there weren't these incidentals. Wow!

That's some seriously mind bending pieces of mental gymnastics right there. There really isn't any length of rationalization you won't go to in order to protect your priors.
 
Dr. Robert on Dr. Fauci. "It’s Tony. What can I say? Tony has no integrity. He lies all of the time. And me and my peers have been watching this for decades. We just shrug our shoulders and shake our heads and say it’s Fauci.”
 
kickingandscreaming said:
You are missing the point. It would have been as easy initially to make the distinction between being hospitalized with COVID or being hospitalized because of COVID. Why now? This isn't how trust is built but that ship has likely already sailed.
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Why now? Because we now have a large population of patients who test positive but are not medically impacted. Back then, we did not.

I am not convinced there ever was a way to keep your trust. One group was going to tell you that you needed to wear a mask, skip restaurants, and meet only outside. The other group was telling you that it’s all a scam and you can do whatever you like.

No real surprise you preferred group two. The second group was telling you what you wanted to hear.
 
dad4 said:
Because we now have a large population of patients who test positive but are not medically impacted. Back then, we did not.
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Wow!!! All cases were serious??? All cases admitted to the hospital were because they needed serious medical care? No one just positive because they were giving birth?

So, then asymptomatic spread wasn't a thing???? If so, WHY THE HELL DID THEY TELL US WE NEEDED TO WEAR MASKS BECAUSE OF ASYMPTOMATIC SPREAD?
 
Grace T. said:
1. We posted evidence that this was happening previously in this forum long before the omicron, including people dying from accidents being marked as COVID.
2. We posted jurisdictions previously having reviewed this as well, and lowering their numbers as a result. Some were better than others which didn't bother to do this.
3. For you to believe your own rationalization, you'd have to believe that now they are marking people in the hospitalization numbers because they test positive while giving birth, being treated for an accident, or undergoing some other treatment, but with previous versions everyone who went into the hospital went in for a serious case and there weren't these incidentals. Wow!

That's some seriously mind bending pieces of mental gymnastics right there. There really isn't any length of rationalization you won't go to in order to protect your priors.
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As usual, you started with half a fact with poor attribution ("my cousin told me") and constructed a grand conspiracy.
 
dad4 said:
Why now? Because we now have a large population of patients who test positive but are not medically impacted. Back then, we did not.

I am not convinced there ever was a way to keep your trust. One group was going to tell you that you needed to wear a mask, skip restaurants, and meet only outside. The other group was telling you that it’s all a scam and you can do whatever you like.

No real surprise you preferred group two. The second group was telling you what you wanted to hear.
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We've known since near the beginning of the pandemic that there has been a misidentification issue between died with Covid and died because of Covid. Your "things change" rationalizations continue to miss the mark.

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espola said:
As usual, you started with half a fact with poor attribution ("my cousin told me") and constructed a grand conspiracy.
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Nah....no grand conspiracy......if you'll recall the history of this I told you I suspected what was happening based on anecdotes and a few pieces of anecdotal evidence, you said there was no evidence, evidence began to roll in, eventually the health authorities like Fauci even agreed, I laughed at you as you stubbornly refuse to admit you were wrong and I was right (again!), and now I'm continuing to laugh at you for the egg on your face.
 
espola said:
As usual, you lean on the high-class education credential despite everyone being able to see the result.
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As usual, you miss the point that your attack on Desert Hound made no sense in light of my high-class education credentials (s plural). It places you in the bind of having inadvertently given Hound a compliment (at least from an elitist credentialist point of view) or saying such credentialism doesn't/shouldn't matter. Quite a little box you built for yourself.
 
dad4 said:
Why now? Because we now have a large population of patients who test positive but are not medically impacted. Back then, we did not.

I am not convinced there ever was a way to keep your trust. One group was going to tell you that you needed to wear a mask, skip restaurants, and meet only outside. The other group was telling you that it’s all a scam and you can do whatever you like.

No real surprise you preferred group two. The second group was telling you what you wanted to hear.
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A better argument than there's no with/for problem would have been if you had argued yes there's been an over count, and yes this was a problem, but that over count was skewed differently in previous waves. For example, one SF ER doc whose tweets I follow currently estimates about 60% of admits are with COVID and 40% are for....in previous waves he estimated 50/50....original wild type during lockdowns 70% for/30% with (which would make sense because in lockdown hospitals were turning away non emergency cases). But just like the cloth masks, you can't help letting in just a little bit of daylight for fear it will tumble down the entire edifice of faith. You are like my religion teacher that I wrote about who lost it on the "if God created adam and eve, and Caine and Abel married, where did their wives come from" question.
 
dad4 said:
Why now? Because we now have a large population of patients who test positive but are not medically impacted. Back then, we did not.
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And? It would have proved their point if they all were in because of COVID. I'm not arguing it isn't different now but any math person worth a damn understands that changing how data is collected also ruins any possibility of comparing the data across time. If it's a good idea now, it was a good idea then.

dad4 said:
I am not convinced there ever was a way to keep your trust. One group was going to tell you that you needed to wear a mask, skip restaurants, and meet only outside. The other group was telling you that it’s all a scam and you can do whatever you like.
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This is funny. I still wear a mask and continue to observe all local mandates wherever I happen to be. My trust isn't something anyone needs to worry about as far as COVID goes beyond how I vote. However, there are others out there as angry or angrier than you are. Our leaders didn't do a good job of keeping their trust.
 
“I write this email knowing that many of you will think I’m crazy after reading it,” Bateman wrote in an email sent out early Tuesday morning. “I believe there is a sadistic effort underway to euthanize the American people. It’s obvious now. It’s undeniable, yet no one is doing anything. Everyone is discounting their own judgement and dismissing their intuition.

“I believe the Jews are behind this.”

www.deseret.com

Utah tech entrepreneur and GOP fundraiser calls COVID-19 vaccines an extermination plot by ‘the Jews’

Dave Bateman resigns from Entrata board in wake of antisemitic email.
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So now we have that to worry about.
 
espola said:
“I write this email knowing that many of you will think I’m crazy after reading it,” Bateman wrote in an email sent out early Tuesday morning. “I believe there is a sadistic effort underway to euthanize the American people. It’s obvious now. It’s undeniable, yet no one is doing anything. Everyone is discounting their own judgement and dismissing their intuition.

“I believe the Jews are behind this.”

www.deseret.com

Utah tech entrepreneur and GOP fundraiser calls COVID-19 vaccines an extermination plot by ‘the Jews’

Dave Bateman resigns from Entrata board in wake of antisemitic email.
www.deseret.com www.deseret.com

So now we have that to worry about.
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I think we would all agree that that is "bat shit" crazy type stuff, and wildly inappropriate.
 
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