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"Red America has largely stopped debating any new Covid-19 measures. But Blue America has not yet figured out whether it wants normality, what it can live with, and at what cost to them electorally and economically

 
"Red America has largely stopped debating any new Covid-19 measures. But Blue America has not yet figured out whether it wants normality, what it can live with, and at what cost to them electorally and economically

An article in National Review explaining Democratic thought is about as useful as NYT’s artcles explaining how Republicans think. In both cases, the author just doesn’t get it.

Take a look at Newsom’s mask rule. It lasts all of one month. It’s pretty clearly trying to limit delta transmission over the holidays, and that’s about it.

It also has no particular enforcement mechanism. He assumes that most of us will just put on our masks.

Now, will this work in your area? That’s a different question.
 
It lasts all of one month.

I remember this dance. Just like 14 days to slow the spread, then a month, then...well you know how it goes until Joe Biden's mask for 100 days.

The enforcement mechanism is the counties. Some counties may defy it. Will be curious to see if Orange, San Diego, San Bernardino go along with it, but that's the pressure point. Then the other pressure point is either corporations (who have a compliance rule that they need to cooperate with local regs...which is why for example the chains are enforcing the mask mandate in VC while some smaller businesses are saying F it) or licensing (I suspect things have gotten lax in VC because unlike LA they aren't pulling licenses, but I have no data to support this).
 
I remember this dance. Just like 14 days to slow the spread, then a month, then...well you know how it goes until Joe Biden's mask for 100 days.

The enforcement mechanism is the counties. Some counties may defy it. Will be curious to see if Orange, San Diego, San Bernardino go along with it, but that's the pressure point. Then the other pressure point is either corporations (who have a compliance rule that they need to cooperate with local regs...which is why for example the chains are enforcing the mask mandate in VC while some smaller businesses are saying F it) or licensing (I suspect things have gotten lax in VC because unlike LA they aren't pulling licenses, but I have no data to support this).

exactly, “it’s just a month”

so, we are forever being “prepared”
 
An article in National Review explaining Democratic thought is about as useful as NYT’s artcles explaining how Republicans think. In both cases, the author just doesn’t get it.

Take a look at Newsom’s mask rule. It lasts all of one month. It’s pretty clearly trying to limit delta transmission over the holidays, and that’s about it.

It also has no particular enforcement mechanism. He assumes that most of us will just put on our masks.

Now, will this work in your area? That’s a different question.
Just a month...during prime season for a lot of indoor businesses. Some businesses make or break is during this time period. Insanity.

Dad4 I'll buy you takeout next time your in San Diego if it lasts only a month.

Just to add, you can't use cases spiking as an excuse for extending the mask mandate. I fairly confident that cases will spike because of the time of the year, and masks will do nothing to stop it.
 
That one depends on the area. Around here, everyone just does it. Enforcement is the wrong word. In six months, I’ve only seen one person walk into a store without a mask. The clerk offered him a free mask, and the guy said thanks. That was it.
I think a better explanation is that despite not a farming/ranch area, people in your area are sheep. Blindly wearing masks everywhere, despite not being at risk.

Polling shows that Dems extremely overestimate the actual risk if the virus. I bet this belief is even higher in your area.
 
Just a month...during prime season for a lot of indoor businesses. Some businesses make or break is during this time period. Insanity.

Dad4 I'll buy you takeout next time your in San Diego if it lasts only a month.

Just to add, you can't use cases spiking as an excuse for extending the mask mandate. I fairly confident that cases will spike because of the time of the year, and masks will do nothing to stop it.
Why would a mask rule cut into business?

You just buy some disposables and keep them by the front desk.

Are people down there actually still abusing the wait staff whenever they ask you to mask up? I would have hoped we'd gotten past that kind of behavior by now.
 
Why would a mask rule cut into business?

You just buy some disposables and keep them by the front desk.

Are people down there actually still abusing the wait staff whenever they ask you to mask up? I would have hoped we'd gotten past that kind of behavior by now.
Because masks are bad for biz. People don't want to wear them and many avoid going to places where they are required.

Further...this mandate won't make a difference in terms of the spread. It is another useless gesture
 
Yes, the government has tried to a wits end to inform people of the precautions and risks. It should be mostly out of their hands now and left to individuals to decide what they think is best. Individuals from the donut shop to the mall to school boards, etc. If you are too stupid or arrogant to comply with the wishes of others you deserve to be outcasts. And no demanding others take the same risks with their health and the health of those around them is not how proper members of society conduct themselves. That is not freedom of choice that is just dumb.
Exactly. Socialist dumb.
 
Why would a mask rule cut into business?

You just buy some disposables and keep them by the front desk.

Are people down there actually still abusing the wait staff whenever they ask you to mask up? I would have hoped we'd gotten past that kind of behavior by now.
Adopting Socialism has always been a source of mass murder by cowards like you.
 
The other thing about these pointless rules.

When you listen to the pharma CEO s they talk about reduction if death. And that is true.

They don't talk much about elimination if the virus.

The reality is we are going to have to live with the virus.

Every couple of months doing a mask mandate or limiting X, isn't going to make a difference in terms of the spread.

Those actions will however hurt biz, hurt kids, etc etc.
 
Here is the other thing. CA does this because of the holidays, wishing it makes a difference. It won't.

Bar and restaurant traffic will be about the same. You know what people do during the holidays? Go to people's houses. The mask thing won't change that equation. More people will be visiting friends in the #1 transmission spot.. people's houses.

And you know what people aren't going to do? Wear a mask at their friends house. Or move activities outside.
 
Take a look at Newsom’s mask rule. It lasts all of one month. It’s pretty clearly trying to limit delta transmission over the holidays, and that’s about it.

It also has no particular enforcement mechanism. He assumes that most of us will just put on our masks
So this time stuff like this will make a difference?

Please.

After 2 yrs of watching stuff like this you should know it won't change the trajectory of the virus.
 
Lausd has officially postponed its mandate to next school year. Another mandate falls.
By the way. Shouldn't they be asked what changed ( besides the politics)?

If it was so important to mandate it, and now they backed off, they should be forced to articulate why. One assumes it was vital for safety as to their reason to mandate initially. So why the change?

If parents were not complying, that would still not change why they mandated initially. ..right?

Yes we know kids have zero risk. But despite that, these officials should be forced to explain the reasoning to mandate, and now to hold off.
 
But despite that, these officials should be forced to explain the reasoning to mandate......
Shouldn't be hard for educated folks at LAUSD to articulate why they ignored the entire history of respiratory diseases caused by the 55 million year old corona virus. Is it because it would trigger termination? It should. Cowards.
 
Why would a mask rule cut into business?

You just buy some disposables and keep them by the front desk.

Are people down there actually still abusing the wait staff whenever they ask you to mask up? I would have hoped we'd gotten past that kind of behavior by now.
At some point, your cowardly behavior must cease.
 
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