Vaccine

GoldenGate said:
I was pretty clear that it was the wrong decision. But it wasn't a decision "politicizing healthcare". The only "politicizing healthcare" here is being done by those who keep pointing to that poor decision as an excuse to completely ignore all of the things that mitigate spread and reduce deaths.
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Ex-fucking-actly! That is a pattern they adhere to on many subjects.
 
dad4 said:
At a minimum, the Levine appointment was a clear example of politicizing healthcare.

By the time of the appointment, it was clear that the decision to return patients to nursing homes resulted in added cases and deaths. If you were just looking for the most qualified person, there is no way you’d choose someone with that on their resume. You’d look to places like WA and CA that seemed on top of it.
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I do like how you assume that the federal government appointing a transgender person is politicizing healthcare. I'm sure it wouldn't be "political" of a president to appoint a bank CEO as secretary of treasury? Or an oil industry lobbyist as secretary of the interior. Or a rich business owner as secretary of labor, followed by an employment defense attorney who also happens to be the brother of your favorite supreme court justice? Or the wife of a senator whose help you need as secretary of transportation followed by a supporter of U.S. sponsored torture with no experience whatsoever (so qualified). Or a former surgeon as secretary of housing and urban development (hey, at least he was qualified at picking out really expensive office furniture on the taxpayers' dime)? Or a never employed really, really rich person as secretary of education? Or a complete moron as secretary of energy, who tries to hide his complete and utter stupidity and incompetence by wearing glasses? Definitely no politics there.
 
Brav520 said:
He lied , tried to cover it up, wrote a book about his success , and won an Emmy

people were talking that he should be the dem nominee for president , given how well he did on Covid

but yeah , it hasn’t been polticized
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I guess it's progress that you aren't claiming that Hillary's emails are killing everyone in AZ, TX and FL.
 
GoldenGate said:
What the fuck are you talking about? NY didn't appoint them. I take it you're just going to point to whatever the fuck thing as evidence of "politicizing healthcare" so that you can then ignore whatever you want from health experts, since something was politicized so therefore everything is?
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Levine required Pennsylvania nursing homes to accept covid positive patients who were discharged from hospital.

www.timesonline.com

Levine: Bringing nursing home COVID patients back from hospital was right move

State officials believe they did the right thing by requiring nursing homes across Pennsylvania to bring residents...
www.timesonline.com

The decision led to increased deaths at PA nursing homes. Later, Biden appointed them, ignoring the obvious lapse in judgement.

The simplest explanation for the appointment is identity politics. You’d really have to jump through some hoops to make a case that Levine was the best qualified candidate overall.
 
what-happened said:
You are beyond clueless. All of these words clearly prove that. You have a basic misunderstanding of disease protocols, you follow some silly political playbook, and you kneel at the pew of your ideology.

You are out of your mind If you think for one second that experts in the field (not ones why play one on TV) didn't recommend basic protocols for novel infections disease/outbreaks. Continue to froth at the mouth with meaningless words. You are good for entertainment purposes. Now please turn to page 8, paragraph 2, bullet #3 and type out your response. As it turns out, Cuomo is in fact a dirt bag. His aspirations were clearly political. He is a perverted, egotistical man

I know I'm not going to change your small, narrow mind. But it is amusing how easily disturbed and protective you become. Science and medicine were trumped by politics.
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Do you think he actually believes anyone reads his rants? He just bent due to the downfall of the Cuomo brothers. His old alias, EOTL, was the biggest Cuomo nuthugger.
 
GoldenGate said:
I do like how you assume that the federal government appointing a transgender person is politicizing healthcare.
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Can you defend the Levine appointment without referring to their gender status?

No one who oversaw a decision to return covid patients to nursing homes deserved a federal appointment to a health care role. Levine should have been ruled out for the same reason that Biden didn’t appoint the top health official from NY or NJ.

( The rest of your diatribe is irrelevant. I’m opposed to Trump, and therefore feel no obligation to defend his appointments. )
 
dad4 said:
At a minimum, the Levine appointment was a clear example of politicizing healthcare.

By the time of the appointment, it was clear that the decision to return patients to nursing homes resulted in added cases and deaths. If you were just looking for the most qualified person, there is no way you’d choose someone with that on their resume. You’d look to places like WA and CA that seemed on top of it.
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I know how much you hate Levine, so I figured you'd like this meme from the FB feed of a dead anti-vaxxer/masker. For context, I've also included a photo of his super witty "big balls" t-shirt along with his final texts before he got what he deserved. It turns out that he had no stones whatsoever. I wonder if he was a nursing home resident?

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GoldenGate said:
What the fuck are you talking about? NY didn't appoint them. I take it you're just going to point to whatever the fuck thing as evidence of "politicizing healthcare" so that you can then ignore whatever you want from health experts, since something was politicized so therefore everything is?
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politicizing public health not healthcare. Go git some learnings and lern the difference tween the 2. ...You can't even get your thoughts straight. Feel free to throw more reddit stuff as a response - super clever and demonstrates clear intellectual frailty. Nut huggin doesn't increase expertise.
 
Grace T. said:
Hellscapes are in the eye of the beholder. Twitter most assuredly is a hellscape, at least as far as social media sites go. This subforum of the soccer forum comes pretty close to one too (minus EOTL its more of a purgatory). Time to brush up on some Milton.



I like this. And you have the assurance from espola that since it's criticizing the post and not the speaker's character, it most assuredly is not an ad hominem.
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I see you still don't get it.
 
what-happened said:
politicizing public health not healthcare. Go git some learnings and lern the difference tween the 2. ...You can't even get your thoughts straight. Feel free to throw more reddit stuff as a response - super clever and demonstrates clear intellectual frailty. Nut huggin doesn't increase expertise.
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You seem to think that anything you don't like is "politicizing healthcare". You know what actually isn't healthcare, but is just politics? Banning hospitals from requiring that their staff get vaccinated. Banning schools from requiring face coverings. Banning schools from requiring that students have any vaccinations. Banning abortions. Telling constituents that horse paste is all you need. Pastors promoting anti-vax/mask bs and telling their sheep that god will save them.

I'm happy to show you more memes in the FB feeds of dead people, but they're just the same racist, misognynistic anti-max/vax stuff you get in yours every day.
 
N00B said:
Pretty good summary as to the reasoning behind the future ruling by the Supreme Court on a question revolving around states rights and a question of 15wks vs 20 wks on termination of pregnancies. Guess you agree given your comment above… now that wasn’t divisive at all, right?
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I already stated my position -- safe, legal, rare, and none of your business.
 
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