Vaccine

Given the pattern of those who got sick (it's in the source), it's "more likely" that those seated nearest the teacher were most at risk. If the pattern of those infected was evenly scattered over the room, your statement would make more sense.




A @NYT promoted @DukeU "study" claiming benefits from masks on children, didn't even have a control group.
 
A bit of a scandal building with the resignation of the two fda officials. They seem to have resigned at least in part over the White House/fauci/cdc pressuring the fda over some actions, particularly the booster approach. Details still murky and a lot of rumor and innuendo. But if even partially true….
 
So which truths do you accept?
Would not be summarized in a covid thread. I’ll just leave it that I’m a believer but it’s complicated and god isn’t some zeusian dude with a flowing white beard. It would require a diversion into cosmology and multi universe theory as well which is far more than these pages can hold. Want to discuss? Become a Mormon missionary.
 
A bit of a scandal building with the resignation of the two fda officials. They seem to have resigned at least in part over the White House/fauci/cdc pressuring the fda over some actions, particularly the booster approach. Details still murky and a lot of rumor and innuendo. But if even partially true….

I have seen news of some FDA resignations recently over the rapid approval of a controversial Alzheimer's treatment drug. Is that what you meant?
 
I was removed from a juror pool once when they asked if anyone had strong opinions about chiropractors.


How much is the fee? Is it covered by insurance?
 
Would not be summarized in a covid thread. I’ll just leave it that I’m a believer but it’s complicated and god isn’t some zeusian dude with a flowing white beard. It would require a diversion into cosmology and multi universe theory as well which is far more than these pages can hold. Want to discuss? Become a Mormon missionary.
Mormon missionary >> basement-dwelling troll - Your efforts to lift him higher are admirable ;).
 
Is your idea of ‘story time’ just like reading rainbow on tv?

Yeah, they look at the camera. In the classroom, they’re reading the words while looking at the book (even using pointer fingers to help the kids co-read along with them).
Yes, school teachers make eye contact. Not just during story time, but all day long. It really helps.

If this were not about covid politics, you would not have gotten this wrong. You've been in classes, and more recently you probably went to story time at the library or a sing-along with your toddler. Teachers making eye contact is not news to you. But something about the covid conversation made you forget it.

I think the whole discussion is turning us into politics robots instead of thinking people.
 
Harvard Epidemiologist Says the Case for COVID Vaccine Passports Was Just Demolished
New research found that natural immunity offers exponentially more protection than COVID-19 vaccines.




Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections

Background Reports of waning vaccine-induced immunity against COVID-19 have begun to surface. With that, the comparable long-term protection conferred by previous infection with SARS-CoV-2 remains unclear.

Methods We conducted a retrospective observational study comparing three groups: (1)SARS-CoV-2-naïve individuals who received a two-dose regimen of the BioNTech/Pfizer mRNA BNT162b2 vaccine, (2)previously infected individuals who have not been vaccinated, and (3)previously infected and single dose vaccinated individuals. Three multivariate logistic regression models were applied. In all models we evaluated four outcomes: SARS-CoV-2 infection, symptomatic disease, COVID-19-related hospitalization and death. The follow-up period of June 1 to August 14, 2021, when the Delta variant was dominant in Israel.

Results SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected.

Conclusions This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.
 
Bingo, you can't assume it was spread when she took off the mask for a few minutes, much more likely it was the hours of prolonged exposure.



That's why the messaging should be focused on the sick. Instead of "space out and wear a mask" for everyone. It should be heavy on "Don't assume it's allergies or a cold, get tested and stay home until you get a negative result. A mask will not protect others if you are sick."
That message (Don't assume it's allergies or a cold. Get tested and stay home.) is very helpful.
 
The irony of this statement is completely lost on you
No. I chose that wording for a reason.
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Include yourself with us. You gave a thumbs up to someone saying teachers don't make eye contact.

Think about that for a second. You gave a thumbs up to someone telling a teacher that teachers don't make eye contact.

That is not a strong position to support. The discussion is rotting your brain right along with mine.
 
Would not be summarized in a covid thread. I’ll just leave it that I’m a believer but it’s complicated and god isn’t some zeusian dude with a flowing white beard. It would require a diversion into cosmology and multi universe theory as well which is far more than these pages can hold. Want to discuss? Become a Mormon missionary.

So you are a Scientologist?
 
Yes, school teachers make eye contact. Not just during story time, but all day long. It really helps.

If this were not about covid politics, you would not have gotten this wrong.

So you’re sticking with the brief ‘maskless’ interaction which by itself wouldn’t even qualify as a close-contact by CDC definition as the causal element in this situation?

Seriously? Occam would like to remind you that entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity.
 
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