Vaccine

Grace T. said:
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I’m on the do not call list for Mormon missionaries. I broke a couple of them back in the day and they prefer it if they don’t talk to me. A few months ago two adventists approached me in the park where my son was practicing. Gave them a half hour. Broke one of them before she was shuttled away by the partner. Not exactly a hobby buts it’s something I sometimes get sucked into every now and then. It’s not that I have a problem with faith. I’m actually very faithful myself. I just believe it needs to be forged in truth and above all else without fear.
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Ha! I’m always willing to answer the door and converse for the fun of it.
 
Grace T. said:
Yes but most pre symptomatics like the teacher aren’t presymptomatic. It’s that humans have a tendency to not want to believe they are in fact sick and will defer to other explanations before putting up sick on the list.
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At least this teacher was waiting on test results, but you’re right about human nature for most.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
More than likely she was following the Science you Whirling Dervishes ignore.

George Mason University Professor Speaks Out After Challenging Anti-Science Vaccine Mandate

George Mason University tried to penalize Zywicki for possessing the 'wrong type' of COVID immunity, but he just wasn’t having it.


Zywicki Fought Back and Was Rewarded
George Mason University (GMU) tried to penalize Zywicki for possessing the “wrong type” of COVID immunity, but he wasn’t having it. As a law professor beginning his 24th year teaching at Virginia’s largest four-year public university, Zywicki enjoys well-documented, robust natural immunity from COVID because he already contracted and fully recovered from the virus last year.


“My immunologist says that my antibody level is comparable to somebody who’s been vaccinated,” Zywicki told The Federalist. “The science is quite clear that … natural immunity is at least as effective as the most effective vaccines, meaning 90-95 percent, which the Pfizer and Moderna claim they have, clearly more effective than a less effective vaccine like Johnson & Johson, which is only 66 percent. And it’s not even … a serious discussion whether it’s more protective than Sinovac and Sinopharm.”

Clinical studies from the Cleveland Clinic, Israel, and England support these assertions. Natural immunity is a powerful, long-lasting defense against COVID, and Zywicki said it “protects against a greater array of variants” than the vaccines on the market. The protection afforded by vaccines is reportedly waning, and breakthrough infections are spreading globally.

When GMU tried to coerce Zywicki into getting vaccinated anyway, he had his lawyers at the New Civil Liberties Alliance file suit against GMU on his behalf. Zywicki also slammed his employer’s broad vaccine mandate via a Wall Street Journal op-ed, in which he argued that “there’s no justification for a coercive violation of [his] bodily autonomy.”

Thanks to his willingness to stand up for his convictions, Zywicki himself won’t have to get vaccinated this fall, he won’t be subject to disciplinary action, and he’ll be able to hold office hours and attend in-person events. Zywicki must maintain six feet of distance from others and get tested for COVID on a weekly basis, however, meaning there are still strings attached to his “medical exemption.”
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Abuse of power has happened among men throughout recorded history and we haven't evolved in any significant way in that time. Lincoln's quote will always ring true.

Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.
 
N00B said:
So the unmasked teacher, while reading a book, directed air plumes of Covid to a radius of children simultaneously?

Ok, I can’t take that implication from your prior analysis of the effectseriously in this example.

Clearly, the duration indoors in general proximity had a greater statistical impact on the viral dispersion and infection rate.

BTW, where did all the funds go that didn’t upgrade the ventilation in that facility?
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Yes. The teacher, while reading a book at story time, made eye contact with every student.

That is how story time works. You speak towards each child in turn, so they know you care about them, and that the story is for them.

Unfortunately, in this case, eye contact also meant respiratory plume contact and covid exposure.

Probably not a ventilation problem. The schematic showed open windows on both sides of the class. Also, the back of the class had far fewer cases than the front. If it were ambient buildup, the front and back would have fared the same.
 
Grace T. said:
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I’m on the do not call list for Mormon missionaries. I broke a couple of them back in the day and they prefer it if they don’t talk to me. A few months ago two adventists approached me in the park where my son was practicing. Gave them a half hour. Broke one of them before she was shuttled away by the partner. Not exactly a hobby buts it’s something I sometimes get sucked into every now and then. It’s not that I have a problem with faith. I’m actually very faithful myself. I just believe it needs to be forged in truth and above all else without fear.
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By "broke" you mean they gave up on you? Or did you mean they abandoned their faith in the face of your overwhelming logic?
 
dad4 said:
Yes. The teacher, while reading a book at story time, made eye contact with every student.

That is how story time works. You speak towards each child in turn, so they know you care about them, and that the story is for them.

Unfortunately, in this case, eye contact also meant respiratory plume contact and covid exposure.

Probably not a ventilation problem. The schematic showed open windows on both sides of the class. Also, the back of the class had far fewer cases than the front. If it were ambient buildup, the front and back would have fared the same.
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Is your idea of ‘story time’ just like reading rainbow on tv?

Yeah, they look at the camera. In the classroom, they’re reading the words while looking at the book (even using pointer fingers to help the kids co-read along with them).
 
espola said:
By "broke" you mean they gave up on you? Or did you mean they abandoned their faith in the face of your overwhelming logic?
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No one abandons years of faith in one conversation. They merely take their first step on the journey by beginning to question it (which is exactly what they don’t want you to do). Sometimes the road leads you back to where you started but you are stronger for having questioned.
 
Grace T. said:
No one abandons years of faith in one conversation. They merely take their first step on the journey by beginning to question it (which is exactly what they don’t want you to do). Sometimes the road leads you back to where you started but you are stronger for having questioned.
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???
 
dad4 said:
Yes. The teacher, while reading a book at story time, made eye contact with every student.

That is how story time works. You speak towards each child in turn, so they know you care about them, and that the story is for them.

Unfortunately, in this case, eye contact also meant respiratory plume contact and covid exposure.

Probably not a ventilation problem. The schematic showed open windows on both sides of the class. Also, the back of the class had far fewer cases than the front. If it were ambient buildup, the front and back would have fared the same.
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The mental gymnast. Is plume your word of the week?
 
N00B said:
So the unmasked teacher, while reading a book, directed air plumes of Covid to a radius of children simultaneously?

Ok, I can’t take that implication from your prior analysis of the effectseriously in this example.

Clearly, the duration indoors in general proximity had a greater statistical impact on the viral dispersion and infection rate.

BTW, where did all the funds go that didn’t upgrade the ventilation in that facility?
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Bingo, you can't assume it was spread when she took off the mask for a few minutes, much more likely it was the hours of prolonged exposure.

Grace T. said:
Yes but most pre symptomatics like the teacher aren’t really presymptomatic. It’s that humans have a tendency to not want to believe they are in fact sick and will defer to other explanations before putting up sick on the list. It’s also that we tend to feel a lot crummier more often than we care to admit.
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That's why the messaging should be focused on the sick. Instead of "space out and wear a mask" for everyone. It should be heavy on "Don't assume it's allergies or a cold, get tested and stay home until you get a negative result. A mask will not protect others if you are sick."
 
Grace T. said:
I’m on the do not call list for Mormon missionaries. I broke a couple of them back in the day and they prefer it if they don’t talk to me.
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Don't be hard on them, they are just kids that have been indoctrinated their whole lives. Many are not on a mission by choice and are miserable despite outward appearances. Plus no religion can really claim the higher ground on truth.
 
watfly said:
Don't be hard on them, they are just kids that have been indoctrinated their whole lives. Many are not on a mission by choice and are miserable despite outward appearances. Plus no religion can really claim the higher ground on truth.
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I give them fair warning before hand. Most though are happy someone is listening to them. Your last sentence is pretty much what I’m aiming for.
 
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