Vaccine

I would have to look up the data. There's not 0 risk ((ya I know)) from these vaccines (or any vaccine) ((this is NOT a vaccine)), and the risks can be different depending on the particular vaccine.
Please see what you can find regarding the actual risk to death and injury regarding the Spike Protein made out of Wuhan. I think if you claim debunked news, then it's important to back up your claim. I showed stats. Where are your stats Rr? Please show the debunk results, the link and the true numbers, if you can find them...lol! Maybe deaths from adverse effects is somewhere between 1-300,000 deaths? Injuries is through the roof from what I hear but I guess it's lies too. Check this out Sherlock. The "experts" are blaming folks like me for catching the virus after they got two shots. That's just what your itching ears want to hear. Tickle lies is all you like so you can keep the good life. You people hate God fearing and free thinking types and those who dare ask a question about this and that and what's in IT. The tables are turning and you will be last if you keep up your attitude. FDA approval will hit us next week and soon the assholes who love control, power & money will make their last stand. It will fail but the damage will be done. I can clearly see the board on the forum. The die hard Elitist are most likely card caring Atheist and believe in being a Communist over being an American. Some sold their soul for 30 coins and a taste of power. No one wants to admit this except one of my pals from college debate class. Dude and I stayed friends. I asked him straight up. Kneel with Joe and China or allow T's group reinstated because? He said hands down Joe & China over T and his supporters being back in power. What about cheating in the election I asked? He said no cheating and t is the problem and his supporters. This guy wears a mask 24/7 and got his shots. Parents left him millions so he's set for life. He get's me 100% and told me it's best I move out of the state because.
 
The teenage witch star is blaming her kids for catching the virus and is mad they were not wearing a mask at school. She already had the jabs so she certainly can;t blame something else. Nope, it;s those damn kids fault. This is sad, to blame your own kids. Plus, I dont believe her. Thoughts Roadrunner?


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Please see what you can find regarding the actual risk to death and injury regarding the Spike Protein made out of Wuhan. I think if you claim debunked news, then it's important to back up your claim. I showed stats. Where are your stats Rr? Please show the debunk results, the link and the true numbers, if you can find them...lol! Maybe deaths from adverse effects is somewhere between 1-300,000 deaths? Injuries is through the roof from what I hear but I guess it's lies too. Check this out Sherlock. The "experts" are blaming folks like me for catching the virus after they got two shots. That's just what your itching ears want to hear. Tickle lies is all you like so you can keep the good life. You people hate God fearing and free thinking types and those who dare ask a question about this and that and what's in IT. The tables are turning and you will be last if you keep up your attitude. FDA approval will hit us next week and soon the assholes who love control, power & money will make their last stand. It will fail but the damage will be done. I can clearly see the board on the forum. The die hard Elitist are most likely card caring Atheist and believe in being a Communist over being an American. Some sold their soul for 30 coins and a taste of power. No one wants to admit this except one of my pals from college debate class. Dude and I stayed friends. I asked him straight up. Kneel with Joe and China or allow T's group reinstated because? He said hands down Joe & China over T and his supporters being back in power. What about cheating in the election I asked? He said no cheating and t is the problem and his supporters. This guy wears a mask 24/7 and got his shots. Parents left him millions so he's set for life. He get's me 100% and told me it's best I move out of the state because.

Well, I'm pretty sure that you could find the articles debunking this disinformation if you were motivated to do so. Clearly you know how to Google and have some time in your hands. If you were truly looking for real data and information, I would be happy to take the time to post it for you. But, it's a beautiful Saturday, and I am enjoying it with my family.
 
@Rr, my wife sent me scene shot and a pic. Here are her words. I will not sure pic of stuff all over her heart are but it's sad and true. Try and debunk this. Dare any of you. Double dog dare any of you.

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It was cut off at the bottom but she is asking everyone to slow down and research and ask questions.
 
Well, I'm pretty sure that you could find the articles debunking this disinformation if you were motivated to do so. Clearly you know how to Google and have some time in your hands. If you were truly looking for real data and information, I would be happy to take the time to post it for you. But, it's a beautiful Saturday, and I am enjoying it with my family.
Ask Kennedy and all the Marines how their doing. Enjoy your Saturday bro. Checkmate!!!
 
"People who don't want the vaccine aren't "refusing" it. You don't say a person is "refusing" to take anti-depressants. Or "refusing" to get married. You can decline without refusing. You decide what's best for you. Refuse is a manipulative term, loaded with unfair moral pressure." Ben from Irvine-

I agree Ben. Plus, they can only "encourage" folks who decline the jabs to reconsider rolling up their sleeve to take two for the team ((if they feel safe)) plus all the boosters THEY ((THE EXPERT DR. F)) say to take. I'm shocked that people do what he recommends. He's one dude with no clue. I ain't never going to take this fraudsters advice. Never never never. The cops down under are nasty cops btw. I do not see cops treating their neighbors in America like I see on TV down under and not named Fox or friend CNN. This is real news and it's starting to get HOT!!!
 
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Cult leader?

vaccine passport= baptism certificate
mask= hijab
priest=scientist
tenets=CDC guidelines
saints=Gates, Fauci
heretics=anti-vaxxers
holy forever communion= booster shots forever
 
Nuremberg Code #6

The degree of risk to be taken should never exceed that determined by the humanitarian importance of the problem to be solved by the experiment.
 
"Anecdotes tell us what the data can’t: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate. But exactly how often isn’t clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. And now, there’s growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought."
 
Hawaii has set all time case records for 3 days in a row. Despite high vaccination rate, mask mandate and indoor dining/bar restrictions.
 
No one is out to crack your balls.

Oh I know. My levels of existential angst are well within normal operating parameters. My comment was meant for....uh...someone else.

It's a choice of where one wants to be in their brain. Light or Darkness. It's all choice. I'm here to help, 100%. Do you know how many people in soccer despise me? Hate is good word too.

No hate from me. I'm glad you're here. I mostly read what people write, only rarely hit the clicks unless something sounds interesting. The giant thing you posted awhile ago, however, did make me do a WTF head swivel. What was that? Some sort of lost tribe of Israel thing? Anyway since you bring up brains, that's kind of my interest in these two threads to be completely upfront, although I think I pretty much got the contours now. How metaphorical computers have this tendency to turn complexity, uncertainty, probabilistic stuff into either this or that. Then it's just a hop skip and jump to light and darkness. That's all of us, me included. And lately seems like there's so much stuff floating around designed to help us get to precisely that place.

It was evil to the core where I come from.

IMO evil is abundant and comes in many forms. Of course it's different to experience it in a visceral way. I'm fortunate in that I only recall that once. But you know sometimes the shot comes in high and hard. You react, make your best dive like you've trained over and over but just can't push it wide. 9 times out of 10 you make that save. But its a goal against you and the game moves on. Bad luck. You dig the ball out of the back of the net and keep playing. No other choice really.
 
Oh I know. My levels of existential angst are well within normal operating parameters. My comment was meant for....uh...someone else.



No hate from me. I'm glad you're here. I mostly read what people write, only rarely hit the clicks unless something sounds interesting. The giant thing you posted awhile ago, however, did make me do a WTF head swivel. What was that? Some sort of lost tribe of Israel thing? Anyway since you bring up brains, that's kind of my interest in these two threads to be completely upfront, although I think I pretty much got the contours now. How metaphorical computers have this tendency to turn complexity, uncertainty, probabilistic stuff into either this or that. Then it's just a hop skip and jump to light and darkness. That's all of us, me included. And lately seems like there's so much stuff floating around designed to help us get to precisely that place.



IMO evil is abundant and comes in many forms. Of course it's different to experience it in a visceral way. I'm fortunate in that I only recall that once. But you know sometimes the shot comes in high and hard. You react, make your best dive like you've trained over and over but just can't push it wide. 9 times out of 10 you make that save. But its a goal against you and the game moves on. Bad luck. You dig the ball out of the back of the net and keep playing. No other choice really.
Cool stuff. You are very talented writer btw. It's getting heated with some people. Remind me of the WTF head swirl moment and lost tribe of Israel please. I dont know it all so if I said something that is off or just way out there, I'll be the first to say it was satire or or I was just playing around. I'm going to go stealth after tomorrow. I might have some final words to all of you. I need to see the board for at 7 days without commenting on every freaking post. Let others have some, moo moments. I need to also brush up on my talents and figure out a way to make a buck wearing a mask so I will be working. I tried cold calling over the phone but folks are not in the mood to spend money. Most are not sure they will be open next month. That is true story. I'm not going to make excuses anymore. I just need to go out and say hi and see what happens. I had to push the envelope with some old friends to see the board and they care for themselves first over my rights. It is what it is and I'm certainly not surprised by a few of them and their back stabling to reach the top. One of them hurt my feelings by just telling me to stop complaining all the time and get the vax or no vax, the choice is simple, one or the other but please stop complaining. I said he is flat wrong because if the one person chooses no jab at work, he get's fired where the other guy obeys like a good worker and now he can buy & sell and have fun and entertainment like lakers and concerts plus the bars for booz...lol but the other guy is fired, loses his house and then his wife leaves him because she is woke and he's an anti=vaxxer. Relationships are getting tested like no other time.
 
Here's the counter position to the booster. It's going to scare the shit out of dad 4 and the others on team panic. I posted the Gottleib position above. This is the contra. I don't know which is right, but note Campbell who did this review has been pro NPI pro vaccine.

The counter argument going around to boosters forever, at least for the non-elderly, non-immunocompromised, is that there has been quite a bit of data coming out that natural immunity is actually more robust than vaccine immunity just because it operates in a variety of different ways to stop infection, while the vaccines only operate on the spike protein. So, it is possible that for the non-elderly, non-immunocompromised, which will need boosters perhaps multiple boosters, is that while vaccine immunity is at its highest, the best thing we can do to end this is TO ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE EXPOSED AND/OR INFECTED with the virus. That has enormous implications including: 1) children should not be vaxxed...if the vax doesn't stop disease or even massively reduce hospitalizations, since they don't suffer from the severe form, it's probably better for them, particularly the under 12, to just get repeated exposures to the virus, 2) people while at a high level of immunity from the vaccine would need to risk natural exposure, 3) NPIS such as masks and dining/crowd restrictions are actually counter productive to ending the pandemic and is just prolonging the misery.

Like I said, Campbell is not an antilockdown nut and he cites the thinking of experts, particularly those that have the ear of the UK government. He even has his mask poster behind him. I don't know who is right....this position or the Gottlieb position. I do find it funny however that either choice represents a binary choice of either the CDC f'ed up with the vaccination protocol (if Gottlieb is right) or the CDC is screwing up now by recommending masks/limitations (if the experts Campbell cites are correct). Again, I'm not sure who is right at this particular point and am open minded either way. I do note if Gottlieb is right it means we are going to be dealing with this for at least 4 to 5 years. If Campbell is right, this is endemic and a cold by next year, assuming the experts don't f it up and waste this time.

But I know someone who won't be happy if Campbell is right (yeah it's several of you, let me apologize in advance but it's just too funny)....cue dad4 freakout in 5 4 3 2 1

 
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