Vaccine

[dad4]

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You keep pretending that you wanted schools open. You were very firm in your convictions that schools should not be open.

So you keep telling me. But you have it wrong.

Your main complaint was that I wanted to close bars, restaurants, and casinos, because of their higher transmission rates.

If you want to defend keeping bars open, go for it. But don't hide behind kids when most of your focus back then was on keeping the pubs open.

 

[N00B]

Agreed. So which “adults kept their things open while they closed everything for kids”?

I still have the same questions, but will apologize in advance for the tone upon rereading my own words. We probably only disagree 20% of the time on general themes or topics. This one just happens to be a hot button of mine.

 

[kickingandscreaming]

I think it might be 18 or older. My kids are 13 and 17 and I’ve had no problems getting their covid vaccination records immediately texted to me via this California website. https://myvaccinerecord.cdph.ca.gov/

My guess is that they misapplied the 12 years or older rule for the vaccination records.

Do Minors Have Medical Privacy Rights?

Yes. Once they turn 12, they have legal rights to health privacy.

www.scripps.org

 

[Hüsker Dü]

Could be a real Zinger you got there.

If you weren’t spouting racist rhetoric about disadvantaged groups being bad parents and poor advocates for their children.

Oh hey noob, quite the assumption you made there. Based on your predetermined idea about who does most of the essential work I take it.

 

[crush]

You keep pretending that you wanted schools open. You were very firm in your convictions that schools should not be open.

and dad wanted to make sure crush get's fired or locked out of making a buck in SoCal!

 

[crush]

Guess what % of MAGA's are unvaccinated and refused the Jab? How many got fired for saying, "no jab?" Over 75% of MAGA's never took one jab. The other 25% took one.

 

[Desert Hound]

So you keep telling me. But you have it wrong.

Your main complaint was that I wanted to close bars, restaurants, and casinos, because of their higher transmission rates.

If you want to defend keeping bars open, go for it. But don't hide behind kids when most of your focus back then was on keeping the pubs open.

You keep evading the fact that you wanted schools closed. You wanted pretty much everything closed.

You were aghast when some universities opened.

You were a big fan of closing schools.

Did takeout work for schools?

Math and Reading Scores Plummeted for Students During Pandemic

Nine-year-old students' reading and math scores have dropped dramatically over the last two years, according to a new report from the National Center for Education Statistics (NCES), a branch of the U.S. Department of Education.

freebeacon.com

 

[dad4]

You keep evading the fact that you wanted schools closed. You wanted pretty much everything closed.

You were aghast when some universities opened.

You were a big fan of closing schools.

Did takeout work for schools?

Math and Reading Scores Plummeted for Students During Pandemic

Nine-year-old students' reading and math scores have dropped dramatically over the last two years, according to a new report from the National Center for Education Statistics (NCES), a branch of the U.S. Department of Education.

freebeacon.com

You are putting words in my mouth because the old thread was deleted and no one can look at the actual record.

If we are talking August 2020, at the time schools would have been reopening for the 2020-2021 school year,

I was a big fan of closing bars, restaurants, and casinos. I also felt that universal masking was a good idea, air travel would spread covid, and that private dinner parties were a problem.

You were primarily concerned with the economic impact of business closures on adults. Arizona was in the middle of a case and death spike, which you claimed was just an artifact of increased testing.

Schools were not the main topic of conversation, for anyone.

Now, two years later, you want to reinvent the whole discussion as being schools based. It wasn’t. The discussion was largely over whether covid was a significant problem, whether businesses should be closed, and whether we should have to wear masks.

 

[Happened again]

Maybe all those parents shouldn’t have been baking sourdough and binge watching Netflix?

You are quite the tone deaf troll:

"Math scores for Black and Hispanic children were lower than those of White children, the survey found, with White students declining 5 points, Black students declining by 13 points and Hispanic students declining 8 points."

I doubt the parents of most of these kids were baking sourdough bread and watching netflix. They were likely trying to figure out how to keep their job and balancing care for their kids who weren't allowed to go to school. Having access to childcare trumped access to internet..imagine you being so insulated this is how you think. Out of all of the crap that you spew, this may be your most dullest.

 

[crush]

You are quite the tone deaf troll:

"Math scores for Black and Hispanic children were lower than those of White children, the survey found, with White students declining 5 points, Black students declining by 13 points and Hispanic students declining 8 points."

I doubt the parents of most of these kids were baking sourdough bread and watching netflix. They were likely trying to figure out how to keep their job and balancing care for their kids who weren't allowed to go to school. Having access to childcare trumped access to internet..imagine you being so insulated this is how you think. Out of all of the crap that you spew, this may be your most dullest.

100%. My buddy owns a plumbing company and his wife "was" a nurse before the pandemic. Two things happened; 1) His plumbing biz grew like never before during Rona and he needed help in the back office. 2) His wife quit her job to run back office, but really she was forced to quit because they love their kids and no way they would have left their13 year old dd, 9 year old ds and little 0ne year old dd at home all alone when schools were shut down because dads like Dad were scared. She quit to save her kids and his plumbing biz doubled in revenue. Super stoked for him and his bro
P.S. No way they have any time for baking bread. They are open 24/7 and she takes most of the calls. They love tacos, beans, burritos and carne asada

 

[watfly]

You are quite the tone deaf troll:

"Math scores for Black and Hispanic children were lower than those of White children, the survey found, with White students declining 5 points, Black students declining by 13 points and Hispanic students declining 8 points."

I doubt the parents of most of these kids were baking sourdough bread and watching netflix. They were likely trying to figure out how to keep their job and balancing care for their kids who weren't allowed to go to school. Having access to childcare trumped access to internet..imagine you being so insulated this is how you think. Out of all of the crap that you spew, this may be your most dullest.

How pathetic it is that you have to point out the obvious? But again it just shows the arrogance and how out of touch the left is. How many left leaning posters on here have said, "oh my kids did fine during the pandemic". They're so narrow minded to think that their club soccer kids represent the majority.

 

[espola]

How many left leaning posters on here have said, "oh my kids did fine during the pandemic".

Who said that?

 

[Pollo Elastico]

Now, two years later, you want to reinvent the whole discussion as being schools based. It wasn’t. The discussion was largely over whether covid was a significant problem, whether businesses should be closed, and whether we should have to wear masks.

Again...not reinventing.

You did want biz closed. Just take out food was your solution.

At the same time you didn't want schools opened either.

And long ago the evidence was they were not at risk. And increasingly we are seeing that not sending kids to school had a terrible affect on learning outcomes.

Don't try to pretend you were not also an advocate of school closures. Your bait and switch today I guess is we also on this forum discussed biz closure. And I guess since that was a large topic...you try to pretend school closure was not part of it?

Lame.

 

[dad4]

Again...not reinventing.

You did want biz closed. Just take out food was your solution.

At the same time you didn't want schools opened either.

And long ago the evidence was they were not at risk. And increasingly we are seeing that not sending kids to school had a terrible affect on learning outcomes.

Don't try to pretend you were not also an advocate of school closures. Your bait and switch today I guess is we also on this forum discussed biz closure. And I guess since that was a large topic...you try to pretend school closure was not part of it?

Lame.

There is no point in discussing it without a record of what was said.

You can invent anything you want and claim it was my main point. And you are.

 

[espola]

There is no point in discussing it without a record of what was said.

You can invent anything you want and claim it was my main point. And you are.

...and the Rubber Chicken was not even around then to witness it. Am I right?

 

[watfly]

There is no point in discussing it without a record of what was said.

You can invent anything you want and claim it was my main point. And you are.

You're so full of crap. Back in summer 2020, you know a few months after closures started, I posted the following articles and you called them BS and argued vehemently for school closures. If I recall, your main line of reasoning was the kids will kill grandma.

American Academy of Pediatrics president says schools should reopen

Dr. Sally Goza believes schools should reopen, with a host of safety guidelines, because they provide things "you just can't get with online learning."

www.today.com

https://www.nationalacademies.org/news/2020/07/schools-should-prioritize-reopening-in-fall-2020-especially-for-grades-k-5-while-weighing-risks-and-benefits

Stop trying to hide behind the fact that those threads no longer exist.

 

[dad4]

You're so full of crap. Back in summer 2020, you know a few months after closures started, I posted the following articles and you called them BS and argued vehemently for school closures. If I recall, your main line of reasoning was the kids will kill grandma.

American Academy of Pediatrics president says schools should reopen

Dr. Sally Goza believes schools should reopen, with a host of safety guidelines, because they provide things "you just can't get with online learning."

www.today.com

https://www.nationalacademies.org/news/2020/07/schools-should-prioritize-reopening-in-fall-2020-especially-for-grades-k-5-while-weighing-risks-and-benefits

Stop trying to hide behind the fact that those threads no longer exist.

If you look back, a lot of grandmas and grandpas did die. About a million of them.

The people saying “you’re killing grandma” were correct.

We can talk about whether we should have opened schools and closed other things. But opening schools with no vaccine and no other precautions would have accelerated the fall 2020 wave.

The people arguing for open schools and closed bars have a very good point. The people arguing for open everything with no vaccine are living in fantasy land. If we had done that, we would have had far more deaths.

 

[Pollo Elastico]

I posted the following articles and you called them BS and argued vehemently for school closures. If I recall, your main line of reasoning was the kids will kill grandma.

He pretends we don't remember what he advocated.

 

[Happened again]

If you look back, a lot of grandmas and grandpas did die. About a million of them.

The people saying “you’re killing grandma” were correct.

We can talk about whether we should have opened schools and closed other things. But opening schools with no vaccine and no other precautions would have accelerated the fall 2020 wave.

The people arguing for open schools and closed bars have a very good point. The people arguing for open everything with no vaccine are living in fantasy land. If we had done that, we would have had far more deaths.

kids killed grandmas and grandpas? or are you saying that people aged 65 and older are more susceptible to a novel virus...that precautions should have been taken to stratify public health strategy to meet the needs of what we knew. It's as if government can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

 

[dad4]

He pretends we don't remember what he advocated.

Watfly is correct that he advocated early for opening up for kids.

You are full of shit.