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University of Texas Medical Branch Concedes It May Have Broken Law In Contract With Wuhan Lab.....Yikes!!!
 
I am frequently amused by posters who claim "easy to find" without leaving one of the "easy to find" links.

And even if I did find it on my own, it does not answer the more fundamental question of where Grace found it.
The laziest are typically amused when someone else doesn’t do their work for them…

I did check.

I saw no mention of a ban on covid vaccines.

I did see articles about a change to recommendations with respect to Moderna. Basically, use Pfizer for young people.

But no talk of Denmark banning youth covid vaccines in general.

If you found such a link from a reputable source, post it. If it happened, it would have been all over the mainstream European press.
funny since the context was regarding the Alex Berenson v Twitter lawsuit.

But as per usual, you are arguing your own points whether relevant or not.
 
Gottcha. Harumphing. Like the sewage sea foam wraiths. But there's an important point in all of it about where we need to be monitoring. Not so much for natural Cvirus genetic diversity anymore. But for point sources of re-emergence.
Ignoring the origin story, it sounds like the virus at this stage transfers more easily from human to animal. It that incorrect, unknown, or just a result of the fact that the virus is so pervasive in humans?
 
Gottcha. Harumphing. Like the sewage sea foam wraiths. But there's an important point in all of it about where we need to be monitoring. Not so much for natural Cvirus genetic diversity anymore. But for point sources of re-emergence.

BTW I did google up the "close the beaches thing". It's a LOL for me in that the UCSD/Scripps person in question here is Kim Prather. Turns out this is somebody my son was recommended to try and work with if he ended up choosing UCSD. For what's its worth, here's her "side" of the whole debacle, at least as told through an outlet called "Beachgrit".

 
Ignoring the origin story, it sounds like the virus at this stage transfers more easily from human to animal. It that incorrect, unknown, or just a result of the fact that the virus is so pervasive in humans?

IMO unknown would be the safe answer, although the pervasiveness can't but help be a driver. A big unknown will be if it's an R11 virus for us, how infectious does it remain after adapting to new zoonotic hosts. And let's hope jumping back is harder. I was thinking about this because I got some kind of animal rescue email about a scam where long tour service members dropped their dogs off at this "boarding facility". Which then kept them in malnourished conditions in the vicinity of dead livestock. I would image rodents and other wild critters were coming and going. These situations would not be as ideal incubators as the caves in China, but if Cov2 retains high infectivity in its new resevoris these types of situations could bear monitoring.
 
You seem to be operating under the assumption that I didn't find relevant information.

And -- as I already stated -- that doesn't answer the question.
I’m not your dosi doh partner…..find someone else who wants to play your my damn games cause it doesn’t matter where she found it, does it….NO.


It’s out there and public record
 
I’m not your dosi doh partner…..find someone else who wants to play your my damn games cause it doesn’t matter where she found it, does it….NO.


It’s out there and public record

And what does the "public record" show? For a time, Berenson was Tucker Carlson's favorite science fiction writer, even giving him regular segments on his show. However, when it became obvious that Berenson's "don't worry about covid" fables were obviously dangerously wrong, he was dropped. So he continued his self-promoting campaign on twitter.

None of that answers the question of where Grace got her hand-wringing version.
 
And what does the "public record" show? For a time, Berenson was Tucker Carlson's favorite science fiction writer, even giving him regular segments on his show. However, when it became obvious that Berenson's "don't worry about covid" fables were obviously dangerously wrong, he was dropped. So he continued his self-promoting campaign on twitter.

None of that answers the question of where Grace got her hand-wringing version.
How was he dangerous?
 
BTW I did google up the "close the beaches thing". It's a LOL for me in that the UCSD/Scripps person in question here is Kim Prather. Turns out this is somebody my son was recommended to try and work with if he ended up choosing UCSD. For what's its worth, here's her "side" of the whole debacle, at least as told through an outlet called "Beachgrit".

Best of luck to your son on his college choices.
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As far as your article goes, yeah "journalists" have a tendency to embellish, but in this case these were direct quotes from her. Word to paper doesn't always translate as you think and it sounds like she realized how irrational she sounded when she read the articles. Nevertheless, she was dead wrong, and in fact her opinion was dangerous.

We all make mistakes and its how a mistake is handled is the true test of character. She never issued an apology or a retraction of her opinion. Saying she was taken out of context is neither. My biggest issue with the scientific community is the lack of accountability. When a credential scientist makes a public opinion there is an implied credibility and in some cases, like Dad4, a reverence for that opinion. As best as I can tell, there are no repercussions for giving a false opinion, other than scorn from other scientists if you disagree with the consensus opinion. Most credentialed professions have a Code of Ethics with discipline for violating those ethics. To restore credibility in the scientific community it would be prudent to develop some sort of accountability system, particularly for any opinions or studies that are issued publicly.
 
Best of luck to your son on his college choices.
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As far as your article goes, yeah "journalists" have a tendency to embellish, but in this case these were direct quotes from her. Word to paper doesn't always translate as you think and it sounds like she realized how irrational she sounded when she read the articles. Nevertheless, she was dead wrong, and in fact her opinion was dangerous.

We all make mistakes and its how a mistake is handled is the true test of character. She never issued an apology or a retraction of her opinion. Saying she was taken out of context is neither. My biggest issue with the scientific community is the lack of accountability. When a credential scientist makes a public opinion there is an implied credibility and in some cases, like Dad4, a reverence for that opinion. As best as I can tell, there are no repercussions for giving a false opinion, other than scorn from other scientists if you disagree with the consensus opinion. Most credentialed professions have a Code of Ethics with discipline for violating those ethics. To restore credibility in the scientific community it would be prudent to develop some sort of accountability system, particularly for any opinions or studies that are issued publicly.
Did you read what she said in the article?

"In another part of the conversation, we discussed all of the pollution run-off that gets into the ocean especially after the rains we have had. It is well documented that our oceans become polluted at times–many here in SD are quite polluted now. There is also sewage in the ocean. The point I was trying to make was I would not go in the ocean (here in SD) where it is polluted right now nor would I go to the crowded beaches. As I suspected would happen that quote about not going in the ocean has now been used for many headlines around the world–turns out it was excellent “clickbait”. "
 
If you come up with the new name for Monkeypox, you will get a free fries with your next burger. Thoughts from the forum for new name?

Suckerpox
Poxoflies
Manpox
Justpox



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Going back to your old theory of " find someone who sounds qualified but agrees with me anyway."

You do realize that medical school doesn't actually include statistics training, right? If a policy caused a 10% increase or decrease in transmission rates, there is nothing in med school that would help them find it.
 
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