Unless I missed the sarcasm in your reply… my intent was to laugh at the data set they used to arrive at their headline.
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Unless I missed the sarcasm in your reply… my intent was to laugh at the data set they used to arrive at their headline.
Desert Hound
DA
And in New Zealand COVID is now tied for the leading cause of death in the country.
www.theguardian.com
Covid becomes equal leading cause of death in New Zealand for first time
Analysis shows almost 15% of deaths in mid-July were due to Covid, with that figure likely to be an undercount
www.theguardian.com
So GraceT was right about this cult-like obedience to scientific dogma.
You seem to be thinking of a car as something which you drive 400 miles per day, towing a boat. If that is your average day, don’t get an electric.
For me, an average day is driving 50 miles to work, school, and soccer. For that, an electric works fine. I charge it at night. It takes about 2 seconds to plug it in. I can’t remember the last time I bothered with a public charging station, and it requires almost no maintenance. Most convenient car I’ve ever owned.
I won’t argue against grid upgrades. It is part of the cost of any switch to wind/solar. You can get by with a smaller grid upgrade if you include more nuclear in the mix, but you still have to do it.
What dogma? Making a battery is an industrial process. It consumes energy and causes CO2 emissions. You don’t need a Ted talk to explain the concept. If it came out of a factory, there was some CO2 released somewhere along the way.
Now, if you want to go further than that and say how much CO2, then you need data, links, and the rest of it. For that, a Ted talk is not a very good medium. Video is slow, unidirectional, includes no links to sources, and allows the speaker to completely ignore any point he finds uncomfortable. Useless for a real discussion.
I some ways the most green vehicle that exists is the one you already own, whether that's electric or fuel. The sunk carbon cost has already been incurred. It's really new vehicles that have the greatest carbon cost. Of course, the benefits of the old car are finite because it won't last forever.
Those that are indoctrinated don't see the dogma.
Ongoing cost is larger than you’d think. A 20 mpg car will emit 1 pound of CO2 every mile. (1 gallon gas = 20 pounds CO2). So an extra 50,000 miles means an extra 25 tons of CO2.
That’s more than the lifetime emissions of a new electric car.
EvilGoalie 21
GOLD
In the click media (eg https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/08/11/cdc-coronavirus-recommendations/) you'll see some of the changes I suggested were coming to CDC guidance. For those interested, below is a link to a rationale statement for those changes that is pretty interesting. Notice, for example, how "community" and "individual" parse out in the document. Basically, like I was saying CDC is at this point going "we'll monitor community, you guys do what you want". It's remarkable to me how epidemiologists and immunologists have come to very different views of where we are with this virus right now.
www.cdc.gov
Summary of Guidance for Minimizing the Impact of COVID-19...
This report describes guidance for minimizing the impact of COVID-19 on individuals, communities, and health care systems in the United States.
www.cdc.gov
That all sounds like positive and reasonable steps to me. It does seem like the CDC is catching up with what the public has been doing for months.In the click media (eg https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/08/11/cdc-coronavirus-recommendations/) you'll see some of the changes I suggested were coming to CDC guidance. For those interested, below is a link to a rationale statement for those changes that is pretty interesting. Notice, for example, how "community" and "individual" parse out in the document. Basically, like I was saying CDC is at this point going "we'll monitor community, you guys do what you want". It's remarkable to me how epidemiologists and immunologists have come to very different views of where we are with this virus right now.
Summary of Guidance for Minimizing the Impact of COVID-19...
This report describes guidance for minimizing the impact of COVID-19 on individuals, communities, and health care systems in the United States.
Hüsker Dü
DA
The term bureaucracy does not elicit quick moving nor agile.
EvilGoalie 21
GOLD
Sure, that's part of it. In my recent travel across the country the only place that insisted on mask and vaccine status was in Navaho country. And for good reason. But for real fry bread and stew totally worth it. Part of it is also the new inputs from the poly sci and information warfare people they are looping into the modeling. From the epidemiological standpoint my read is they take the fairly high but steady case load to mean "this is what endemic with an R11 respiratory virus looks like". So, assuming another VOC doesn't pop out (which it could, who knows) it makes some sense to let it ride at this point. I would image there is also kind of a hope that, for the more guidance compliant urban/higher density areas, the omicron bivalent vaccines have a big effect on steady state case load.
Hüsker Dü
DA
Navajo, just saying.
Sometimes glacial, but the CDC was quick to promote restrictions with very limited data (I get erring on the side of caution up to a point) and slow to recommend a lifting of restrictions despite overwhelming evidence. Bureaucracy can move much quicker when there is a political will to do so.
Hüsker Dü
DA
His disrespect for the chosen one sure left you people butt-hurt and spiteful.
this comment is quite telling