Vaccine

espola said:
I'm assuming you don't want me to prove that there are liars with agendas.

Take a college-level course in statistics, probability, or scientific data management and get back to me.
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No dip shit…you say they are misreading stats, prove it!

Or keep deflecting because you can’t prove it, because it is just your opinion.

pS - I have a minor in both Econ and statistics so there is that!
 
Kicker4Life said:
No dip shit…you say they are misreading stats, prove it!

Or keep deflecting because you can’t prove it, because it is just your opinion.

pS - I have a minor in both Econ and statistics so there is that!
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I thought we weren't going to pursue the liars with agendas angle.
 
Kicker4Life said:
No dip shit…you say they are misreading stats, prove it!

Or keep deflecting because you can’t prove it, because it is just your opinion.

pS - I have a minor in both Econ and statistics so there is that!
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If you have a stats minor, then why such trouble handling the probability distribution in vaccine efficacy?

I get the argument that certain things ought not be mandated. That’s just a moral question where we disagree.

I don’t get the “reduction != prevention” schtick. Any stats minor ought to have the math chops to handle repeated probabilistic events. You were tossing up nonsense like “some vaccinated people still got covid, therefore it isn’t a vaccine”.
 
dad4 said:
If you have a stats minor, then why such trouble handling the probability distribution in vaccine efficacy?

I get the argument that certain things ought not be mandated. That’s just a moral question where we disagree.

I don’t get the “reduction != prevention” schtick. Any stats minor ought to have the math chops to handle repeated probabilistic events. You were tossing up nonsense like “some vaccinated people still got covid, therefore it isn’t a vaccine”.
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Schtick? So by definition PREVENTION and REDUCTION are the same thing? Shall we refer to Webster on this? Maybe a wager that they are not bey definition the same? You can Venmo me the cash.

I repeat for the umpteenth time….this is nothing more than a Flu Shot that should have never been mandated in the manner it was. Military personnel, First Responders and tens of thousands of others lost their jobs over it. People were ostracized and publicly ridiculed over it. All for something that turned out didn’t do what those dictating to the world said it would do, “the virus stops with you”.
 
Kicker4Life said:
Schtick? So by definition PREVENTION and REDUCTION are the same thing? Shall we refer to Webster on this? Maybe a wager that they are not bey definition the same? You can Venmo me the cash.

I repeat for the umpteenth time….this is nothing more than a Flu Shot that should have never been mandated in the manner it was. Military personnel, First Responders and tens of thousands of others lost their jobs over it. People were ostracized and publicly ridiculed over it. All for something that turned out didn’t do what those dictating to the world said it would do, “the virus stops with you”.
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Why Webster’s? We aren’t American Studies majors who hide in a closet every time numbers come up. If you’ve got the stat’s minor, use it.

You have a chain of repeated probability events. You have the ability to change the average return by some amount. Does this, or does this not, change your total return? By how much?

It’s essentially the same question as what happens to a casino if you improve the odds at the roulette table by x%And the correct answer is NOT that the casino’s profits change by x%.
 
dad4 said:
Why Webster’s? We aren’t American Studies majors who hide in a closet every time numbers come up. If you’ve got the stat’s minor, use it.

You have a chain of repeated probability events. You have the ability to change the average return by some amount. Does this, or does this not, change your total return? By how much?

It’s essentially the same question as what happens to a casino if you improve the odds at the roulette table by x%And the correct answer is NOT that the casino’s profits change by x%.
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I don’t need a statistical analysis to argue my point that Prevention and Reduction are not the same. They may be used somewhat interchangeably in the scientific field but only in certain terms of how much prevention creates reduction. Once again, not the same.

Enough is enough. Let Magoo fight his own battles.

He likes to make comments refuting other people’s statements without the ability to back up what is actually only his opinion.

Have a nice day
 
dad4 said:
If you have a stats minor, then why such trouble handling the probability distribution in vaccine efficacy?

I get the argument that certain things ought not be mandated. That’s just a moral question where we disagree.

I don’t get the “reduction != prevention” schtick. Any stats minor ought to have the math chops to handle repeated probabilistic events. You were tossing up nonsense like “some vaccinated people still got covid, therefore it isn’t a vaccine”.
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It looks to me as if he is rationalizing his fear of needles into an anti-vax position based on a statistical quirk. I doubt that he dug up that little fragment all by himself, but he hasn't been forthcoming as to its source.
 
dad4 said:
If you have a stats minor, then why such trouble handling the probability distribution in vaccine efficacy?

I get the argument that certain things ought not be mandated. That’s just a moral question where we disagree.

I don’t get the “reduction != prevention” schtick. Any stats minor ought to have the math chops to handle repeated probabilistic events. You were tossing up nonsense like “some vaccinated people still got covid, therefore it isn’t a vaccine”.
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Yikes, a moral question? With the data available it's a moral question? "probability distribution in vaccine efficacy"?? That went out the door once the vaccines really starting sucking. Where would you start with it? against which variant? It's not about the math silly, it's about medicine..and this medicine sucks.

"some vaccinated people still got covid, therefore it isn’t a vaccine" Change this to most then spitball some stats.
 
espola said:
It looks to me as if he is rationalizing his fear of needles into an anti-vax position based on a statistical quirk. I doubt that he dug up that little fragment all by himself, but he hasn't been forthcoming as to its source.
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What's the quirk? 6 in 10 dead adults, as reported by the CDC were vaxed and boosted? Needles are scary, especially in this context.
 
espola said:
You're reading the stats inside out. Are you doing that on your own, or are you the victim of a liar with an agenda?
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Complete gibberish from you. Liars and agendas are very common, as you seem to know..especially common in the bobble head medical community - that last few years has seen that play out. How many bobbleheads are still on TV? Not many, their schtick is up.
 
dad4 said:
Why Webster’s? We aren’t American Studies majors who hide in a closet every time numbers come up. If you’ve got the stat’s minor, use it.

You have a chain of repeated probability events. You have the ability to change the average return by some amount. Does this, or does this not, change your total return? By how much?

It’s essentially the same question as what happens to a casino if you improve the odds at the roulette table by x%And the correct answer is NOT that the casino’s profits change by x%.
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Ha...I see that you've picked up the flag you firmly planted on the top of the vax/mask hill and took it home. It will be fascinating, from a morbid medical research perspective how this all plays out over the next 10-20 years....But you will be ok, your chops will help you in your interpretation of the facts.
 
Kicker4Life said:
No dip shit…you say they are misreading stats, prove it!

Or keep deflecting because you can’t prove it, because it is just your opinion.

pS - I have a minor in both Econ and statistics so there is that!
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Given a population A with a proportion p of a certain characteristic, what are the expected results when choosing a sample B from A that the sample will have proportion q of that same characteristic? How is the result affected when p is close to 1?
 
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