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SILVER ELITE
what are you even saying? what does it mean to you...that's the better question.
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kickingandscreaming
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Consistency like that can only come from an expert politician.
kickingandscreaming
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If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck ...
Hüsker Dü
DA
Is the origin of the virus that important and why? Seems simple enough to me.
This sounds a bit like a Hilary "what difference does it make?". In terms of the pandemic itself, its relevant (importance in the eye of the beholder) to future possible pandemics of this nature or virus itself. Its very important, though, as to our relationship with China if it came out of the lab. Due we pursue damages and/or sanctions against China, do we stop funding of all Chinese research, etc.
Hüsker Dü
DA
What if they just don’t know for sure?
Yes, they are experts at lying to your freaking face on live TV and then laugh at you in your pain, just like the pyschos on here do. These men are ruthless and have no conscious. Their conscious is seared with a hot Iron. No empathy. No heart, just animals. I dealt with a Doc and a few rich fathers who would lie to me and dd face and then lie to get out of the first lies. More lies after that and then project their BS and power unto my family and start crazy lies about my kid to others in the industry. Real losers!!! karma will take them out bruh. They think it's actually funny that people are suffering. These monsters will have hell to pay for their lies, cheating and stealing our life the last 3 years. Trust me K & S. I'm so sad brother. Seriously, I have over 11 friends I know over the last 12 months that have passed away from one illness to another. Never in my 55 years have I known so many who have died in 1 year. I dedicate this song to my best pal Pierre who was in my wedding. He was diehard Trojan fan. #66 will be missed but never forgotten.
Well like I indicated before, I think that's where we will end up, and I wouldn't recommend being heavy handed with China without some solid evidence.
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SILVER ELITE
well,,,simple enough for you makes sense. Imagine you knew something and hoped to hide it and then it came out. Aren't you always crying about saving lives? The origin of the virus isn't as important as who knew what and when? remember those silly words in the not so distant past...who knew what when?
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SILVER ELITE
Hüsker Dü
DA
“crying about saving lives”? Is that somehow a bad thing?
Why is the origin so important? It seems maybe you are looking for some kind of validation for someone or need to have something to blame?
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SILVER ELITE
one wonders why I even type words for you to read. validation? blame? how much do you charge for evals?
Interesting....makes the case Trump was sandbagged by his failure and the failure of his advisors to read the fine print. Trump repeatedly said he wasn't issuing a lockdown order but the very small print seems to be phrased like an order (at least one the state CDCs would run with). Trump was played, was too stupid to realize it, and then what's worse is he doubled down on it (tying Atlas' hands) because he couldn't admit in public (or perhaps even to himself) that he had been played. Also, if accurate, makes hay of the assertion that Fauci didn't recommend the lockdowns...he most certainly knew what was in the fine print even if he didn't draft it.
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The Day Anthony Fauci Wrecked American Freedom ⋆ Brownstone Institute
Fauci demonstrated at that press conference special knowledge of fine print that not even the president had seen. He was itching to read it.
brownstone.org
California Governor Declares State of Emergency - Breaking911
(Office of the Governor of California) SACRAMENTO – As part of the state’s ongoing response to the monkeypox outbreak, Governor Gavin Newsom today declared a State of Emergency to bolster the state’s vaccination efforts. The proclamation supports the work underway by the California Department of...
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“California is working urgently across all levels of government to slow the spread of monkeypox, leveraging our robust testing, contact tracing and community partnerships strengthened during the pandemic to ensure that those most at risk are our focus for vaccines, treatment and outreach,” said Governor Newsom. “We’ll continue to work with the federal government to secure more vaccines, raise awareness about reducing risk, and stand with the LGBTQ community fighting stigmatization.”
Who is going to take the Monkey Jab? Be honest with the group you guys.
Yes it's important.
Read up ya wanker...
The Origin of COVID-19 and Why It Matters
The COVID-19 pandemic is among the deadliest infectious diseases to have emerged in recent history. As with all past pandemics, the specific mechanism of its emergence in humans remains unknown. Nevertheless, a large body of virologic, epidemiologic, veterinary, and ecologic data establishes that the new virus, SARS-CoV-2, evolved directly or indirectly from a β-coronavirus in the sarbecovirus (SARS-like virus) group that naturally infect bats and pangolins in Asia and Southeast Asia. Scientists have warned for decades that such sarbecoviruses are poised to emerge again and again, identified risk factors, and argued for enhanced pandemic prevention and control efforts. Unfortunately, few such preventive actions were taken resulting in the latest coronavirus emergence detected in late 2019 which quickly spread pandemically. The risk of similar coronavirus outbreaks in the future remains high. In addition to controlling the COVID-19 pandemic, we must undertake vigorous scientific, public health, and societal actions, including significantly increased funding for basic and applied research addressing disease emergence, to prevent this tragic history from repeating itself.
In 2007, scientists studying coronaviruses warned: “The presence of a large reservoir of SARS-CoV–like viruses in horseshoe bats… is a time bomb. The possibility of the re-emergence of SARS and other novel viruses… should not be ignored.”1
Few paid attention following the disappearance of SARS after the initial outbreak in 2002. Now, 18 years later, COVID-19 has emerged as the deadliest respiratory disease pandemic since 1918, when the “Spanish” influenza pandemic killed an estimated 50 million people.2 We need to understand what happened so that we can prevent it from happening again, and be better prepared to contain similar pandemics at their outsets.
The agent of COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2, was named after the genetically related SARS-CoV (more recently distinguished by some as SARS-CoV-1), which caused a deadly near-pandemic in 2002–2003.3 Before 2019, neither SARS-CoV-2 nor its genetic sequences had ever been identified in viruses of humans or animals.
Even so, scientific research conducted over the last two decades provides clues about how and why the COVID-19 pandemic appeared. We must understand these critically important scientific findings, described in the following text, so that we can better address significant existential risks we will continue to face for the foreseeable future.
Viruses are compact nucleic acid packages of either DNA or (in the case of coronaviruses) RNA associated with proteins, and in some cases with lipids. Viruses are not living organisms and can only reproduce inside living cells susceptible to viral entry and with the capacity to replicate viral nucleic acids and translate nucleic acid signals into amino acids to build viral proteins. Viruses are therefore nonliving self-contained genetic programs capable of redirecting a cell’s machinery to produce more of themselves.
It follows that when a virus enters a human cell for the first time, it has very recently been transmitted from cells of some other host, that is, from another animal or, for example, an insect vector. Emergence of a pathogen between a vertebrate or an insect has been referred to as host-switching, sometimes described as a spillover event. Most of the human viral and nonviral infectious diseases that have existed for centuries—measles, influenza, cholera, smallpox (eradicated in 1980), falciparum malaria,4 dengue, HIV, and many others—originated by animal-to-human host-switching.5 The complex genetic events that underlie host-switching differ greatly from pathogen to pathogen, but general mechanisms have been recognized for many.6–9
Host-switching determinants prominently include social, environmental, and biological factors providing the opportunity for host–species interaction; shared host cell receptors; genetic distance between transmitting and receiving hosts; and characteristics and complexity of the viral quasi-species or viral swarm. (RNA viruses in particular are not transmitted to multiple cells as identical virions, but as collections of thousands of different genetically related virions. The ever-changing complexity of the viral swarm varies among species, genetically distinct but related individuals of the same species, and in single hosts over time.)
Studying animal viruses that have previously spilled over into humans provides clues about host-switching determinants. A well-understood example is influenza virus emergence into humans and other mammals.2 Human pandemic and seasonal influenza viruses arise from enzootic viruses of wild waterfowl and shore birds. From within this natural reservoir, the 1918 pandemic “founder” virus somehow host-switched into humans. We know this from genetic studies comparing avian viruses, the 1918 virus, and its descendants, which have caused three subsequent pandemics, as well as annual seasonal influenza in each of the 102 years since 1918. Similarly, other avian influenza viruses have host-switched into horses, dogs, pigs, seals, and other vertebrates, with as yet unknown pandemic potential.2,10,11 Although some molecular host-switching events remain unobserved, phylogenetic analyses of influenza viruses allow us to readily characterize evolution and host-switching as it occurs in nature.2
Until recently, relatively little was known about coronaviruses, and research interest in these common cold viruses was minimal. Eighteen years ago, a previously unknown β-coronavirus named SARS-CoV suddenly emerged. Following its initial appearance in China it spread to 29 other countries, causing a near-pandemic and killing 813 of the 8,809 people with confirmed infection before being controlled by aggressive public health measures. It has not been seen since. In 2012, however, another previously unknown β-coronavirus named Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV), and closely related to SARS-CoV, emerged to cause high case-fatality human infections. Fortunately, this virus does not efficiently transmit between humans, and cases have been largely limited to the Middle East where its intermediary host, the dromedary camel, is present in relatively high numbers. In 2016, yet another novel bat-origin coronavirus, an α-coronavirus, emerged in China to cause a novel epizootic disease in pigs, termed swine acute diarrhea syndrome coronavirus (SADS-CoV). And most recently, at least as early as late November 2019, SARS-CoV-2 was recognized and became the third fatal bat virus–associated human disease emergence and the fourth bat virus–associated mammalian emergence in 18 years. ...
... Understanding how COVID-19 emerged is of great importance. We now know that the viruses causing SARS, MERS, and COVID-19 are all members of enormous groups of bat coronaviruses distributed globally, and that many of these viruses are functionally preadapted to human emergence. This preadaptation can be thought of as “accidental” because it must have occurred in nature in the absence of human infection and does not rule out further human adaptation to enable pandemicity. Molecular mechanisms of preadaptation are not fully known, but are undoubtedly related to functional similarities between ACE2 receptors on the cells of numerous mammals (bats, humans, minks, cats, and other domestic and wild animals).33,34
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The Origin of COVID-19 and Why It Matters - PMC
The COVID-19 pandemic is among the deadliest infectious diseases to have emerged in recent history. As with all past pandemics, the specific mechanism of its emergence in humans remains unknown. Nevertheless, a large body of virologic, ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Interesting....makes the case Trump was sandbagged by his failure and the failure of his advisors to read the fine print. Trump repeatedly said he wasn't issuing a lockdown order but the very small print seems to be phrased like an order (at least one the state CDCs would run with). Trump was played, was too stupid to realize it, and then what's worse is he doubled down on it (tying Atlas' hands) because he couldn't admit in public (or perhaps even to himself) that he had been played. Also, if accurate, makes hay of the assertion that Fauci didn't recommend the lockdowns...he most certainly knew what was in the fine print even if he didn't draft it.
The Day Anthony Fauci Wrecked American Freedom ⋆ Brownstone Institute
Fauci demonstrated at that press conference special knowledge of fine print that not even the president had seen. He was itching to read it.
"The mission of the Brownstone Institute – which is, in many ways, the spiritual child of the Great Barrington Declaration "
About Brownstone Institute ⋆ Brownstone Institute
About Brownstone Institute: celebrating freedom as the path to progress, trustworthy public health, vibrant culture, and economic prosperity
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I would think you of all people would appreciate the significance of this. In recent weeks as Biden’s numbers have fallen to record lows and some polls show trump leading in a head to head contest the idea that trump might be the inevitable r nominee has been circulating. Particularly since the anti trump wings looks not just to be de santis but a few others including pence which will divided the anti trump vote. The fact that the antilockdowners are circling around the idea that trump blew Covid represents a significant new weakness emerging (which I think you would appreciate). It’s a weakness which some anti lockdowners are beginning to suggest is disqualifying (yeah yeah yeah I know you think Jan 6 is disqualifying but fly out country disagrees…this is the first chink in the armor and whether it is enough ^\_(;?)_/^). One thing ultimately leading to trumps rise was the notion that the establishment rs weren’t brawlers and let the left get away with stuff, particularly after Romney and smears like the binders of women or the dog thing. If trump can be painted as not being able to take on the deep state (and someone like desantis did) it maybe just maybe enough fingers crossed if we all get lucky."The mission of the Brownstone Institute – which is, in many ways, the spiritual child of the Great Barrington Declaration "
About Brownstone Institute ⋆ Brownstone Institute
About Brownstone Institute: celebrating freedom as the path to progress, trustworthy public health, vibrant culture, and economic prosperity
ps remember the early days when you said Biden was doing such a bang up job and he was popular….good times good times
That's mostly just the expected non-responsive babble.
The only good thing I got from Biden was that he got rid of t. "...the early days when you said Biden was doing a bang-up job..." exists only in your imagination.
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Still trolling I see even when we are on the same side. It’s always trolling above all else with you ain’t it?
ps if joe has even lost you well then whooosh!
You seem to have a unique definition of "trolling".