Vaccine

A reasoned piece on the Monkeypox vaccine and so far the failures of public health to properly manage this. The disease hasn't killed anyone outside of Africa yet because it has largely been contained to younger men, but if it breaks into the child population or pregnant women it could be serious. If we have to dip into the old smallpox vaccines, that's a problem because if you didn't like the side effects from the COVID vaccine, you ain't seen nothing yet. It poses an interesting question: we were willing to kick kids out of school for a year and in some locations are requiring even the autistic/ADHD/deaf ones that have problems masking to make a sacrifice for a disease which had very little impact on them, but we can't ask gay men to stop with the anonymous sex orgies until at least that community can be vaxxed with the newer vax?

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Monkeypox: What You Actually Need to Know

A primer by Donald G. McNeil Jr.
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dad4 said:
I’m not a fan of his DeSantis’ encouragement of mid-pandemic tourism or refusal to allow businesses to require vaccination
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That is because you prefer lockdowns. You were very concerned at the time.

And yet FL did fine.

You also didn't like him keeping schools open.

And yet that turned out fine.

As a country we would be better off today had we done what Florida did. Keep biz and schools open.
 
Desert Hound said:
That is because you prefer lockdowns. You were very concerned at the time.

And yet FL did fine.

You also didn't like him keeping schools open.

And yet that turned out fine.

As a country we would be better off today had we done what Florida did. Keep biz and schools open.
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Suppose the whole country had kept high risk businesses open in the summer of 2020. Where would AZ have gotten the travel nurses they needed to handle their surge?

What actually happened was you imported nurses from lockdown states. If there were no lockdown states, where would you have found the nurses you needed?
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Yes…yes they did
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Yet still trump is outpolling de santis on a 1 to 1 in the most recent poll in michigan

and this is despite the revelation that he essentially got played on Covid because he was too stupid to see the trap birx Set for him. That alone should be disqualifying to his supporters

but it isn’t. He’s still filling rallies in middle America and the cult of personality is still going strong. Saw it myself on my recent trip to flyover land.

until the governors race is over de santis hands are tied. But he seems to have made headway in their mutual home state of Florida so maybe it can be reversed. He’ll have to get out there among the regular folks and show he’s a regular guy (like when the South Dakota governor went to sturgis on a horse carrying the flag). He’ll have to attack trump for Covid and the economic disaster that followed. He’ll have to attack trump for getting played on the ground on the election and his competence on fighting the so called deep state without seemingly endorsing Jan 6. Even then it’s a tough hill to climb.

the dem job seems easier even though it’s a circular firing squad. They just throw Biden under the bus. Unlike trump no one loves him…no one will miss him.
 
Grace T. said:
If the waste water numbers are to believed its actually a huge wave just slightly less than the one we had this winter. It's just not producing hospitalizations on par with prior waves.
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I believe this. Has anyone ever said, "The poop don't lie."?

If a person only has cold-like symptoms, what % of the population will pay for their own test? What is the benefit of knowing and/or admitting you caught COVID?
 
Grace T. said:
Yet still trump is outpolling de santis on a 1 to 1 in the most recent poll in michigan

and this is despite the revelation that he essentially got played on Covid because he was too stupid to see the trap birx Set for him. That alone should be disqualifying to his supporters

but it isn’t. He’s still filling rallies in middle America and the cult of personality is still going strong. Saw it myself on my recent trip to flyover land.

until the governors race is over de santis hands are tied. But he seems to have made headway in their mutual home state of Florida so maybe it can be reversed. He’ll have to get out there among the regular folks and show he’s a regular guy (like when the South Dakota governor went to sturgis on a horse carrying the flag). He’ll have to attack trump for Covid and the economic disaster that followed. He’ll have to attack trump for getting played on the ground on the election and his competence on fighting the so called deep state without seemingly endorsing Jan 6. Even then it’s a tough hill to climb.

the dem job seems easier even though it’s a circular firing squad. They just throw Biden under the bus. Unlike trump no one loves him…no one will miss him.
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I suspect it has more to do the massive amounts of money invested in TRUMP and MAGA flags.
 
NorCalDad said:
I suspect it has more to do the massive amounts of money invested in TRUMP and MAGA flags.
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Also pride or self-image. Unlike here, where an embarrassed poster can just disappear and come back hiding under a new persona, actual people who have taken strong political stands with their friends and family usually don't just announce "You know, I was really wrong all those years when I called you all commies."
 
espola said:
Also pride or self-image. Unlike here, where an embarrassed poster can just disappear and come back hiding under a new persona, actual people who have taken strong political stands with their friends and family usually don't just announce "You know, I was really wrong all those years when I called you all commies."
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Cognitive Dissonance is a thing and it manifests itself in many ways also seen on this forum.
 
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Grace T. said:
Yet still trump is outpolling de santis on a 1 to 1 in the most recent poll in michigan

and this is despite the revelation that he essentially got played on Covid because he was too stupid to see the trap birx Set for him. That alone should be disqualifying to his supporters

but it isn’t. He’s still filling rallies in middle America and the cult of personality is still going strong. Saw it myself on my recent trip to flyover land.
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<sigh> I just can't imagine the level of hysteria that would take over about 1/3 the country if Trump got elected again. It's would be insufferable to hear and live through.
 
dad4 said:
Suppose the whole country had kept high risk businesses open in the summer of 2020. Where would AZ have gotten the travel nurses they needed to handle their surge?

What actually happened was you imported nurses from lockdown states. If there were no lockdown states, where would you have found the nurses you needed?
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You’d feel a lot different if your income was impacted. Yet you can’t see or relate to the impact of the extended lockdowns because your life was fairly normal working from home.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
<sigh> I just can't imagine the level of hysteria that would take over about 1/3 the country if Trump got elected again. It's would be insufferable to hear and live through.
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If only 1/3 would still be willing to vote for trump how could he be elected? . . . oh wait, the groundwork is still underway for that to happen. Democracy crumbles, eroding now from all sides in a symbiotic response.
 
Kicker 2.0 said:
You’d feel a lot different if your income was impacted. Yet you can’t see or relate to the impact of the extended lockdowns because your life was fairly normal working from home.
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We would all feel different if the national response was to err on the side of commerce and the worst case scenario came much closer to being realized. Anyone can Monday morning quarterback.
 
dad4 said:
You do seem to want to count only one side of the ledger.

If you want to talk about the job losses and educational gaps, you should also discuss the deaths, hospitalizations, and medical bills from covid.
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because most people are afraid to have a real conversation about it. What was the approx age of most people who died? What was their long term outlook. How many years of life did we impact with education gap. Uncomfortable conversation for most.

Defintely two sides of the ledger and should be honestly discussed, with much emotion I'm sure. The gap in education is going to be felt for years to come, especially within specific communities...likely be a generational impact to some families.
 
dad4 said:
You do seem to want to count only one side of the ledger.

If you want to talk about the job losses and educational gaps, you should also discuss the deaths, hospitalizations, and medical bills from covid.
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One you could protect yourself from and another was forced upon you……
 
dad4 said:
You do seem to want to count only one side of the ledger.

If you want to talk about the job losses and educational gaps, you should also discuss the deaths, hospitalizations, and medical bills from covid.
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The non-Covid death side of the ledger has been given short shrift from the beginning. A holistic consideration/discussion of all possible ills vs. possible benefits of mandates would have been great to have from the beginning.
 
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