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So you still like him, check.
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No and never have. Relevance?
kickingandscreaming
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Symptom 157 of TDS. If someone refuses to place all of our country’s problems on Trump, you believe that person likes Trump.
So you are still a mindless tool, check.
Hüsker Dü
DA
You can’t even see it. Every time you say “but!” It’s your way of staying in line.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Do you mean I can't see what you are imagining? Praise God for that. Where do I say "but"? Get back on script and read those cue cards/talking points. You do about as well as Biden when you depend on your own wits.
It’s the tendency to change the topic to Biden after expressing something negative about Trump. For example:
It makes it look like you see some sort of equivalence between being senile and attempting a coup.
That mostly has to do with the fact that Biden happens to be our current president. The best thing that could happen to our country is if both Biden and Trump went away. (maybe niave that there will be someone capable to replace them)
It doesnt make it look there is some sort of equivalence, its you and Husker trying to mischaracterize what we are saying in an attempt to make your arguments look credible or put others in a box. Lazy reasoning and intellectually dishonest to claim anti-Biden = pro-Trump.
kickingandscreaming
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I suppose it shouldn't be a surprise that those with the same myopic approach to COVID policy also have a myopic approach to politics. Trump zero solves all. Any who suggests that we have problems beyond Trump must be a Trump supporter. Give them credit for consistency.
Hüsker Dü
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Not the point or attempted correlation. My point was when you always need to add the “but, look at Joe!” clause in your “I don’t like trump” kinda says you do. The Whatabouts did the same concerning the IRA early 70’s Ireland.
The equivalence is inherent in your phrasing. “The best thing that could happen to our country is if both Biden and Trump went away.”
Why use a phrase like “Biden and Trump” unless you want to draw some parallel? Drawing parallels is the primary purpose of conjunctions. If you don’t mean to draw a parallel, then don’t put the two alongside each other.
Then you go on to accuse others of lazy reasoning and intellectual dishonesty.
Again your twisting other peoples words to suit your argument. The "im rubber and your glue" is a nice retort though.
And the obvious parallel between Biden and Trump is neither deserve to be President albeit for different reasons. Just FYI Joes biggest problem is not senility its his policies, or lack thereof. His senility is mostly just bad optics.
I welcome the day when we get candidates that arent the lesser of two evils.
Hüsker Dü
DA
We will need to abolish the two party system if holding our collective noses while casting our ballots is in our future. The ever intensifying quest for brand loyalty has eroded civil discourse. One side is presented as wishing for a country resembling The Handmaid’s Tale the other a constant state of The Purge.
Operative word is "presented". We have far more in common but were defined by the extremes and/or we vilify each other based upon on differences. Of course, that comes with freedom of speech which is also what makes our country great. Maybe more focus on responsibilties than rights.
Happy 4th y'all!
t is never going to leave your head or anyone else's head for that matter. TDS is real and you got it bro. I didn't think you did but you got it 100%. He's in everyone's head and I just laugh now.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Are you using "equivalence" to mean inconvenient truths? Below is the statement you questioned. Based on current polls, over half of America agrees with me.
However, simply "not Trump" didn't get us to a good point given the current adults in the White House. All our problems didn't go away and we have brand new ones.
It certainly has more support than a statement you let slide without comment that happens to be the #1 symptom of TDS.
The equivalence I was making was that Husker repeats talking points, rarely shows the capability of critical thinking, and spouts mindless shit when he goes off script. That mirrors Biden. It was obvious well before he was elected. So, if what you say is true, why did I vote for Biden if I see the two as equivalent? It doesn't add up.
Just curious, how closely have you been following the January 6 hearings?
I think the issue with that statement is it's like saying a murderer and a thief both deserve to be in prison without any provided context. I think many of us don't think Biden and Trump are remotely comparable and we need to come to terms with this as a country so we can get more aligned and fight the same fight. Until there is this acknowledgment, it's hard to have a sane conversation. I say this just as another lense. Keep in mind @watfly I don't see you as one of the crazy ones on this message board -- I think you're a reasonable human.
Personally I think the GOP should elevate Kinzinger.
Yeah a thief gets 6 months and a murderer gets 60 years, but either youre qualified to be president or your not. Its completely irrelevant to me to what degree youre unqualified. If you want to assert that Trump is more unqualified then Biden so be it. I could argue that Trumps policies produced better results than Bidens but that doesnt make him qualified for office. You could argue that Bidens rhetoric is less dangerous than Trumps but that doesnt make Joe more qualified.
We all need to stop settling for the least worst candidate. Newsom vs DiSantis would only be marginally better than Trump v Biden.
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We could argue one inherited a booming economy and the other a smoldering pile of ash.