Vaccine

watfly said:
I'm not sure the best word for this. "Karma" maybe.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Fauci, 81, has COVID

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases who President Joe Biden tapped as the pandemic tsar, has come down with COVID.
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It highlights again that the vax does nothing in terms of reducing the spread...which is/was a major reason offered up why people with no risk had to have the vax.
 
watfly said:
. Potentially awful for those kids who can no longer afford college because their 529 is being decimated.
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Good news is paying down that student loan debt with dollars that are worse less than when borrowed… bad news is the interest rates aren’t likely fixed.
 
dad4 said:
Yeah, one eighty year old vaccinated man caught covid, therefore the vaccine must have no impact.

That's the kind of rock solid logic I've come to expect from this thread.
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That's the rock solid response I've come to expect from you!! I never saw in the previous response where he mentioned the vaccine had "no impact," but leave it to you to manipulate what he is trying to say.

Pretty sure he said, the "vax does nothing in terms of spread"...wow, how did you pull out "has no impact??" You are as good as Psaki, they need to put you in there instead of Karine, she struggles, but you seem to get the idea of totally spinning something to deflect from the original intent of the message....good try though
 
dad4 said:
Yeah, one eighty year old vaccinated man caught covid, therefore the vaccine must have no impact.

That's the kind of rock solid logic I've come to expect from this thread.
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Per usual you miss the point. I am not saying they don't prevent more serious issues for those that catch covid.

I was pointing out the vax doesn't prevent the spread of the virus...which was used as a justification by many to mandate otherwise healthy individuals who have no real risk to covid to take an experimental vax.
 
soccersc said:
That's the rock solid response I've come to expect from you!! I never saw in the previous response where he mentioned the vaccine had "no impact," but leave it to you to manipulate what he is trying to say.

Pretty sure he said, the "vax does nothing in terms of spread"...wow, how did you pull out "has no impact??" You are as good as Psaki, they need to put you in there instead of Karine, she struggles, but you seem to get the idea of totally spinning something to deflect from the original intent of the message....good try though
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I'm happy to let you defend the logic of the original post.

One eighty year old vaccinated man received a covid infection.

The post you are defending claims that this demonstrates something about the ability of vaccinated people to transmit covid to others.

(Specifically, it "does nothing in terms of spread".)

How does that logic work? One 80 year old man received covid, therefore vaccinated people must be equally good at transmitting covid??? Your example is on one side of transmission, but your claim is on the other.
 
Desert Hound said:
Per usual you miss the point. I am not saying they don't prevent more serious issues for those that catch covid.

I was pointing out the vax doesn't prevent the spread of the virus...which was used as a justification by many to mandate otherwise healthy individuals who have no real risk to covid to take an experimental vax.
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You were saying the vax has no impact at all on transmission. That would mean zero impact on incoming infection, and zero impact on outgoing infection.

So, how does that work? Walk me through the logical path from "one elderly man caught a mild case of covid" to "the vaccine does nothing in terms of spread.".

Don't forget to explain how one incoming transmission proves anything at all about outgoing transmission.
 
dad4 said:
You were saying the vax has no impact at all on transmission. That would mean zero impact on incoming infection, and zero impact on outgoing infection.

So, how does that work? Walk me through the logical path from "one elderly man caught a mild case of covid" to "the vaccine does nothing in terms of spread.".

Don't forget to explain how one incoming transmission proves anything at all about outgoing transmission.
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explain how vaccines prevent transmission.
 
dad4 said:
I'm happy to let you defend the logic of the original post.

One eighty year old vaccinated man received a covid infection.

The post you are defending claims that this demonstrates something about the ability of vaccinated people to transmit covid to others.

(Specifically, it "does nothing in terms of spread".)

How does that logic work? One 80 year old man received covid, therefore vaccinated people must be equally good at transmitting covid??? Your example is on one side of transmission, but your claim is on the other.
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okay, I’ll walk you through it but you are pretty bright so I think you’re being lazy…Fauci himself said with vaccination the country would reach herd immunity when we get to 75-85%vaccination. Then our mighty leader, Biden, jumped in and told the country that this was an epidemic of the unvaccinated.

So the previous post, explained pretty clearly, that the original intent of the vaccination was to stop the spread and bring herd immunity. Now jump to June 2022, and as you can see by the graph below, that vaccinated and boosted actually are being infected more than just vaccinated and unvaccinated. So the logic would seem that since vaccinated and boosted are the ones that are getting Covid more than both the other groups they have a higher probability of transmitting. Is that hard to follow?Seems pretty logical, but that wasn’t even the original argument…the point was Fauci and the White House pushed the vaxx so the spread would stop…they were wrong, once again pretty simple. Funny how certain facts seem to slip the mind of those that defended those that were so wrong at the beginning of this whole thing.

how does it go…fool me once, shame on you…fool me twice, shame on me…fool me 5 times,
but you can keep acting like you don’t get it

www.npr.org

Fauci Predicts U.S. Could See Signs Of Herd Immunity By Late March Or Early April

Dr. Fauci said once the vaccine becomes widely available, if by "April, May, June, July, we get as many people vaccinated as possible, we could really turn this thing around" by the end of 2021.
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soccersc said:
okay, I’ll walk you through it but you are pretty bright so I think you’re being lazy…Fauci himself said with vaccination the country would reach herd immunity when we get to 75-85%vaccination.

"Dr. Fauci and his colleagues write that achieving classical herd immunity against SARS-CoV-2 is unlikely, due to a combination of factors that include features of the virus as well as current societal dynamics."

www.nih.gov

NIH experts discuss controlling COVID-19 in commentary on herd immunity

Achieving herd immunity thresholds have been less successful with respiratory viruses which continually mutate.
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exactly, that’s for helping us prove the point! No such thing as her immunity with the vaxx, which is exactly what they said the vaxx was for in the first place…funny how Fauci always changes his tune, mask no mask…herd immunity, no herd immunity…seems like a very trustworthy guy
 
soccersc said:
exactly, that’s for helping us prove the point! No such thing as her immunity with the vaxx, which is exactly what they said the vaxx was for in the first place…funny how Fauci always changes his tune, mask no mask…herd immunity, no herd immunity…seems like a very trustworthy guy
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"Herd immunity" is the most abused and misunderstood term in this whole adventure.
 
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