Vaccine

Desert Hound said:
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Does Vaccination Make You MORE Likely to Catch Covid?

Walgreen's must run an enormous number of covid tests, nationwide. So their data should be a pretty good sample. Check out these numbers from Walgreen's web site. This chart shows the positivity rate by vaccination status. It indicates that unvaccinated people currently have a lower rate of...
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I can say this from my experience as a unvaxxed couple. I have been sick twice since Jan 20, 2020. 7 days max altogether. I shared how I was up in Seattle and came back with IT. Then I got Omicron. That is it and I wish I was I never sick but those are the facts. My wife was sick once but for about two weeks. Omicron Venom knocked her out. Our Immune system did it's job and we did our job by eating super healthy and making sure what we put in our body and now we both feel amazing, knock on wood. I did not always eat good in the past and I had my fair share of drinking with the Spirits in the past and I loved fast food. It was fast and quick because I was trying to make $200,000+ every year to keep the creditors off my ass. I was born in a system that gave everyone a Financial Credit Score plus a number that belongs to you. I just got email from one of these reputation management companies letting me know they can help with my Social Credit Score. I kid you not. I'm already getting booted out from buying and selling in the State and now they want to score me on my reputation online. Yikes!!! This is quite the place. Jab or get fired. Jab or no college soccer and free education. Life is not fair and I will look to figure out how my wife and I will help her parents, who both have Alzheimer's and not getting any better. Love you man :)
 
Desert Hound said:
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Does Vaccination Make You MORE Likely to Catch Covid?

Walgreen's must run an enormous number of covid tests, nationwide. So their data should be a pretty good sample. Check out these numbers from Walgreen's web site. This chart shows the positivity rate by vaccination status. It indicates that unvaccinated people currently have a lower rate of...
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Most sources I have seen still show unvaccinated testing positive at several times the rate of vaccinated. This is measured as positive tests per hundred thousand people in each category.

Walgreens was measuring positive tests per test taken. Many employers require unvaccinated employees to get tested, but have no such requirements for vaccinated employees.

The difference in your fractions isn't the numerator. It's the denominator. Unvaccinated people are more likely to be required to go get a test.

Did you really think no one measures whether the vaccine reduces odds of infection? You have thousands of well respected scientists looking at this exact question. Yet you choose to pay attention to some random internet troll who got confused by the Walgreens website.
 
what-happened said:
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Indeed. It's kind of the definition of science, at least since the time of Galileo and Newton who conducted experiments to test theories and thus expanded humanity's knowledge about things (and even the ways to describe that knowledge, such as Newton's invention of calculus).
 
espola said:
Indeed. It's kind of the definition of science, at least since the time of Galileo and Newton who conducted experiments to test theories and thus expanded humanity's knowledge about things (and even the ways to describe that knowledge, such as Newton's invention of calculus).
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perfect - but the article referred was by a doctor and a sitting senator. Hardly a trustworthy combination.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
That has been our experience as well. It will be interesting to see how things change over the next few years. My impression is that the level of disconnect between many school districts' policies and a significant portion of their population is becoming larger. I'd guess that schools will lose and/or have already lost an inordinate proportion of high performers as they are creating an incentive to go the private and/or home school route. Homeschoolers in CA are allowed to take college courses for dual credit. No need for AP classes if you take the actual college course. I wouldn't be surprised to see an effort by those in public education to limit the availability to take college courses while still in HS. Personally, I find it unfortunate. It's interesting in the efforts to be more inclusive many school districts appear to be pushing some out the door for greener pastures.
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We're certainly entering an era of "bridge too far" with education and its great that parents (from both sides of the aisle) are standing up to the BS. My only hope is that it will continue. The parents at my daughter's school stood up to the administration and we were able to restore the honors programs that the principal tried to eliminate. Sometimes all it takes is calling out their BS. As a matter of note, the principal was forced to resign due to pressure from both parents and teachers. Not necessarily for this incident, but as one teacher stated for "catastrophic incompetence". It also resulted in the Superintendent retiring early as the Principal was her hand picked choice (happened to be a friend of hers).
 
dad4 said:
Most sources I have seen still show unvaccinated testing positive at several times the rate of vaccinated. This is measured as positive tests per hundred thousand people in each category.

Walgreens was measuring positive tests per test taken. Many employers require unvaccinated employees to get tested, but have no such requirements for vaccinated employees.

The difference in your fractions isn't the numerator. It's the denominator. Unvaccinated people are more likely to be required to go get a test.

Did you really think no one measures whether the vaccine reduces odds of infection? You have thousands of well respected scientists looking at this exact question. Yet you choose to pay attention to some random internet troll who got confused by the Walgreens website.
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While you may be right, at this point the case number is not remotely reliable. There have been far more cases in the last few months than has been reported. Most people have been testing positive with home kits. My suspicion is that most people reporting positive tests are those that have had more significant sickness and have to be treated at some medical facility. These people likely fall into two groups, the unvaccinated and those with co-conditions (even if vaccinated). Actually there is a 3rd group, those that get medical treatment for something else but as protocol get tested for Covid. How that impacts the reported numbers in terms of vaccinated or unvaccinated is really impossible for anyone to accurately gauge.

Omicron has spread throughout my community without regard to vaccination status.

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Most of the World’s Vaccines Likely Won’t Prevent Infection From Omicron (Published 2021)

They do seem to offer significant protection against severe illness, but the consequences of rapidly spreading infection worry many public health experts.
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watfly said:
We're certainly entering an era of "bridge too far" with education and its great that parents (from both sides of the aisle) are standing up to the BS. My only hope is that it will continue. The parents at my daughter's school stood up to the administration and we were able to restore the honors programs that the principal tried to eliminate. Sometimes all it takes is calling out their BS. As a matter of note, the principal was forced to resign due to pressure from both parents and teachers. Not necessarily for this incident, but as one teacher stated for "catastrophic incompetence". It also resulted in the Superintendent retiring early as the Principal was her hand picked choice (happened to be a friend of hers).
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My buddy said the pay to play at some districts was gnarly and not good and he got out after one year and went back to teaching. If you like to play around, then you will get paid but you have to pay with your morals. Once you get bought or bribed and fall into sin, you will be blackmailed with doing as your told or I will make your life a living hell. Dirty tricks because you played dirty. This had to happen for everyone to see with their eyes. Let's see who the real hold outs will be. I see you slowly coming down off the fence bro. I am proud of you. The kids will get you down all the way. Go as slow as you need to go but get off that fence :)
 
what-happened said:
perfect - but the article referred was by a doctor and a sitting senator. Hardly a trustworthy combination.
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why do kids need to be vaccinated? is there old science that shows they need it?
The politician Dr. Pan and his team came to two conclusions...kids don't die from covid and the state can't afford to lose any more students in public education....just think if even 5% of kids leave public school how much money that really is at $12,500 per student for one year with about 5.8 million students....that's a lot of money
 
soccersc said:
why do kids need to be vaccinated? is there old science that shows they need it?
The politician Dr. Pan and his team came to two conclusions...kids don't die from covid and the state can't afford to lose any more students in public education....just think if even 5% of kids leave public school how much money that really is at $12,500 per student for one year with about 5.8 million students....that's a lot of money
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Talks of layoffs are buzzing where my buddy works. He's also looking at a deal that will allow him to retire early and move to Naples, Fl. He told me he;s concerned about his retirement promises so he's going to live as if the money is half of what they promised.
 
soccersc said:
why do kids need to be vaccinated? is there old science that shows they need it?
The politician Dr. Pan and his team came to two conclusions...kids don't die from covid and the state can't afford to lose any more students in public education....just think if even 5% of kids leave public school how much money that really is at $12,500 per student for one year with about 5.8 million students....that's a lot of money
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CDC data shows that kids between 5-14 have had a total of 312 deaths since this began.

They have no risk.

30 and under have had a total of about 7k deaths since the beginning of this. Young people have no risk.
 
Desert Hound said:
CDC data shows that kids between 5-14 have had a total of 312 deaths since this began.

They have no risk.

30 and under have had a total of about 7k deaths since the beginning of this. Young people have no risk.
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Round and a round we go. Dad will say your wrong and mask saved everyone. I told everyone their after the kids. Btw, thoughts on Naples, Fl? Anyone else know about this place?
 
Whatever you say about Mr. Trump, he keeps standing. I never thought much of him until my wife said he was going to win the night before the 2016 election. I laughed at her. I was not into politics at all. I watched some Fox and some CNN and was really into sports and watching my dd and ds play youth sports. I worked from home. All I can say is someone or some force is helping t through some serious shit. He's been attacked and accused more then anyone I have ever known. Torched by the Media, Hollywood, Husker Du, Espola and so many others every day.

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Looks like the little snakes brought out the "poison pill" to block old Mr. Musk from controlling communications in our country. Do you all think the Military has no idea what's going on with all censorship of free speech and firing folks for not getting jabbed in this country and those who sold their souls and our country out for the almighty dollar? Up to $100,000 for a patient who dies of covid in some of the hospitals. That's insane!!! How about $100,000 bonus if someone walks out of the hospital healed and doing better? Insane brothers & sisters. We need to see the TRUTH and never let this happen again. I love you all :)
 
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Thank God some States make it illegal to kill baby after 15 weeks. Florida is kicking ass. Not perfect but they do care about life and those who said no to the jab. Please pray for my family you guys and I will pray for all of yours. My in laws were told today they cannot live on their own and 100% keys have been taken away. Were looking at Florida to help them both until they transition to full care. I had other plans when I turned 55 but sometimes you have to to help those who helped you. No way I turn my back on my in laws. I will deny myself and help them. I can;t help them in this State.
 
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