Based on his comments, his reasons appear to be mostly entitlement and reparational, aka transgenders have been mistreated for years so they're entitled to compete at the highest level of women's sports. It's just a silly race, so what if biological men have an advantage? In his mind its payback for the mistreatment,. Of course, he conveniently uses the silly little race rationalization only to support his position and can't recognize it also contradicts his opinion. Self awareness is not his strong suit.
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thirteenknots
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A. You have your head buried in the sand regarding the TRUTH.
or
B. You just enjoy hurling insults as you look beyond the TRUTH.
It's CHEATING pure and simple.
Face the facts.
Here's what would be fair to ALL.
For Thomas to compete with the men and
rescind all of the awards and winnings achieved
while competing against the women.
THAT WOULD BE FAIR !
thirteenknots
SILVER ELITE
Studies of running, rowing, speed skating, and swimming races
have shown that human males are on average 11 percent faster
than women.
The TRUTH.
have shown that human males are on average 11 percent faster
than women.
The TRUTH.
met61
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...again, we both know this is not what I asked...my question was clear and straightforward...and is posted above for you and all to see.
...failing to answer this for a second time, is actually an answer in itself...my mistake was thinking you were above this simple minded approach.
...I now suspect you will feign frustration with my pointing out your obvious dodging of the question...and provide another simpleton response...or ignore this post and not respond at all... either way, it says more about you and confirms my key points regarding the Truth.
met61
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...who determines what the highest competitive level is? And for girls competitive soccer...where do you recommend the line being drawn: ECNL, ECRL, GA, DPL, SOCAL DISCOVERY, FLIGHT 1, 2, 3..., SDDA, Presidio, Rec?
...why do many sports require a birth certificate? If you're willing to compromise the Truth regarding sex on a birth certificate, are you willing to compromise the birth date on a birth certificate?
...Truth does not require a balancing act.
Keepermom2
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"Meanwhile, Olympic gold medalist Caitlyn Jenner, when asked about the success of trans swimmer Lia Thomas, has spoken out against transgender athletes born biological males participating in women's sports."She was born a biological boy," Jenner pointed out. "She was raised as a biological boy. Her cardiovascular system is bigger, her respiratory system is bigger, her hands are bigger, she can swim faster. That’s a known.""
According to one person's definition I read earlier in this thread...Caitlyn Jenner is Transphobic.
According to one person's definition I read earlier in this thread...Caitlyn Jenner is Transphobic.
GoldenGate
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All caps with the transphobic gender pronoun usage. You must be serious.
GoldenGate
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I've explained my reasoning many times, which is also available quite readily online from the NCAA and IOC. You keep saying it is a "balancing act" but you want no balancing at all. Rather, you want trans women categorically excluded from NCAA women's sports because you think "equality" is something that comes a la carte. Well, the NCAA, IOC and I believe differently. In fact, your buddy met61 and all your friends who can't accept that it is grammatically proper for someone to choose the gender pronoun of their choice drive that home pretty well.
"We" didn't create anything. The NCAA and IOC both created sports "divisions" that allow participation by transgender athletes provided they meet certain eligibility requirements. There is no "wrong" biological sex division of sports. The NCAA decides who can participate, and that includes trans women provided they meet certain requirements. If your daughter isn't good enough to participate with and against against trans women who meet the participation requirements, you should take them somewhere else. I hear Iran doesn't like trans people either, but your kid might need to wear a hijab.
GoldenGate
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Good thing trans women can't participate in NCAA women's sports without hormone suppression. So how close to 0% should we get to make up for all the harassment and discrimination they suffer in life at the hands of people like you?
And btw, why are you so upset that today's English gender pronoun rules allow people to use their preferred gender pronoun, given how much you actually butcher English grammar every day?
Pro Sports, National teams, College varsity, youth national team, etc. The details, needs to be worked out on a local level.
I understand what you are saying regarding the birth certificate/sex/age. The birth certificate does not need defending, it's just a piece of paper we use for identification purposes. Due to the high risk of suicide and emotional issues during adolescents, it's better for our society to allow trans kids to play sports with girls if it helps them overcome their emotional issues and suicidal thoughts. My thought is it doesn't hurt anyone, but it can help someone.
GoldenGate
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OMG, someone was deprived the opportunity to come in last?!? Is this like that CT HS Karen who was also deprived the opportunity to come in last so she filed a lawsuit that she also lost? That is a lot of losing for one race.
GoldenGate
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So trans kids should not be allowed to participate in rec sports because you're such a shitty dad that you waited too long to sign your kids up? So I take it you also believe trans kids should not be allowed to buy lipstick or dresses because stores might run out for the "real" girls? Do you also think they shouldn't be able to buy anything from a religious freak whose snowflakey sensibilities are offended by their mere existence?
The "We" is "Our Society". NCAA and IOC, they are acronyms for a subset of "We" that are empowered to make those decisions by the rest of society. NCAA and IOC did do a balancing act when they made the first rules, then they realized it wasn't the right balanced and changed it, and they've changed it more than once. They'll continue to make changes as more information regarding the transgender athletic performances and impact on women sports is played out.
I did my best to answer what I thought was your question. Instead of trying to make yourself more clear, you choose to become abusive, repeatedly.
GFY.
GoldenGate
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More b.s. Caitlyn Jenner here is just stating an opinion about how he feels the cons outweigh the pros. I don't see her calling Lia Thomas "he". I don't see her making ridiculous arguments that a 19th century dictionary is the sports rule book. I don't see her making another ridiculous argument that it is unsafe for trans women to participate in women's sports. I don't see her claiming anything homophobic. I just disagree with her assessment of the pros and cons. What is transphobic, however, is someone like you trying to use Caitlyn Jenner as a cover for your transphobia. Your daughter isn't even going to play college soccer, right? If so, you don't have anything to worry about unless you're in that crowd that also wants them out of rec sports like intramurals.
Can we all please stay on topic per the thread? This is 100% about the Jab and all of our futures together as one. Dr. F is back in the news.
Fauci: Americans should be prepared for new COVID-19 restrictions
BA.2 omicron sub-variant currently accounts for more than half of US cases
"I don't want to use the word ‘lockdowns.’ That has a charged element to it ((you think?)). But, I believe that we must keep our eye on the pattern of what we're seeing with infections," he said, noting that the U.S. is currently moving toward normalcy. ((Except for my nephew and 5 other humans I know who have died and 5 who got clots in their blood)).
"Having said that, we need to be prepared for the possibility ((Don't get comfortable folks)) that we would have another variant that would come along," Fauci noted. "And then, if things change and we do get a variant that does give us an uptick in cases and hospitalization, we should be prepared and flexible enough to pivot toward going back – at least temporarily – to a more rigid type of restrictions, such as requiring masks indoor." ((or get fired for saying no to the jab))
Fauci: Americans should be prepared for new COVID-19 restrictions
BA.2 omicron sub-variant currently accounts for more than half of US cases
"I don't want to use the word ‘lockdowns.’ That has a charged element to it ((you think?)). But, I believe that we must keep our eye on the pattern of what we're seeing with infections," he said, noting that the U.S. is currently moving toward normalcy. ((Except for my nephew and 5 other humans I know who have died and 5 who got clots in their blood)).
"Having said that, we need to be prepared for the possibility ((Don't get comfortable folks)) that we would have another variant that would come along," Fauci noted. "And then, if things change and we do get a variant that does give us an uptick in cases and hospitalization, we should be prepared and flexible enough to pivot toward going back – at least temporarily – to a more rigid type of restrictions, such as requiring masks indoor." ((or get fired for saying no to the jab))
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GoldenGate
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I see, so Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is "reparations"? The Americans with Disabilities Act is also "reparations"? When a college determines that the substantial hardships that a minority has overcome in life to succeed makes her a more qualified applicant than a privileged Karen, that is also reparations? Very clever how you have tried to relabel efforts to ensure equality as "reparations".
GoldenGate
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So BYU should be barred from college sports because so many of their student athletes finish college 6-7 years older than a typical college freshman? It's so unfair that they have this competitive advantage, right?
what-happened
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as my hubby would say, your game is weak.