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As I watched the JRE episode with Jordan Peterson, I finally figured out who he reminds me of. He's a friggin modern day Cliff Clavin, "Hey Normy, have you heard about Carl Jung's Buffalo Theory". Anyway, not the reason I'm posting this. I then realized this entire thread is a bunch of Cliff Clavins. I now read all the posts in his voice. Give it a shot. Feel free interjecting "Hey Normy" where it makes sense.
 
NorCalDad said:
As I watched the JRE episode with Jordan Peterson, I finally figured out who he reminds me of. He's a friggin modern day Cliff Clavin, "Hey Normy, have you heard about Carl Jung's Buffalo Theory". Anyway, not the reason I'm posting this. I then realized this entire thread is a bunch of Cliff Clavins. I now read all the posts in his voice. Give it a shot. Feel free interjecting "Hey Normy" where it makes sense.
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Nope. Jordan Peterson is actually one of the great philosophers of our age. He's become increasingly erratic since he went off the drugs, and I readily concede can go way into outer space on some his rants, but he explains (without realizing) even in that pod cast why that is...much like the blue haired creatives, the out of the box thinkers go way out there and not everything they produce is gold....but Peterson (even if he is somewhat diminished by what he's undergone) is truly one of the great thinkers of our age. And I say this as someone who is LGBTQ. Kiddo was enthralled with his psych lecture and listened it on the train journey all through Spain a few years ago.
 
Grace T. said:
Nope. Jordan Peterson is actually one of the great philosophers of our age. He's become increasingly erratic since he went off the drugs, and I readily concede can go way into outer space on some his rants, but he explains (without realizing) even in that pod cast why that is...much like the blue haired creatives, the out of the box thinkers go way out there and not everything they produce is gold....but Peterson (even if he is somewhat diminished by what he's undergone) is truly one of the great thinkers of our age. And I say this as someone who is LGBTQ. Kiddo was enthralled with his psych lecture and listened it on the train journey all through Spain a few years ago.
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Thanks Cliff!

Seriously though, Joe corrected him within the first 10 minutes. He speaks in absolutes...just like Cliff. No thanks.
 
NorCalDad said:
Thanks Cliff!

Seriously though, Joe corrected him within the first 10 minutes. He speaks in absolutes...just like Cliff. No thanks.
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I agree he doesn't do nuance well, but most of the great philosophers don't. Philosophy is a seer stone through which to look at the world...it gives you only one painting of it. If you look at him in the philosophical context, it makes perfect sense.

p.s. cheers relentless mocks classism and lumps people of various classes into this one setting. Clavin is a caricature of a lower class person who could never hope to rise to the station of an intellectual. It contrast with Frasier who is a pompous and elitist windbag. Yet, as Diane points out in her play on Frasier, they are all lost souls who wallow their sorrows and (from what the writer's clearly let us know) pathetic existences (whether a rich barmaid forced to be a barmaid or a washed out baseball player) in drink and fellowship. The thing they all have in common is they are losers.

p.p.s. it's one of the reasons why Cheers stopped working once Diane left beyond the will they or won't they. Kirstie Ali's character was just blatantly contemptuous (at least at first) of the bar residents. The quiet part began to be said out loud and it didn't work.

p.p.p.s a better mocking of me would be Frasier. Indeed, my two brothers were known as the "Crane boys" back in law school
 
Grace T. said:
I agree he doesn't do nuance well, but most of the great philosophers don't. Philosophy is a seer stone through which to look at the world...it gives you only one painting of it. If you look at him in the philosophical context, it makes perfect sense.

p.s. cheers relentless mocks classism and lumps people of various classes into this one setting. Clavin is a caricature of a lower class person who could never hope to rise to the station of an intellectual. It contrast with Frasier who is a pompous and elitist windbag. Yet, as Diane points out in her play on Frasier, they are all lost souls who wallow their sorrows and (from what the writer's clearly let us know) pathetic existences (whether a rich barmaid forced to be a barmaid or a washed out baseball player) in drink and fellowship. The thing they all have in common is they are losers.

p.p.s. it's one of the reasons why Cheers stopped working once Diane left beyond the will they or won't they. Kirstie Ali's character was just blatantly contemptuous (at least at first) of the bar residents. The quiet part began to be said out loud and it didn't work.

p.p.p.s a better mocking of me would be Frasier. Indeed, my two brothers were known as the "Crane boys" back in law school
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Cliff did get pretty close to winning Jeopardy though. The Buffalo Theory is pretty solid.

I mean the issue is this, Jordan goes on to say "7 million kids a year die from particulate matter indoors". He said this as if it was set in stone. He's also incredibly believable. Joe had an eyebrow raised most of the interview -- something I don't think many pick up on. Joe is definitely skeptical of many of his guests. In some ways he mocks people like Alex Jones, etc. But anyway, Peterson sounds smart, but I just don't think I'd put him on a pedestal like you do.
 
NorCalDad said:
As I watched the JRE episode with Jordan Peterson, I finally figured out who he reminds me of. He's a friggin modern day Cliff Clavin, "Hey Normy, have you heard about Carl Jung's Buffalo Theory". Anyway, not the reason I'm posting this. I then realized this entire thread is a bunch of Cliff Clavins. I now read all the posts in his voice. Give it a shot. Feel free interjecting "Hey Normy" where it makes sense.
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This is how you spend your time... Brilliant!
 
NorCalDad said:
Cliff did get pretty close to winning Jeopardy though. The Buffalo Theory is pretty solid.

I mean the issue is this, Jordan goes on to say "7 million kids a year die from particulate matter indoors". He said this as if it was set in stone. He's also incredibly believable. Joe had an eyebrow raised most of the interview -- something I don't think many pick up on. Joe is definitely skeptical of many of his guests. In some ways he mocks people like Alex Jones, etc. But anyway, Peterson sounds smart, but I just don't think I'd put him on a pedestal like you do.
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I'd only do so for the limited purposes as a philosopher. As a political activist he's not so great (and he even tells Ben Shapiro as much in their one on one). And he has been diminished by what he went through. Rogan is not a deep philosopher. He's more meat and potatoes. He is Peterson's opposite and it's a credit to Rogan that he didn't spend the entire time rolling his eyes.
 
met61 said:
They always do what they accuse others of doing...funny how that works.
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Keep it coming. You're like a mini Jordan Peterson with your insightful and useful comments. Perhaps you too are one of the great thinkers of our time. Let it out, don't block us from hearing all your great thoughts and ideas.
 
NorCalDad said:
Keep it coming. You're like a mini Jordan Peterson with your insightful and useful comments. Perhaps you too are one of the great thinkers of our time. Let it out, don't block us from hearing all your great thoughts and ideas.
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Take a breath then a walk... it's nice in Cali today.
 
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