Vaccine

A lot of work to be done in this area with hopefully more studies to come. Moderna has a higher incidence. Canada (and others) has been smart about spacing out 1st and 2nd dose, which likely helps in mitigating risk of myocarditis. There is risk of myocarditis with natural infection but incidences have been rather low and mild , just like every year with viral infections. Something about MRNA that makes this a bit different - it'swhy studies are needed and parents need to carefully assess risk/benefit.

IF you want to vaccinate your U18 boy child, highly recommend spacing out the doses - forget to come back for the second appt.... Likely no need for boosters, especially for college aged kids. Ramping antibodies for the sake of ramping up is rather foolish. it's as if some people have forgotten about the other, more important aspects of our immune system.

Thank you Dr. Cliff Clavin. I have this soreness in my knee, what are your thoughts on that? Would love to get your prognosis.
 
Thank you Dr. Cliff Clavin. I have this soreness in my knee, what are your thoughts on that? Would love to get your prognosis.
You made me laugh NoCal. That was great, thanks :) I guess we all have to be our own Docs now. Ain't no one to trust these days. I know two well respected Doctors. Like, real doctors with degrees bro. One says don't take the shot mixed with shit from Gates and Dr. Fraud and the other one say's it will save you from the hospital. How the hell am I supposed figure this all out dude? Joe is protecting Ukraine but not us? This is insane!!! WTF is going on in Ukraine bro? 100,000 Russians at the boarder. Is Vlad finally going to take of advantage of Joe? This takes ground hog day to another level. I have friend whose son might have to go protect Hunter & Joe's dealings from the past in the Ukraine.
 
Thank you Dr. Cliff Clavin. I have this soreness in my knee, what are your thoughts on that? Would love to get your prognosis.
Experts have been wrong or late more than a few times on COVID. The advice given was really a rather small deviation from the recommendation. How many times does #science have to change on COVID before you realize it may be wise to do your research and think for yourself on this?

Knee pain has been around for a long. You can probably trust the experts but it wouldn't hurt to do a little research. Be careful with that knee though if you ever have to jump off your horse. It's high.
 
Experts have been wrong or late more than a few times on COVID. The advice given was really a rather small deviation from the recommendation. How many times does #science have to change on COVID before you realize it may be wise to do your research and think for yourself on this?

Knee pain has been around for a long. You can probably trust the experts but it wouldn't hurt to do a little research. Be careful with that knee though if you ever have to jump off your horse. It's high.

Actually no joke on the orthopedic surgeons. They're a little over eager to use the knife. I always get a second opinion with those guys.
 
Experts have been wrong or late more than a few times on COVID. The advice given was really a rather small deviation from the recommendation. How many times does #science have to change on COVID before you realize it may be wise to do your research and think for yourself on this?

Knee pain has been around for a long. You can probably trust the experts but it wouldn't hurt to do a little research. Be careful with that knee though if you ever have to jump off your horse. It's high.
Back Doctors are gnarly too. I had a quack Doc out in Riverside years ago that was trying to convince me to do disk replacement surgery on L5 and L4. He took some MRI thing and then brought me into his fear office. First thing he said was, "Dam sir, were you in a car accident?" I said, "no." I just have the most insane lower back pain ever and why? I couldnt walk at times and would lay in bed for days. He gave me some pills for the pain and those were amazing. Like real amazing and got me out of bed and happy all in one :) Anyway, dude got me hooked for a year or so and then told me no more pills unless I get surgery. He said the pills are just to get you "ready" for anything I tell you do. I took a hard look at this dude and asked for references. I got 5. I met two and both felt better after the new fusions. However, they were both hooked on Morphine and Opioids and never quit that shit. I told Doc, "no" on the $100,000 back surgery and he told me no more pills. The dude was a liar and got arrested later for putting fake screws in peoples back. They started to rust on a few of his patients and he went to jail or lost his licensee or both. I dodged a witch doctor. Be careful you guys. Doc is not always on your side :)
 
What are you thoughts on this? Evolving science maybe. Is it earth shattering that anyone over the age of 65 may require additional protection from a virus that's been hard to figure out.
Or that for certain people (the very young) a first booster even may not be warranted....

 
Or that for certain people (the very young) a first booster even may not be warranted....
It isn't warranted.

860k dead.

Under 17 has had 748 deaths since the beginning of this.

Roughly 70 million people make up that age range.

The actual data shows there is no risk to this age group.
 
It isn't warranted.

860k dead.

Under 17 has had 748 deaths since the beginning of this.

Roughly 70 million people make up that age range.

The actual data shows there is no risk to this age group.
What you’re doing is repeating the same straw man every week: Pretend the other side is primarily talking about deaths among those under 17, and disprove your own point.

Well done. Hound’s left sock puppet has clearly demolished Hound’s right sock puppet. Give yourself a high five.

If you want to say there is no need to vaccinate those under 17, then address the real issues: give us an argument based on hospitalizations and non-fatal long term effects.
 
It isn't warranted.

860k dead.

Under 17 has had 748 deaths since the beginning of this.

Roughly 70 million people make up that age range.

The actual data shows there is no risk to this age group.
Sweden and norway are taking it a step further not even recommending the vaxx for non risk children.

 
What you’re doing is repeating the same straw man every week: Pretend the other side is primarily talking about deaths among those under 17, and disprove your own point.

Well done. Hound’s left sock puppet has clearly demolished Hound’s right sock puppet. Give yourself a high five.

If you want to say there is no need to vaccinate those under 17, then address the real issues: give us an argument based on hospitalizations and non-fatal long term effects.
The Norweigans and Swedes have already done that for us (at least for the 12 and under).
 
Sweden and norway are taking it a step further not even recommending the vaxx for non risk children.

They love their kids. We use children as pawns. Send our boys to fight evil wars. I will sit and wait for the real TRUTH to come out. Mr. Bubble and Mr. Normal are holding us all back because they want to go back to the way things were. WERE NOT GOING BACK. That was all based on lies. A new way to play is coming Grace T and all lying and cheating will be removed. All Hospitals will close and new Wellness Centers will be open to help heal the souls of the planet. This left brain right brain has caused all the division in our world. Look at the same fools at the forum. When lie and get caught, admit the lie and stop lying.
 
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