Vaccine

As usual, you lean on the high-class education credential despite everyone being able to see the result.

As usual, you miss the point that your attack on Desert Hound made no sense in light of my high-class education credentials (s plural). It places you in the bind of having inadvertently given Hound a compliment (at least from an elitist credentialist point of view) or saying such credentialism doesn't/shouldn't matter. Quite a little box you built for yourself.
 
Why now? Because we now have a large population of patients who test positive but are not medically impacted. Back then, we did not.

I am not convinced there ever was a way to keep your trust. One group was going to tell you that you needed to wear a mask, skip restaurants, and meet only outside. The other group was telling you that it’s all a scam and you can do whatever you like.

No real surprise you preferred group two. The second group was telling you what you wanted to hear.

A better argument than there's no with/for problem would have been if you had argued yes there's been an over count, and yes this was a problem, but that over count was skewed differently in previous waves. For example, one SF ER doc whose tweets I follow currently estimates about 60% of admits are with COVID and 40% are for....in previous waves he estimated 50/50....original wild type during lockdowns 70% for/30% with (which would make sense because in lockdown hospitals were turning away non emergency cases). But just like the cloth masks, you can't help letting in just a little bit of daylight for fear it will tumble down the entire edifice of faith. You are like my religion teacher that I wrote about who lost it on the "if God created adam and eve, and Caine and Abel married, where did their wives come from" question.
 
Why now? Because we now have a large population of patients who test positive but are not medically impacted. Back then, we did not.
And? It would have proved their point if they all were in because of COVID. I'm not arguing it isn't different now but any math person worth a damn understands that changing how data is collected also ruins any possibility of comparing the data across time. If it's a good idea now, it was a good idea then.

I am not convinced there ever was a way to keep your trust. One group was going to tell you that you needed to wear a mask, skip restaurants, and meet only outside. The other group was telling you that it’s all a scam and you can do whatever you like.
This is funny. I still wear a mask and continue to observe all local mandates wherever I happen to be. My trust isn't something anyone needs to worry about as far as COVID goes beyond how I vote. However, there are others out there as angry or angrier than you are. Our leaders didn't do a good job of keeping their trust.
 
“I write this email knowing that many of you will think I’m crazy after reading it,” Bateman wrote in an email sent out early Tuesday morning. “I believe there is a sadistic effort underway to euthanize the American people. It’s obvious now. It’s undeniable, yet no one is doing anything. Everyone is discounting their own judgement and dismissing their intuition.

“I believe the Jews are behind this.”


So now we have that to worry about.
 
“I write this email knowing that many of you will think I’m crazy after reading it,” Bateman wrote in an email sent out early Tuesday morning. “I believe there is a sadistic effort underway to euthanize the American people. It’s obvious now. It’s undeniable, yet no one is doing anything. Everyone is discounting their own judgement and dismissing their intuition.

“I believe the Jews are behind this.”


So now we have that to worry about.
I think we would all agree that that is "bat shit" crazy type stuff, and wildly inappropriate.
 
You are missing the point. It would have been as easy initially to make the distinction between being hospitalized with COVID or being hospitalized because of COVID. Why now? This isn't how trust is built but that ship has likely already sailed.
Trust has certainly left the station. COVID designation also = $$$$. $13K per per person admitted with covid, $39K per ventilator. Now, likley not a ton of money was made (contrast that to the $$$ being poured down the pharma drain). This could have easily caused the disease to appear deadlier than it actually is/was. And yes, it's still a tragedy, but numbers mean something and painting it on the high side is not good.
 
Trust has certainly left the station. COVID designation also = $$$$. $13K per per person admitted with covid, $39K per ventilator. Now, likley not a ton of money was made (contrast that to the $$$ being poured down the pharma drain). This could have easily caused the disease to appear deadlier than it actually is/was. And yes, it's still a tragedy, but numbers mean something and painting it on the high side is not good.

Hospitals are required to keep patients with covid isolated from the general population, and additional PPE is required for those attending such patients. That means extra costs.
 
As usual, you miss the point that your attack on Desert Hound made no sense in light of my high-class education credentials (s plural). It places you in the bind of having inadvertently given Hound a compliment (at least from an elitist credentialist point of view) or saying such credentialism doesn't/shouldn't matter. Quite a little box you built for yourself.

And Aaron Rodgers has 2 years of education from Cal. Sometimes you just can't tell how an alumnus is going to work out.
 
Hospitals are required to keep patients with covid isolated from the general population, and additional PPE is required for those attending such patients. That means extra costs.
Yes, you are 100% correct. It costs more to treat a covid patient. Don't think that hospitals didn't take advantage of the system. Hospitalists also run P&Ls. This was an easy one to take advantage of, and they did. Like I stated above, not a ton of money made but painted a picture that was likely innacurate but narrative approved.
 
It's almost as though there is some kind of difference between today's covid and the original covid.

You know, like maybe one version has a lower case spike and more severe symptoms.

But the other had a very high case spike but relatively mild symptoms.

If that were true, the later version would create enough mildly symptomatic cases to mess with the data, even though the first did not.

The really should look into that. Maybe give each version it's own name so dumbfucks don't get them confused.
Hard to argue with that . . . but then again, some must persist.
 
And Aaron Rodgers has 2 years of education from Cal. Sometimes you just can't tell how an alumnus is going to work out.
Weak...your answer to the box is an anecdote (which you don't tend to like) and a weak one, 2 years football player who didn't even finish.
 
Yes, you are 100% correct. It costs more to treat a covid patient. Don't think that hospitals didn't take advantage of the system. Hospitalists also run P&Ls. This was an easy one to take advantage of, and they did. Like I stated above, not a ton of money made but painted a picture that was likely innacurate but narrative approved.
“Hospitalists”?
 
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