Vaccine

watfly said:
Our pet name for you Dad4, Espola, Husker, GoldenGate etc. Actually that's unfair to you, GG is a Covidiot.

Whereas Dad4's pet name for me, GraceT, Desert Hound, Kickingandscreaming etc is Team Virus.
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It's a larger memo too, not just our forum
 
espola said:
What merited "lash out"?

I didn't say it wasn't the most effective approach. Those are your words.
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feel free to characterize your own response. I'll take you at you word. It was a winner, though....a rare but thoughtful and inciteful idea....careful about dragging it into the L column.
 
Grace T. said:
hey I give you credit where credit is due. A rare inciteful idea for one brief, shining moment, then you go on a small roll, now you are back to your old self. You were saying about old habits dying hard?
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The entire post to which that was written in response was just your lies and fantasies.
 
espola said:
The entire post to which that was written in response was just your lies and fantasies.
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going full troll again, huh?

"oh Magoo, you've done it again!"

Not an ad, BTW, because I'm critiquing your response to my response and not your character (Magoo was a loveable character, beloved by all, only with a tendency to lose his way, an inability to see it, and a stubborn refusal to do what it would take to correct it)
 
espola said:
What happened to "Team Panic"?
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I believe it initially was Team Buzzkill, then Team Chicken Little, I don't recall using Team Panic but I could have. It's just evolution and Covidian sounds more cult-like.

To me a Covidian is generally someone that exaggerates the risk of Covid in an attempt to rationalize mandates and restrictions. Particularly when it comes to placing a disproportionate burden for Covid policies on our children. Most are Covid myopic and incapable of considering a cost/benefit analysis. It is not uncommon for Covidians to be dependent on the government or unions. Diverse in their intellect, Covidians can have an IQ anywhere between 50 to 250; however, they tend to lack "street smarts". They usually prefer an expert's opinion over actual results. Their perspective is often driven by fear and/or a sense of superiority.
 
Grace T. said:
that explains it. You didn't read the article. The point is addressed in the article.
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If have time tonight I'll check it out. Maybe. I suspect my point will not be. Which is fine. But the last of your links I clicked on had some guy come on and start talking about sleeping on a couch.
 
watfly said:
I believe it initially was Team Buzzkill, then Team Chicken Little, I don't recall using Team Panic but I could have. It's just evolution and Covidian sounds more cult-like.

To me a Covidian is generally someone that exaggerates the risk of Covid in an attempt to rationalize mandates and restrictions. Particularly when it comes to placing a disproportionate burden for Covid policies on our children. Most are Covid myopic and incapable of considering a cost/benefit analysis. It is not uncommon for Covidians to be dependent on the government or unions. Diverse in their intellect, Covidians can have an IQ anywhere between 50 to 250; however, they tend to lack "street smarts". They usually prefer an expert's opinion over actual results. Their perspective is often driven by fear and/or a sense of superiority.
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Do you think Grace agrees with that definition?
 
watfly said:
Unlike youth soccer we have a limit on the number of superlatives that you can use in a title. May I recommend Team Alpha Wolf?

Now if I were to name you it would be Team Your Posts Go Over My Head
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Younger kid starting to age out of pixar, so been a bit, but as I recall team alpha wolf squadron was the cross dressing wolf's initial suggestion in Shrek some number. Which got expanded in the end because of.....concensus.
 
Grace T. said:
this is, again, basic economics 202. Micro is, as i told you in a post before, an incidence count....infection to infection....or if you prefer to it dummy to dummy at a particular measure of time. Macro is anything that scales it. the more you scale it, the bigger the scaling problem. So, for example, let's say you have a group of 10 friends and you all decide that you are going to be very COVID careful: everyone vaxxed, everyone wears an N95, no one goes out if they feel sick, no one goes to indoor dining, everyone is real careful. You know these 10 friends and know they feel the same about COVID as you, and so you feel pretty safe being around them, even with your 5 year old unvaxxed kid, since you know none of you send your 5 year olds to daycare, let alone wander around in indoor public settings unmasked. Pretty safe, right? Scale it up to your local small church group of 100 people..... you know and trust those people and they have a similar outlook to you, but maybe one of them works as a plumber and another has a kid working the lunch shift at mcdonalds. Scale it up to your neighborhood with people who look like you, vote like you and feel the same about COVID as you do. Scale it up to to your city. Transfer it to another city in a red state. Transfer it to Japan (hence your preferred solution we all become Asian).
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Your interpretation of the scaling problem would imply that calculus, and anything built on calculus, will never work. It all relies on adding very large numbers of very small things. Yet we design airplanes using this reasoning, and they don’t seem to fall out of the sky. The world is more complicated than “scaling always makes it less effective.”

In this case, some of the scaling issues help you. There are very large positive externalities: If I don’t get infected, I also do not transmit. Positive externalities make scaling easier. As you get larger, a higher percentage of the positive interactions feed back into your system. In your example, less than half of my interactions are with my ten closest friends. Most of the positive externalities escape. But, for a man my age in Tokyo, almost 100% of his contacts are with other Japanese citizens. Almost none of the positive externalities escape.

The result is that a scaled system can be considerably more effective than a small one.
 
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